Is Global Entry worthwhile?
#2326

Join Date: Oct 2009
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Retina scan
Can someone help me answer this
I signed up (and was approved) for Nexus and GE, I had my interview at the Detroit bridge crossing.
They didn't have a retina scanner there, and he mentioned something that I needed to have a retina scan before using GE. Does that sound right?
When I look at the documentation for using GE, it seems like it's just a scan of the passport and fingerprints on the machine, no retina scan.
Any ideas?
I signed up (and was approved) for Nexus and GE, I had my interview at the Detroit bridge crossing.
They didn't have a retina scanner there, and he mentioned something that I needed to have a retina scan before using GE. Does that sound right?
When I look at the documentation for using GE, it seems like it's just a scan of the passport and fingerprints on the machine, no retina scan.
Any ideas?
#2327
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Can someone help me answer this
I signed up (and was approved) for Nexus and GE, I had my interview at the Detroit bridge crossing.
They didn't have a retina scanner there, and he mentioned something that I needed to have a retina scan before using GE. Does that sound right?
When I look at the documentation for using GE, it seems like it's just a scan of the passport and fingerprints on the machine, no retina scan.
Any ideas?
I signed up (and was approved) for Nexus and GE, I had my interview at the Detroit bridge crossing.
They didn't have a retina scanner there, and he mentioned something that I needed to have a retina scan before using GE. Does that sound right?
When I look at the documentation for using GE, it seems like it's just a scan of the passport and fingerprints on the machine, no retina scan.
Any ideas?
That doesn't sound right. GE uses digital fingerprints, not the iris scan. The iris scan is used for NEXUS Air only (the NEXUS kiosks at select major Canadian airports for entering Canada and the USA).
When you had your interview at the Detroit location, was there a CBP officer who interviewed and took your digital fingerprints? If so, and as long as GOES says "approved" for GlobalEntry, then you should be able to use GlobalEntry kiosks to enter the USA.
Then, the next time you find yourself at one of the major Canadian airports, simply stop by a NEXUS Enrolment Centre to have your irises scanned, so that you can use the NEXUS kiosks as well.
#2328
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: YQR
Programs: NEXUS; alas, no status anymore.
Posts: 1,181
You can do the iris scans at Canada Customs facilities at many land border crossings, too. I did mine at Fort Erie, ON (opposite Buffalo, NY). I expect they can do them in Windsor, ON too.
#2329




Join Date: Aug 2004
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Update for LAX T4
I'm pleased to report that the last 4-5 times I entered at LAX T4 (starting about late November or thereabouts), it is now much improved.
The right kiosk (there are only two) seems to be permanently out of order, and there is still a sign at the kiosks instructing GE people to see the first agent. A couple of times, the first agent was busy, but saw me waiting with a GE receipt, and waved me through.
The customs exit now has a clearly marked diplomatic and GE sign, with an agent keeping guard. This is a major improvement.
The right kiosk (there are only two) seems to be permanently out of order, and there is still a sign at the kiosks instructing GE people to see the first agent. A couple of times, the first agent was busy, but saw me waiting with a GE receipt, and waved me through.
The customs exit now has a clearly marked diplomatic and GE sign, with an agent keeping guard. This is a major improvement.
#2330



Join Date: Jan 2005
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I'm pleased to report that the last 4-5 times I entered at LAX T4 (starting about late November or thereabouts), it is now much improved.
The right kiosk (there are only two) seems to be permanently out of order, and there is still a sign at the kiosks instructing GE people to see the first agent. A couple of times, the first agent was busy, but saw me waiting with a GE receipt, and waved me through.
The customs exit now has a clearly marked diplomatic and GE sign, with an agent keeping guard. This is a major improvement.
The right kiosk (there are only two) seems to be permanently out of order, and there is still a sign at the kiosks instructing GE people to see the first agent. A couple of times, the first agent was busy, but saw me waiting with a GE receipt, and waved me through.
The customs exit now has a clearly marked diplomatic and GE sign, with an agent keeping guard. This is a major improvement.
When I got to immigration they saw the CE envelope and tried to direct me to an agent but there was already quite a line. I opted to walk all the way to the far end to use GE. IIRC they had 4 machines and they all worked fine, no line or waiting.
Got to the baggage carousel just as my bag was coming out (elapsed time since leaving the plane about 5 minutes, hehe). Got the bag and headed for the "middle" exit lane. It had a sign saying it was closed but when the guard saw my orange CE card she shuffled me through. I'm not sure if they would have done that if I didn't have that CE or not. No way to test it out now.

