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Old Apr 15, 2002 | 10:53 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Seat 2A:
Xenophobic: The fear that you're being stalked by bowlegged anthropologists

Wait! That's Zeeenophobick
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Old Apr 16, 2002 | 1:34 am
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Old Apr 16, 2002 | 3:52 am
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thank you for the (long) trip reports.

I would appreciate if you could/would mention the dates (years) of your trips in the thread title (or at least at the beginning of each report).

I am much more interested in recent trip reports (2002) than in those dating back to the last century (I believe I read, at the end of one of your latest trip reports, that it was done 1999).
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Old Apr 16, 2002 | 6:56 am
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Liked the Pacific one. Agree with Rudi that ONLY current year reports should be here, from you or anyone else. Disagree with Mashev.
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Old Apr 16, 2002 | 12:57 pm
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michael, love 'em. they are the best!
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Old Apr 16, 2002 | 1:22 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by mashav:
Michael,
by all means, do another trip report, as long as you realize that by posting it in a public forum you expose yourself to possible negative feedback. And not from 'kids playing' as you so charmingly described it, but from our fellow FTers who have every right to politely disagree with, say, any narrow-minded, xenophobic, ugly-American-tourist remarks they come across.
If you don't want to see any negative comments following your trip reports, stick to your personal email list. In a community as large and diverse as FT, someone will find something to disagree with.
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&gt;&gt;&gt; mashav, very nicely said. i am glad that in your america, people have the right to express themselves, when it conforms to what other people want to hear. you have proven that there in reality is no true free speech in america. one must be politically correct, as you say.

well, let me help you out. your beloved arab nations don't permit free speech. there is not one democratic arab country on this earth. you go and slam my friend for making one anti-arab comment a week after september 11th, a horrible day for america. he apologizes, you still slam him. he apologizes again, you continue to slam him and you have mostly chased him away. if you don't think a bunch of us jews have been watching, oh, we've been watching. you then ruined his auspicious trip report after he put hours into it. seiple, we will deal with you later. arab lover.

when arabs strap explosives to themselves and blow themselves up in your cafes, theaters, and synagogues, or churches in your case, you might feel very differently.

oh yes, your churches. do you worship freely in saudi arabia? no. there are no churhces and there is no christian worship. but then you come to israel and build churches all over our nation. but then you slam us in your press and are pro-arab, even when they slam airplanes into your buildings and kill thousands. amazing. you people are like the sheep to the slaughter. how many times do muslims have to kidnap your diplomats at your embassies before you learn that they don't like you?

now, instead of, as you call flaming,
what a clever word and
so american, my friend w/t -you come and flame me. 10 of my friends, all israelis, are coming on board. you want a flame war? we'll give you one. and you can keep your precious arabs. maybe when they start to kill off your children in your schoolyards, completely defenseles, then you will see how we feel.



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Old Apr 16, 2002 | 1:29 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ElAl744:
&gt;&gt;&gt; mashav, very nicely said. i am glad that in your america, people have the right to express themselves, when it conforms to what other people want to hear. you have proven that there in reality is no true free speech in america. one must be politically correct, as you say.

well, let me help you out. your beloved arab nations don't permit free speech. there is not one democratic arab country on this earth. you go and slam my friend for making one anti-arab comment a week after september 11th, a horrible day for america. he apologizes, you still slam him. he apologizes again, you continue to slam him and you have mostly chased him away. if you don't think a bunch of us jews have been watching, oh, we've been watching. you then ruined his auspicious trip report after he put hours into it. seiple, we will deal with you later. arab lover.

when arabs strap explosives to themselves and blow themselves up in your cafes, theaters, and synagogues, or churches in your case, you might feel very differently.

oh yes, your churches. do you worship freely in saudi arabia? no. there are no churhces and there is no christian worship. but then you come to israel and build churches all over our nation. but then you slam us in your press and are pro-arab, even when they slam airplanes into your buildings and kill thousands. amazing. you people are like the sheep to the slaughter. how many times do muslims have to kidnap your diplomats at your embassies before you learn that they don't like you?

