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Originally Posted by Derek
(Post 16487507)
Untrue.
Originally Posted by dodger 1k
(Post 16489252)
True per the CBP and their Ombudsman. Do not apply if you have a misdemeanor conviction. It will be a waste of $100.
Originally Posted by Derek
(Post 16495213)
Yet nonetheless untrue.
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Originally Posted by colonius
(Post 16495444)
To Derek: how about some corroboration? Some facts or at least rumors? These one word replies are pointless and waste our time.
I will say I know for a fact that this is untrue. A felony will get you rejected, obviously, as felons cannot normally enter the US or Canada. I would expect lying about a misdemeanour would be grounds for refusal, but when disclosed, it is just another factor amongst many. |
Originally Posted by colonius
(Post 16495444)
To Derek: how about some corroboration? Some facts or at least rumors? These one word replies are pointless and waste our time.
We're all grown-ups here (most of us, anyway ;)) and can make our own assessments of the credibility of statements made on FT. It may be that Derek (or Derek's friend) is an exceptional case, but why would he bother lying about it repeatedly here? Greg |
Originally Posted by greg99
(Post 16497554)
Perhaps Derek or someone close to Derek has received GE notwithstanding the fact that they have a misdemeanor conviction, but Derek doesn't feel it reasonable, necessary or appropriate to disclose the facts and circumstances of the conviction on a public Frequent Flyer board?
We're all grown-ups here (most of us, anyway ;)) and can make our own assessments of the credibility of statements made on FT. It may be that Derek (or Derek's friend) is an exceptional case, but why would he bother lying about it repeatedly here? Greg I think it comes down to the definition of "criminal conviction" and determining if that means misdemeanour offences, felonies, administrative offences and so on. I can say that at least in one case, a misdemeanour conviction was disclosed on two occasions, and Nexus and Global Entry (pre-2011) were approved. YMMV, but I would not avoid applying solely on a misdemeanour offence. Unless it were customs or immigration related, I suppose. Greg, my friend thanks you for your discretion. |
Originally Posted by Derek
(Post 16497590)
Thanks, that's about the gist of it.
I think it comes down to the definition of "criminal conviction" and determining if that means misdemeanour offences, felonies, administrative offences and so on. I can say that at least in one case, a misdemeanour conviction was disclosed on two occasions, and Nexus and Global Entry (pre-2011) were approved. YMMV, but I would not avoid applying solely on a misdemeanour offence. Unless it were customs or immigration related, I suppose. Greg, my friend thanks you for your discretion. FB |
Originally Posted by Derek
(Post 16497515)
I am not the person who is making a false statement, so I don't think I am the one to justify my response. Making things up or assuming something then posting them as facts I think are more of a waste of folks' time.
I will say I know for a fact that this is untrue. A felony will get you rejected, obviously, as felons cannot normally enter the US or Canada. I would expect lying about a misdemeanour would be grounds for refusal, but when disclosed, it is just another factor amongst many. I do not encourage anyone with such a conviction to apply, as your $100 fee will not be refunded. If one chooses to roll the dice, so be it, you might slip through the bureaucracy, but I would advise contacting the CBP first. |
Originally Posted by Firebug4
(Post 16497921)
You are somewhat correct in the conclusions that you have drawn. It matters if the criminal conviction was a felony, or a misdemeanor. In the case of the misdemeanor conviction, more information will be required to determine if the misdemeanor was a crime of moral turpitude. It does not have to be customs or immigration related to be a disqualifier in most cases the determining factor for convictions will be if it was a crime of moral turpitude.
FB Unfortunately, they do not solicit or accept additional information that would mitigate the conviction. As I mentioned, even a TS clearance is irrelevant to them, which is an exhaustive and comprehensive background check. It has been suggested earlier in the thread that the CBP will consider applicants with misdemeanors over 10 years old. While I can't discount that as false, I have seen no mention of this in their official correspondence, publications, or the Federal Register. I would once again suggest potential applicants with misdemeanor convictions to contact the CBP or the Ombudsman for any questions or clarifications. Now I have not seen it mentioned on FT, but expungements are another matter, but I have no personal knowledge with respect to their applicability to Global Entry and it's application procedures. The CBP was unresponsive to my query regarding this. |
Originally Posted by dodger 1k
(Post 16501317)
The type of conviction is irrelevant to the CBP. Whether a crime of moral turpitude or even a Class C misdemeanor of the vehicle code, the CBP does not distinguish and rejects the application.
Unfortunately, they do not solicit or accept additional information that would mitigate the conviction. As I mentioned, even a TS clearance is irrelevant to them, which is an exhaustive and comprehensive background check. It has been suggested earlier in the thread that the CBP will consider applicants with misdemeanors over 10 years old. While I can't discount that as false, I have seen no mention of this in their official correspondence, publications, or the Federal Register. I would once again suggest potential applicants with misdemeanor convictions to contact the CBP or the Ombudsman for any questions or clarifications. Now I have not seen it mentioned on FT, but expungements are another matter, but I have no personal knowledge with respect to their applicability to Global Entry and it's application procedures. The CBP was unresponsive to my query regarding this. FB |
Originally Posted by Firebug4
(Post 16501362)
Ummm OK, I kinda thought I had a pretty good idea what is relevant and what is irrelevant to CBP. However, I am sure you know better than I do. I am sure my information is incorrect.:confused:
FB And given the new Federal Register, they may start giving more scrutiny to arrests as well. So if you ever got busted smoking a joint in college or having an open container of beer in the backseat on the way home from the game, or walking home from the bar (public intoxication), or driving 80mph anywhere in Hawaii (misdemeanor I kid you not), expect some additional scrutiny. |
Originally Posted by Firebug4
(Post 16501362)
Ummm OK, I kinda thought I had a pretty good idea what is relevant and what is irrelevant to CBP. However, I am sure you know better than I do. I am sure my information is incorrect.:confused:
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Originally Posted by PhotoJim
(Post 16502465)
Instead of you two arguing about it (which none of the rest of us are particularly enjoying), why don't you simply apply and report back?
FB Edited to be clear: What I experienced in conducting the interviews to obtain the cards, including the recommendations made to issue the cards are not consistent with the statements dodger 1k is making. I guess there are quite a few cards we have to go get back. |
Originally Posted by PhotoJim
(Post 16502465)
Instead of you two arguing about it (which none of the rest of us are particularly enjoying), why don't you simply apply and report back?
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At my interview in BOS, I specifically asked the agent what the criteria for acceptance was with regard to past convictions... he stated that a misdemeanor within the past 10 years or a felony at any time in the past would disqualify an applicant.
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Originally Posted by PhotoJim
(Post 16502465)
Instead of you two arguing about it (which none of the rest of us are particularly enjoying), why don't you simply apply and report back?
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Originally Posted by RobertS975
(Post 16504383)
At my interview in BOS, I specifically asked the agent what the criteria for acceptance was with regard to past convictions... he stated that a misdemeanor within the past 10 years or a felony at any time in the past would disqualify an applicant.
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