Anyway, I went straight to the front of the (very long) exit line, no wait.
#2331
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: YQR
Programs: NEXUS; alas, no status anymore.
Posts: 1,181
GlobalEntry adding more airports...
http://www.gsnmagazine.com/node/25485?c=border_security
Homeland Security is expanding GlobalEntry to CLT, PHX, MSP and DEN.
This is great news for people who fly out of my airport (YQR) as our non-stop US flights are to PHX, LAS, DEN, MSP and ORD so by the time this is done, all of our flights will be GlobalEntry-eligible. (No US pre-clearance at YQR.) This will be great for those flying out of YXE too, as well as other Canadian airports, not to mention several non-US airports that serve these destinations.
Homeland Security is expanding GlobalEntry to CLT, PHX, MSP and DEN.
This is great news for people who fly out of my airport (YQR) as our non-stop US flights are to PHX, LAS, DEN, MSP and ORD so by the time this is done, all of our flights will be GlobalEntry-eligible. (No US pre-clearance at YQR.) This will be great for those flying out of YXE too, as well as other Canadian airports, not to mention several non-US airports that serve these destinations.
#2332
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 7
GE with adopted children
My wife and I have been GE users for several years now and LOVE it. We are adopting two Ukrainian boys. They will have US Passports and citizenship when we bring them home for the first time. Obviously, they will not be GE members. Do you guys think we could get away with using the GE kiosks for the two of us, and then go through the crew/diplomat line with the two kids (like we got an "X")? Or should we wait in the regular line with the 1000s of other people for 2 hours?
#2333
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: YQR
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My wife and I have been GE users for several years now and LOVE it. We are adopting two Ukrainian boys. They will have US Passports and citizenship when we bring them home for the first time. Obviously, they will not be GE members. Do you guys think we could get away with using the GE kiosks for the two of us, and then go through the crew/diplomat line with the two kids (like we got an "X")? Or should we wait in the regular line with the 1000s of other people for 2 hours?
There might be an exception if your children are infants - but you'd be best to research it first.
#2334



Join Date: May 2009
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My wife and I have been GE users for several years now and LOVE it. We are adopting two Ukrainian boys. They will have US Passports and citizenship when we bring them home for the first time. Obviously, they will not be GE members. Do you guys think we could get away with using the GE kiosks for the two of us, and then go through the crew/diplomat line with the two kids (like we got an "X")? Or should we wait in the regular line with the 1000s of other people for 2 hours?
#2335