now, instead of, as you call flaming,
what a clever word and
so american, my friend w/t -you come and flame me. 10 of my friends, all israelis, are coming on board. you want a flame war? we'll give you one. and you can keep your precious arabs. maybe when they start to kill off your children in your schoolyards, completely defenseles, then you will see how we feel.
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Old Apr 16, 2002 | 1:32 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ElAl744:
&gt;&gt;&gt; mashav, very nicely said. i am glad that in your america, people have the right to express themselves, when it conforms to what other people want to hear. you have proven that there in reality is no true free speech in america. one must be politically correct, as you say.

well, let me help you out. your beloved arab nations don't permit free speech. there is not one democratic arab country on this earth. you go and slam my friend for making one anti-arab comment a week after september 11th, a horrible day for america. he apologizes, you still slam him. he apologizes again, you continue to slam him and you have mostly chased him away. if you don't think a bunch of us jews have been watching, oh, we've been watching. you then ruined his auspicious trip report after he put hours into it. seiple, we will deal with you later. arab lover.

when arabs strap explosives to themselves and blow themselves up in your cafes, theaters, and synagogues, or churches in your case, you might feel very differently.

oh yes, your churches. do you worship freely in saudi arabia? no. there are no churhces and there is no christian worship. but then you come to israel and build churches all over our nation. but then you slam us in your press and are pro-arab, even when they slam airplanes into your buildings and kill thousands. amazing. you people are like the sheep to the slaughter. how many times do muslims have to kidnap your diplomats at your embassies before you learn that they don't like you?

now, instead of, as you call flaming,
what a clever word and
so american, my friend w/t -you come and flame me. 10 of my friends, all israelis, are coming on board. you want a flame war? we'll give you one. and you can keep your precious arabs. maybe when they start to kill off your children in your schoolyards, completely defenseles, then you will see how we feel.

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Wow, I guess WT36 is briging his own army of "children" on here to start a flame war.
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Old Apr 16, 2002 | 1:38 pm
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Gee WT36... how dumb do you really think we all are?

You know, there are several things that are a violation of the TOS for this community... multiple handles are one and personal attacks are another.



You know... there are days I really like Flyer Talk. And there are days that I really wonder why I waste my time and energy....
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Old Apr 16, 2002 | 1:45 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Seiple:
Wow, I guess WT36 is briging his own army of "children" on here to start a flame war. </font>
seiple! how nice of you to come out and play. we are not children. we are israelis who are fed up with our country being torn to pieces by your precious arabs that you admire so much. w/t is a long time friend of mine. many of his friends are pissed at you, more so you than anyone

you want to f- his reports, you have done that. now its our turn

let the flames begin

btw, thanks for chasing him away.
he did so many good things on here



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Old Apr 16, 2002 | 1:49 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by techgirl:
Gee WT36... how dumb do you really think we all are?

You know, there are several things that are a violation of the TOS for this community... multiple handles are one and personal attacks are another.



You know... there are days I really like Flyer Talk. And there are days that I really wonder why I waste my time and energy....
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dear american texan princess, sorry not sure which one comes first
the republic of texas?

i don't know how dumb you are. you think you are a queen or something. i could care less about tos. you people violated tos many times over and nothing was done. so why should it be done now.

why not leave people alone. go to your precious massage and be a queen for a day



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Old Apr 16, 2002 | 1:49 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ElAl744:
&gt;&gt;&gt; mashav, very nicely said. i am glad that in your america, people have the right to express themselves, when it conforms to what other people want to hear. you have proven that there in reality is no true free speech in america. one must be politically correct, as you say.

well, let me help you out. your beloved arab nations don't permit free speech. there is not one democratic arab country on this earth. you go and slam my friend for making one anti-arab comment a week after september 11th, a horrible day for america. he apologizes, you still slam him. he apologizes again, you continue to slam him and you have mostly chased him away. if you don't think a bunch of us jews have been watching, oh, we've been watching. you then ruined his auspicious trip report after he put hours into it. seiple, we will deal with you later. arab lover.

