Is Global Entry worthwhile?
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So take a blank form and stick it in with your passport for the unlikely but "just in case" moment of the system being down at a GE airport, but there is no requirement to fill that thing out each trip. And btw - if the system was down for some reason, I still expect to cut the line and escape quickly.
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I always carry a partially filled out form in my bag with me. It is just missing the information that can change (e.g. flight number) but has all the rest (name, passport number etc.) filled in. I was also told during my interview to have a form in case the machines don't work. They did tell me about line cutting in this case as well. Never had the situation yet.
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So take a blank form and stick it in with your passport for the unlikely but "just in case" moment of the system being down at a GE airport, but there is no requirement to fill that thing out each trip. And btw - if the system was down for some reason, I still expect to cut the line and escape quickly.
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Curious about what Homeland Security considers as 'place of residence' when filling in a Global Entry application.
I was on a work assignment in Asia for most of 2009. But was "living" in an apart-hotel that was paid for directly by my company. I still maintained my residence in the US, and was paid in US dollars direct-deposited into my US bank account.
Will having 3 and 6 month stays in Asia stamped into my passport raise eyebrows if I don't list it as a place of residence in my application?
I was on a work assignment in Asia for most of 2009. But was "living" in an apart-hotel that was paid for directly by my company. I still maintained my residence in the US, and was paid in US dollars direct-deposited into my US bank account.
Will having 3 and 6 month stays in Asia stamped into my passport raise eyebrows if I don't list it as a place of residence in my application?
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Curious about what Homeland Security considers as 'place of residence' when filling in a Global Entry application.
I was on a work assignment in Asia for most of 2009. But was "living" in an apart-hotel that was paid for directly by my company. I still maintained my residence in the US, and was paid in US dollars direct-deposited into my US bank account.
Will having 3 and 6 month stays in Asia stamped into my passport raise eyebrows if I don't list it as a place of residence in my application?
I was on a work assignment in Asia for most of 2009. But was "living" in an apart-hotel that was paid for directly by my company. I still maintained my residence in the US, and was paid in US dollars direct-deposited into my US bank account.
Will having 3 and 6 month stays in Asia stamped into my passport raise eyebrows if I don't list it as a place of residence in my application?
1) Do you have permanent residence status in another country?
2) Where are you registered to vote?
3) What state do you have your drivers license from?
and
4) What address do you use when filling out your taxes?
will help to shape the answer to where you are a resident in the eyes of the CBP.
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Just used it for the first time at IAD. Went very smoothly. Minutes to go from gate to connection security. Lines were short and I was still probably the first through from my flight.
Just used it for the first time at IAD. Went very smoothly. Minutes to go from gate to connection security. Lines were short and I was still probably the first through from my flight.
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Curious about what Homeland Security considers as 'place of residence' when filling in a Global Entry application.
I was on a work assignment in Asia for most of 2009. But was "living" in an apart-hotel that was paid for directly by my company. I still maintained my residence in the US, and was paid in US dollars direct-deposited into my US bank account.
Will having 3 and 6 month stays in Asia stamped into my passport raise eyebrows if I don't list it as a place of residence in my application?
I was on a work assignment in Asia for most of 2009. But was "living" in an apart-hotel that was paid for directly by my company. I still maintained my residence in the US, and was paid in US dollars direct-deposited into my US bank account.
Will having 3 and 6 month stays in Asia stamped into my passport raise eyebrows if I don't list it as a place of residence in my application?
If you were a non-immigrant, then you aren't a resident of that country.
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Edit to add: Looking at the Enrollment screen..it asks "If you have lived at your current address for less than five years, you must provide details on all of your addresses going back 5 years." I'll guess I'll stick with the premise my legal residence being where I "lived" and anywhere else simply being places I "stayed".
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I was there on a non-immigrant work visa...and maintained voter registration, drivers license, taxes, mortgage, etc here in the US while I was there. I just wanted to make sure they were talking about "legal residence" vs. where you laid your head on the pillow since I was there on long stays.
Edit to add: Looking at the Enrollment screen..it asks "If you have lived at your current address for less than five years, you must provide details on all of your addresses going back 5 years." I'll guess I'll stick with the premise my legal residence being where I "lived" and anywhere else simply being places I "stayed".
Edit to add: Looking at the Enrollment screen..it asks "If you have lived at your current address for less than five years, you must provide details on all of your addresses going back 5 years." I'll guess I'll stick with the premise my legal residence being where I "lived" and anywhere else simply being places I "stayed".
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Perhaps a contradiciton in the "food department" as I understand it now the question asked at the kiosk breaks down the type of food items that must be declared. However, since one is still required to fill out a paper form, just in case, that form does not break down food items, it just shows food, so if one proceeds to the exit with food items permitted, such as candy, crackers etc. with the printed slip with no X and the officer decides to check your luggage and finds this food, and questions why you do not have an X on your printed slip and then you show him the blue form with the food checked, could this not be a small problem? One would have to explain the breakdown of the food items at the kiosk vs no breakdown on the blue form.