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Admittedly I haven't read all 51 pages of this thread. But.. I am curious. How often are you sent into secondary (customs) screening when you leave the customs area with your GE printed ticket? I've probably flown into the country 30 times since I joined the program and have always been waved by when I presented the ticket. It's a huge time saver mind you. Granted, even before GE, I was never once sent to secondary screening - but I'm curious, with your GE ticket, have you ever been sent into secondary screening?
If so, which airport?
If so, which airport?
#2336
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 29
Is Global Entry worth it?
(Sorry, I am new here and posted this question in a different thread about Global Entry, and then found this thread by googling, so I apologize if you saw my question twice)
My husband and I were both approved a few years ago, when Global Entry was new. We've come into the U.S. a few times since then and we are just not seeing the advantage. You do get to bypass Immigration, but Immigration lines usually move quite quickly anyway. Plus with more and more people getting Global Entry, isn't it just a matter of time till the lines at the scanners grow longer?
So then you get your luggage and then you stand in the same bloody Customs lines as everyone else, even if your Global Entry card cleared you for Customs.
And most people don't get questioned at Customs anyway. They just get waived through.
And even if you got the Customs Clearance at the kiosk, they can still question you or send you to Ag inspection.
So what is the point of Global Entry? And why doesn't Customs set up a separate line for Global Entry passengers?
My husband and I were both approved a few years ago, when Global Entry was new. We've come into the U.S. a few times since then and we are just not seeing the advantage. You do get to bypass Immigration, but Immigration lines usually move quite quickly anyway. Plus with more and more people getting Global Entry, isn't it just a matter of time till the lines at the scanners grow longer?
So then you get your luggage and then you stand in the same bloody Customs lines as everyone else, even if your Global Entry card cleared you for Customs.
And most people don't get questioned at Customs anyway. They just get waived through.
And even if you got the Customs Clearance at the kiosk, they can still question you or send you to Ag inspection.
So what is the point of Global Entry? And why doesn't Customs set up a separate line for Global Entry passengers?
#2337




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My husband and I were both approved a few years ago, when Global Entry was new. We've come into the U.S. a few times since then and we are just not seeing the advantage. You do get to bypass Immigration, but Immigration lines usually move quite quickly anyway. Plus with more and more people getting Global Entry, isn't it just a matter of time till the lines at the scanners grow longer?
You're correct that as more people get GE, there will start being lines for the kiosks. LAX T4 has only two kiosks, and one has been out of order for several months, so there is often a line.
The point of GE is to make C&BI's job easier. They are in essence looking for a needle (someone who shouldn't be admitted or someone smuggling in contraband) in a haystack (huge amount of people entering the country, almost all of whom are fine). The goal is GE is reduce the amount of hay C&BI needs to examine. Less hay means an easier time finding the needle. By pre-screening people at very low risk of being a problem, they can spend more time looking at everyone else.
#2338
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(Sorry, I am new here and posted this question in a different thread about Global Entry, and then found this thread by googling, so I apologize if you saw my question twice)
My husband and I were both approved a few years ago, when Global Entry was new. We've come into the U.S. a few times since then and we are just not seeing the advantage. You do get to bypass Immigration, but Immigration lines usually move quite quickly anyway. Plus with more and more people getting Global Entry, isn't it just a matter of time till the lines at the scanners grow longer?
So then you get your luggage and then you stand in the same bloody Customs lines as everyone else, even if your Global Entry card cleared you for Customs.
And most people don't get questioned at Customs anyway. They just get waived through.
And even if you got the Customs Clearance at the kiosk, they can still question you or send you to Ag inspection.
So what is the point of Global Entry? And why doesn't Customs set up a separate line for Global Entry passengers?
My husband and I were both approved a few years ago, when Global Entry was new. We've come into the U.S. a few times since then and we are just not seeing the advantage. You do get to bypass Immigration, but Immigration lines usually move quite quickly anyway. Plus with more and more people getting Global Entry, isn't it just a matter of time till the lines at the scanners grow longer?
So then you get your luggage and then you stand in the same bloody Customs lines as everyone else, even if your Global Entry card cleared you for Customs.
And most people don't get questioned at Customs anyway. They just get waived through.
And even if you got the Customs Clearance at the kiosk, they can still question you or send you to Ag inspection.
So what is the point of Global Entry? And why doesn't Customs set up a separate line for Global Entry passengers?
The point is 8 minutes from door open at JFK to outside customs and heading out to my car. Or similar at ORD and changing to a connection home 2 hours earlier than the one I was booked on. I have sen really long lines at immigration. I'm not in them now. And that's a good thing.
#2339