when arabs strap explosives to themselves and blow themselves up in your cafes, theaters, and synagogues, or churches in your case, you might feel very differently.

oh yes, your churches. do you worship freely in saudi arabia? no. there are no churhces and there is no christian worship. but then you come to israel and build churches all over our nation. but then you slam us in your press and are pro-arab, even when they slam airplanes into your buildings and kill thousands. amazing. you people are like the sheep to the slaughter. how many times do muslims have to kidnap your diplomats at your embassies before you learn that they don't like you?

now, instead of, as you call flaming,
what a clever word and
so american, my friend w/t -you come and flame me. 10 of my friends, all israelis, are coming on board. you want a flame war? we'll give you one. and you can keep your precious arabs. maybe when they start to kill off your children in your schoolyards, completely defenseles, then you will see how we feel.

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For the record,
I am a Russian born and raised Jew who got back from a trip to Israel less than two month ago. I have pictures of my friend (career IDF) and me sitting the cafe on Allenby which was bombed a couple of weeks ago.

Do not begin to presume to know what my feelings are on the Middle East conflict, on the September bombing or anything else for that matter.

This is not about political correctness (which I abhor) but rather the very reason my family sought the honor and privilege of a US citizenship - the freedom from religious persecution and racism which is afforded us in this country (it's not perfect, but it's the best system I've seen.)

If you or one of your other avatars want to continue this discussion further, please email me privately. I have no wish to engage in a religious flame war in this forum.

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Old Apr 16, 2002 | 1:50 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ElAl744:
seiple! how nice of you to come out and play. we are not children. we are israelis who are fed up with our country being torn to pieces by your precious arabs that you admire so much. w/t is a long time friend of mine. many of his friends are pissed at you, more so you than anyone

you want to f- his reports, you have done that. now its our turn

let the flames begin

btw, thanks for chasing him away.
he did so many good things on here

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I don't recall ever referring to Arabs as precious or anything of the nature. Nor did I go on to make blanket racist statements. My political views are not ncessarily what you have assumed them to be, but they have no bearing on this board. This isn't a politics board, so what my view is on situations such as Arab/Israeli conficts has no place here. It is irrelevant on Flyertalk.

All I have done is reply to the harrassing e-mails and posts I have received and replied to insults directed at me. This is completely defensive. What is offensive is the crap I have been receiving that started all of this..... the directives and name-calling that arrived in my e-mail inbox from WT36 instructing me on what I can and cannot post and also insulting me. That I will not take and neither will the others on this board who have received similar e-mails.
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Old Apr 16, 2002 | 1:58 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by mashav:
For the record,
I am a Russian born and raised Jew who got back from a trip to Israel less than two month ago. I have pictures of my friend (career IDF) and me sitting the cafe on Allenby which was bombed a couple of weeks ago.

Do not begin to presume to know what my feelings are on the Middle East conflict, on the September bombing or anything else for that matter.

This is not about political correctness (which I abhor) but rather the very reason my family sought the honor and privilege of a US citizenship - the freedom from religious persecution and racism which is afforded us in this country (it's not perfect, but it's the best system I've seen.)

If you or one of your other avatars want to continue this discussion further, please email me privately. I have no wish to engage in a religious flame war in this forum.

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mashav, so you are a jew? how nice. why didn't you feel this way when you were slamming my buddy into a wall? you sobs mocked him and that was ok, but now that were about to take your traitor a--, now you want it done privately, how convenient.

how many times did the nice world loving w/t explain he is not a racis and ask you to stop? you just kept on coming creating 5 pages of hiw work

it doesn't work that waay
by the way, w/t is one of the nicest guys you could ever know, one reason why we are outraged

you come f-with us!


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Old Apr 16, 2002 | 1:58 pm
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Elal744, your profile says you are a laywer. Perhaps you should read up on libel before you post any more on these boards?

Thanks.
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