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jrothenb Jun 22, 2009 9:49 pm

Seems so sudden. I've always felt uncomfortable about this program but bit the bullet and signed on to save time. It certainly did help sometimes. However, I do not like that we had to give all of our personal information to this company. Shady.

Galla47 Jun 22, 2009 9:52 pm

Clear to Cease Operations
 
Just got this note from Clear:

At 11:00 p.m. PST today, Clear will cease operations. Clear's parent company, Verified Identity Pass, Inc. has been unable to negotiate an agreement with its senior creditor to continue operations.
After today, Clear lanes will be unavailable.

I hope people are going to get their money back.

Echo Jun 22, 2009 9:54 pm

I was a big fan of Clear. Definitely very sad to see this news. It saved my hide at least a few times when I was cutting a flight very close.

DLATL777 Jun 22, 2009 9:57 pm

Walked past a group of Clear sales personnel in JFK today and let them know their company had just ceased operations. They laughed at first cause they thought I was joking, then stopped slowly, realizing I was being serious.

TravellingMan Jun 22, 2009 9:58 pm


Originally Posted by jrothenb (Post 11952730)
However, I do not like that we had to give all of our personal information to this company. Shady.

Curious. What information did you have to give that company? Did it include fingerprints?

chanp Jun 22, 2009 10:03 pm

Didnt get a chance to use it, but sucks for all that lost $ on it.

Ocn Vw 1K Jun 22, 2009 10:21 pm

Please follow in our Travel Safety/Security forum. Ocn Vw 1K, Moderator, TravelBuzz.

aviators99 Jun 22, 2009 10:22 pm


Originally Posted by TravellingMan (Post 11952769)
Curious. What information did you have to give that company? Did it include fingerprints?

Yes.

Echo Jun 22, 2009 10:25 pm


Originally Posted by Herb687 (Post 11951244)
Confirms my suspicions about why turning over lots of personal data to a private company was a bad idea all along.

Yep. It sure is obvious now that they've sold all that info to third parties and stolen everyone's identities. Oh, wait, that didn't happen.

Self_Loading_Ballast Jun 22, 2009 10:30 pm

Good riddance to the Clear lanes. Not because they weren't time-savers, but BECAUSE they were.

The absurdist theater that is the TSA won't change without sustained pressure from those in positions of influence. Anything that insulates those influential elites from the pain and frustration of TSA's boorishly incompetent 'service' will only slow the pace of change.

To use a fitting analogy, given how the TSA treats travelers: think of how much more humane and well managed our prison system would be if members of the influential class had the same incarceration rate as the underclass.

Spiff Jun 22, 2009 10:33 pm

Gee, all Clear enrollees' personal data will be destroyed... when?

TravellingMan Jun 22, 2009 10:36 pm


Originally Posted by aviators99 (Post 11952867)
Yes.

That is tough. Hope you can follow up and get it erased...

BillScann Jun 22, 2009 10:42 pm

FOR SALE: Clear Pax Private Data & Biometrics
 
While it is doubtful that failed publisher and privacy rapist Steve Brill will be taking-out a Craigslist ad with the above headline, it is only a matter of time before all of the personal data provided by a few deluded rubes to Clear is sold (and resold, and resold) off to whomever is willing to pay for the information.

You can change a lot of things if your identity is exploited: fingerprints are not on that list.

So, who will buy the data? Axciom? ChoicePoint? Scientology? Place your bets!

unavaca Jun 22, 2009 10:49 pm

FYI, a list of other registered traveler companies is here... http://www.rtconsortium.org/ApprovedVendors.cfm

SNA_Flyer Jun 22, 2009 10:53 pm

CLEAR was a great idea with good intent, however, they too had to deal with the stupid asshats at TSA HQ too and were bound to fail. If they could have made their members immune from the shoe carnival and liquid paranoia it might have been more successful.

I refused to use them for a variety of reasons, and I'm now even more glad I never gave them a dime or my personal info.


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