Join Date: Feb 2005
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Just got to use GE for the first time last night (along with Mrs jasonvr). Had an ID connection in IAH (returning from CUN). Connection was 90 minutes (MCT is 75 at IAH) which really didn't leave much room for error.
After the long walk to the immigration hall from our gate we immediately spotted the bank of empty GE machines (nice signage directing you there). Within 30 seconds we were both done and proceeding out to the baggage carousels. At that point we saw the regular lines and they weren't pretty (not awful, but would have made the connection uncomfortable). As we were exiting only one other person approached the kiosks - a pilot.
We got out to carousel and in within minutes our bag was out. Then out thru the GE/crew line to recheck the bag. I am 99.9% sure that we had rechecked our bag before anyone else on the flight had even cleared immigration.
My wife, who usually does not get excited by things like this, had only one thing to say - "That was amazing". I think that comparing this to the mess we faced in ORD coming back from Europe, and the complete disaster we faced in LAX coming back from Turkey, is what swayed her opinion the most
Even managed to make it to the United Club to grab a bit of food, drink, and internet before heading to our connecting flight.
Even if we never use it again, it has already paid for itself. Of course, we plan more international travel within the 5 year validity period, so it will just pay for itself again and again!
After the long walk to the immigration hall from our gate we immediately spotted the bank of empty GE machines (nice signage directing you there). Within 30 seconds we were both done and proceeding out to the baggage carousels. At that point we saw the regular lines and they weren't pretty (not awful, but would have made the connection uncomfortable). As we were exiting only one other person approached the kiosks - a pilot.
We got out to carousel and in within minutes our bag was out. Then out thru the GE/crew line to recheck the bag. I am 99.9% sure that we had rechecked our bag before anyone else on the flight had even cleared immigration.
My wife, who usually does not get excited by things like this, had only one thing to say - "That was amazing". I think that comparing this to the mess we faced in ORD coming back from Europe, and the complete disaster we faced in LAX coming back from Turkey, is what swayed her opinion the most

Even managed to make it to the United Club to grab a bit of food, drink, and internet before heading to our connecting flight.
Even if we never use it again, it has already paid for itself. Of course, we plan more international travel within the 5 year validity period, so it will just pay for itself again and again!
(Sorry, I am new here and posted this question in a different thread about Global Entry, and then found this thread by googling, so I apologize if you saw my question twice)
My husband and I were both approved a few years ago, when Global Entry was new. We've come into the U.S. a few times since then and we are just not seeing the advantage. You do get to bypass Immigration, but Immigration lines usually move quite quickly anyway. Plus with more and more people getting Global Entry, isn't it just a matter of time till the lines at the scanners grow longer?
So then you get your luggage and then you stand in the same bloody Customs lines as everyone else, even if your Global Entry card cleared you for Customs.
And most people don't get questioned at Customs anyway. They just get waived through.
And even if you got the Customs Clearance at the kiosk, they can still question you or send you to Ag inspection.
So what is the point of Global Entry? And why doesn't Customs set up a separate line for Global Entry passengers?
My husband and I were both approved a few years ago, when Global Entry was new. We've come into the U.S. a few times since then and we are just not seeing the advantage. You do get to bypass Immigration, but Immigration lines usually move quite quickly anyway. Plus with more and more people getting Global Entry, isn't it just a matter of time till the lines at the scanners grow longer?
So then you get your luggage and then you stand in the same bloody Customs lines as everyone else, even if your Global Entry card cleared you for Customs.
And most people don't get questioned at Customs anyway. They just get waived through.
And even if you got the Customs Clearance at the kiosk, they can still question you or send you to Ag inspection.
So what is the point of Global Entry? And why doesn't Customs set up a separate line for Global Entry passengers?
#2340
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: YQR
Programs: NEXUS; alas, no status anymore.
Posts: 1,181
The point is 8 minutes from door open at JFK to outside customs and heading out to my car. Or similar at ORD and changing to a connection home 2 hours earlier than the one I was booked on. I have sen really long lines at immigration. I'm not in them now. And that's a good thing.

There will be times when it provides no benefit and there are times when it provides staggering benefit.
Adding in my NEXUS experiences (in both directions, since I can use it entering Canada or the US) I'd say that it saves me significant time (>5 minutes) about 75% of the time, maybe more.