However looking back on this thread, it seems people say you must declare ANYTHING that is food? The question I read at the kiosk SPECIFICALLY said which types of foods must be declared - so why would I have to declare something like a granola bar that has nothing listed on the kiosk question?
Or did the kiosk question change in the past year?
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I just used GE for the first time coming into DFW yesterday. I read and re-read the questions regarding food. It asked if I was carrying meat, poultry, food with dairy, but did NOT say that I had to declare ANY food. Only if it contained the ingredients listed. Thus a bag of chips, which did not contain anything listed, to me, did not need to be declared.
However looking back on this thread, it seems people say you must declare ANYTHING that is food? The question I read at the kiosk SPECIFICALLY said which types of foods must be declared - so why would I have to declare something like a granola bar that has nothing listed on the kiosk question?
Or did the kiosk question change in the past year?
The form and the screen got more specific - you did what we've been told with regards to food and should be fine
Originally Posted by armandov9
Perhaps a contradiciton in the "food department" as I understand it now the question asked at the kiosk breaks down the type of food items that must be declared. However, since one is still required to fill out a paper form, just in case, that form does not break down food items, it just shows food, so if one proceeds to the exit with food items permitted, such as candy, crackers etc. with the printed slip with no X and the officer decides to check your luggage and finds this food, and questions why you do not have an X on your printed slip and then you show him the blue form with the food checked, could this not be a small problem? One would have to explain the breakdown of the food items at the kiosk vs no breakdown on the blue form.
However looking back on this thread, it seems people say you must declare ANYTHING that is food? The question I read at the kiosk SPECIFICALLY said which types of foods must be declared - so why would I have to declare something like a granola bar that has nothing listed on the kiosk question?
Or did the kiosk question change in the past year?
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There is talk of extending this to other countries, but I haven't heard anything specific.
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I just used GE for the first time coming into DFW yesterday. I read and re-read the questions regarding food. It asked if I was carrying meat, poultry, food with dairy, but did NOT say that I had to declare ANY food. Only if it contained the ingredients listed. Thus a bag of chips, which did not contain anything listed, to me, did not need to be declared.
However looking back on this thread, it seems people say you must declare ANYTHING that is food? The question I read at the kiosk SPECIFICALLY said which types of foods must be declared - so why would I have to declare something like a granola bar that has nothing listed on the kiosk question?
Or did the kiosk question change in the past year?
However looking back on this thread, it seems people say you must declare ANYTHING that is food? The question I read at the kiosk SPECIFICALLY said which types of foods must be declared - so why would I have to declare something like a granola bar that has nothing listed on the kiosk question?
Or did the kiosk question change in the past year?
You are correct. The kiosk questions have been updated in the past year to ask about specific kinds of food (fruits, veggies, meats, dairy, etc.). BUT, THE PAPER FORM HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED....it still includes the word "FOOD" in addition to the specific items listed. If you were using the PAPER form and would like to obey the law, you would need to check "YES" if you had ANYTHING in your possession that could be consumed as food.
So, I think what you could do is to follow the kiosk first, and say "no" if you have only candies/chocolates/etc. But, if the kiosks are inoperative and you are forced to fill out a paper form, you would have to check "YES" and declare the items even though you know they are permitted under current regulations. Sound good? That way, you are covered in either eventuality.
Of course, the easiest solution is just NOT TO BRING IN ANY FORM OF FOOD, PERIOD! That's what I've decided to do for the time being, until we get a formal clarification on this issue from CBP.
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You are correct. The kiosk questions have been updated in the past year to ask about specific kinds of food (fruits, veggies, meats, dairy, etc.). BUT, THE PAPER FORM HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED....it still includes the word "FOOD" in addition to the specific items listed. If you were using the PAPER form and would like to obey the law, you would need to check "YES" if you had ANYTHING in your possession that could be consumed as food.
So, I think what you could do is to follow the kiosk first, and say "no" if you have only candies/chocolates/etc. But, if the kiosks are inoperative and you are forced to fill out a paper form, you would have to check "YES" and declare the items even though you know they are permitted under current regulations. Sound good? That way, you are covered in either eventuality.
Of course, the easiest solution is just NOT TO BRING IN ANY FORM OF FOOD, PERIOD! That's what I've decided to do for the time being, until we get a formal clarification on this issue from CBP.
So, I think what you could do is to follow the kiosk first, and say "no" if you have only candies/chocolates/etc. But, if the kiosks are inoperative and you are forced to fill out a paper form, you would have to check "YES" and declare the items even though you know they are permitted under current regulations. Sound good? That way, you are covered in either eventuality.
Of course, the easiest solution is just NOT TO BRING IN ANY FORM OF FOOD, PERIOD! That's what I've decided to do for the time being, until we get a formal clarification on this issue from CBP.

