Registered Traveler (Fly Clear) (Merged Threads)
Aug 5, 2008, 9:41 am
#271
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Somewhere near BWI
Programs: DL DM, HH Dia, SPG Gold, MR Plat, Hertz PC
Posts: 3,654
TSA will simply say that it is a "security issue." They are already taking the ID requirement to a level of granular stupidity. My bet is that they will say since the laptop has been compromised, they cannot guarantee that the identity process of R/T is still valid, and since, to TSA, ID=Security, they will require all R/T lanes be shut down until the program can be re-evaluated.
Aug 5, 2008, 9:59 am
#272
Formerly known as CollegeFlyer
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: JRA
Programs: UA 1K MM, AA PLT, Hyatt Diamond, Marriott Gold, Hertz 5*
Posts: 6,716
And I thought that someone should get him too, because he flaunted his personal info so proudly (fools rush in where angels fear to tread).
But I don't think there was anything wrong with him "selling something that was available for free." I can do my own taxes, by hand, for free too, but I'll gladly pay $50 for TurboTax to save myself 10 hours of slaving over a calculator and researching tax exemption laws. Or I'd fork over $200 to have H&R Block take care of the entire thing for me.
I can wash and iron my own shirts for free too, but I'm delighted to pay the cleaners $2 per shirt to do it for me.
Aug 5, 2008, 10:02 am
#273
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: DCA / WAS
Programs: DL 2+ million/PM, YX, Marriott Plt, *wood gold, HHonors, CO Plt, UA, AA EXP, WN, AGR
Posts: 9,388
Aug 5, 2008, 10:04 am
#274
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 10,037
This is VERY cool. I got in just in time, and now there will not be new enrollees clogging up my short lines for the time being! ^^
As for the stolen laptop, I am every bit as comfortable with CLEAR having that 411 as I am the DMV. Heck, at least with CLEAR if they are actually negligent with the 411 (ie, they DIDNT have it double-password protected as they apparently do) they are liable to civil actions without having to leap through a sovereign immunity hoop. That's actually BETTER accountability for protecting my privacy, imho.
As for the stolen laptop, I am every bit as comfortable with CLEAR having that 411 as I am the DMV. Heck, at least with CLEAR if they are actually negligent with the 411 (ie, they DIDNT have it double-password protected as they apparently do) they are liable to civil actions without having to leap through a sovereign immunity hoop. That's actually BETTER accountability for protecting my privacy, imho.
With the time you've saved without the newbies, you might want to consider the fact that the TSA could very well tell Steven Brill to pound sand because they can't be trusted.
Seems like a stretch, but the TSA are artists at making a mountain out of a mole hill.
Aug 5, 2008, 11:03 am
#276
Moderator: Luxury Hotels and FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Palo Alto, California,USA
Posts: 17,879
FYI, the enrollment/renewal fee for Clear has been raised to $128/yr from $100.
Still one year free (once enrollment begins again) for Hyatt elites, and a renewal year is currently being given for free to Hyatt elites as well.
Still one year free (once enrollment begins again) for Hyatt elites, and a renewal year is currently being given for free to Hyatt elites as well.
Aug 5, 2008, 11:26 am
#277
Original Member, Ambassador: External Miles and Points Resources
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Digital Nomad Wandering the Earth - Currently in COPENHAGEN, DENMARK
Posts: 58,700
The TSA loves to hold everyone else accountable (except for themsevles). The TSA isn't very thrilled about Clear in the first place. Don't think for a second that this breach will be just brushed aside.
With the time you've saved without the newbies, you might want to consider the fact that the TSA could very well tell Steven Brill to pound sand because they can't be trusted.
Seems like a stretch, but the TSA are artists at making a mountain out of a mole hill.
With the time you've saved without the newbies, you might want to consider the fact that the TSA could very well tell Steven Brill to pound sand because they can't be trusted.
Seems like a stretch, but the TSA are artists at making a mountain out of a mole hill.
I find myself in the corner with the corporate business travel world against TSA on this. I think Congress will too.
It's one thing to screw around with ma and pa kettle. It's quite another to mess with corporate travel departments of the Fortune 200, all of whom have vested business interests in efficient air travel (and the lobbying departments to back that up). And besides, would you be surprised to learn that nearly every member of Congress is a participant in Clear, with the amount of flying back and forth to DC they do? I certainly wouldn't. @:-)
Aug 5, 2008, 11:36 am
#278
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Pismo Beach, CA
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Platinum Elite, UA Premier 1K, TAP Silver, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 1,544
From the Clear web site
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Aug 5, 2008, 11:45 am
#279
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Fresno, CA
Programs: AAdvantage Gold 1MM, United Gold
Posts: 141
"Clear" travel customers -- your information at risk -- lost laptop (since found)
KCBS in San Francisco is reporting that 33,000 customers have had their personal information compromised when "an unencrypted computer storing the personal information on the cards went missing from SFO on July 26th".
Slashdot observes that the contractor running the Clear program is "in the process of notifying customers that all of their personal data, including name, address, SSi number, passport number, date of birth, etc. has been compromised."
Just a heads-up. If you are in the Clear program, you might want to put a fraud alert on your credit reports.
Slashdot observes that the contractor running the Clear program is "in the process of notifying customers that all of their personal data, including name, address, SSi number, passport number, date of birth, etc. has been compromised."
Just a heads-up. If you are in the Clear program, you might want to put a fraud alert on your credit reports.
Aug 5, 2008, 12:11 pm
#280
Moderator: Smoking Lounge; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: SFO
Programs: Lifetime (for now) Gold MM, HH Gold, Giving Tootsie Pops to UA employees, & a retired hockey goalie
Posts: 28,884
KCBS in San Francisco is reporting that 33,000 customers have had their personal information compromised when "an unencrypted computer storing the personal information on the cards went missing from SFO on July 26th".
Slashdot observes that the contractor running the Clear program is "in the process of notifying customers that all of their personal data, including name, address, SSi number, passport number, date of birth, etc. has been compromised."
Just a heads-up. If you are in the Clear program, you might want to put a fraud alert on your credit reports.
Slashdot observes that the contractor running the Clear program is "in the process of notifying customers that all of their personal data, including name, address, SSi number, passport number, date of birth, etc. has been compromised."
Just a heads-up. If you are in the Clear program, you might want to put a fraud alert on your credit reports.
perhaps merge and then move to travel safety & security?
Aug 5, 2008, 12:11 pm
#281
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: DFW
Posts: 8,039
Laptop containing unencrypted personal info of 33,000 Clear applicants stolen
The Transportation Security Administration says a laptop containing the sensitive personal information of 33,000 applicants to an airport security prescreening program has gone missing.
T.S.A. spokesperson Ann Davis told CBS an unencrypted computer storing the personal information on the cards went missing from SFO on July 26th, but the agency was not notified until Sunday.
T.S.A. spokesperson Ann Davis told CBS an unencrypted computer storing the personal information on the cards went missing from SFO on July 26th, but the agency was not notified until Sunday.
Aug 5, 2008, 12:30 pm
#282
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Salish Sea
Programs: DL,AC,HH,PC
Posts: 8,974
An agency spokesman says the company must notify all affected applicants and show it has installed encryption on all its computers before it can restart enrollments.
You can trust us, we're The Government. Umm.. okay
Aug 5, 2008, 12:31 pm
#284
Formerly known as CollegeFlyer
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: JRA
Programs: UA 1K MM, AA PLT, Hyatt Diamond, Marriott Gold, Hertz 5*
Posts: 6,716
I got the free year as a Hyatt Platinum, but now I'm only a Hyatt Gold. Can I still get the free renewal?
