physically ejected from a plane
Jun 19, 1999 | 6:13 pm
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senor noetawl putt -30- en postie. thet meen et awl ovr butt thes post frum arturo. arturo stihl themk "mr. charmin" pass gas an they knot tel hem about fatulanse.
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Jun 20, 1999 | 4:26 pm
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Well, when you people need a question answered, I
will do the same for you all as you did for
me-provide no answers with a lot of snotty
remarks. What is so pathetic is the fact that
you all claim to be very informative, yet
cannot answer a simple question. The thread should
end because of the childish responses. When you all
need help, I hope you get what you gave here.
will do the same for you all as you did for
me-provide no answers with a lot of snotty
remarks. What is so pathetic is the fact that
you all claim to be very informative, yet
cannot answer a simple question. The thread should
end because of the childish responses. When you all
need help, I hope you get what you gave here.
Jun 20, 1999 | 5:07 pm
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"On a recent trip I was physically ejected off the plane by airline staff. I am interested in people who had similar problems with the airlines; what was done by them; and what was resolved".
Actually I think you can tell by the responses that no one on this board has been physically ejected from an airplane. Chauming you have to admit that this is an unusual event--not the sort of thing you read about in the papers everyday, nor do I see it on the court dockets for lawsuits. About the only time we hear of people being physically ejected is because of criminal behavior. Hence the skepticism and the lack of understanding on this board for your position.
Were you too drunk to know why you were ejected from the plane? Do you have a medical condition that was misinterpreted as aggressive or threatening behavior by the airline crew?
Now the airlines do some things to tick us off and occasionally treat us miserably. I have never seen nor heard of a case where someone was "physically ejected" for no apparent reason. I have seen people who have been asked to leave as there was a double booked seat but the people have always gone without incident so have not had to be "ejected" and the airlines have always been kind and apologetic to them.
Were you physically ejected or kindly asked to leave (you did say in a subsequent post that you made it sound worse than it was and I think that is what has led to the confrontation that has developed in this thread)?
I could go on and on but it should be obvious by now that what may seem like a simple question to you is obviously not a simple question to those who have never experienced such a situation. While you may interpret some of the comments as "snotty", I actually thought that flyer talkers were trying to get to the bottom of it.
If you had said: "The plane was fully booked and I was seated in 5C, another passenger came along and had a boarding card for 5C also. Since he had Diamond status and I am only Silver, the flight attendant asked me to give up my seat. I was very upset as I had my anniversary to get to so I stood my ground and said that I wasn't going anywhere. After a little while I calmed down and acceded to their request. They put me up in a hotel overnight and put me on the first flight out in the morning. What else do you think I am entitled to and how do you think a person should handle a situation like this? Anybody out there that has had similar problems?" Now that is something we could relate to and you might have gotten some helpful advice and, probably, a lot of sympathy.
If you look at the threads, with some minor exceptions, most people try to be helpful and we have even developed a sense of community here. Some of us have even helped out a fellow Flyer Talker to resolve a problem with a particular airline.
Actually I think you can tell by the responses that no one on this board has been physically ejected from an airplane. Chauming you have to admit that this is an unusual event--not the sort of thing you read about in the papers everyday, nor do I see it on the court dockets for lawsuits. About the only time we hear of people being physically ejected is because of criminal behavior. Hence the skepticism and the lack of understanding on this board for your position.
Were you too drunk to know why you were ejected from the plane? Do you have a medical condition that was misinterpreted as aggressive or threatening behavior by the airline crew?
Now the airlines do some things to tick us off and occasionally treat us miserably. I have never seen nor heard of a case where someone was "physically ejected" for no apparent reason. I have seen people who have been asked to leave as there was a double booked seat but the people have always gone without incident so have not had to be "ejected" and the airlines have always been kind and apologetic to them.
Were you physically ejected or kindly asked to leave (you did say in a subsequent post that you made it sound worse than it was and I think that is what has led to the confrontation that has developed in this thread)?
I could go on and on but it should be obvious by now that what may seem like a simple question to you is obviously not a simple question to those who have never experienced such a situation. While you may interpret some of the comments as "snotty", I actually thought that flyer talkers were trying to get to the bottom of it.
If you had said: "The plane was fully booked and I was seated in 5C, another passenger came along and had a boarding card for 5C also. Since he had Diamond status and I am only Silver, the flight attendant asked me to give up my seat. I was very upset as I had my anniversary to get to so I stood my ground and said that I wasn't going anywhere. After a little while I calmed down and acceded to their request. They put me up in a hotel overnight and put me on the first flight out in the morning. What else do you think I am entitled to and how do you think a person should handle a situation like this? Anybody out there that has had similar problems?" Now that is something we could relate to and you might have gotten some helpful advice and, probably, a lot of sympathy.
If you look at the threads, with some minor exceptions, most people try to be helpful and we have even developed a sense of community here. Some of us have even helped out a fellow Flyer Talker to resolve a problem with a particular airline.
Jun 20, 1999 | 5:16 pm
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chauming did 52 postings overall - I did read all of them:
- most threads chauming started were questions, many of them were in a negative "mood" right from the start
- on many questions flyertalk-colleagues gave answers/comments to the best of their knowledge - I have yet to see a "thank you" from chauming to any one who answered ...
- and I didn't find any really good advice/info from chauming when I re-read all 52 postings these last days.
thank you chauming for ending this thread!
(I would prefer to communicate this by direct email - under four eyes - but I can't find your email address anywhere).
[This message has been edited by Rudi (edited 06-20-1999).]
- most threads chauming started were questions, many of them were in a negative "mood" right from the start
- on many questions flyertalk-colleagues gave answers/comments to the best of their knowledge - I have yet to see a "thank you" from chauming to any one who answered ...
- and I didn't find any really good advice/info from chauming when I re-read all 52 postings these last days.
thank you chauming for ending this thread!
(I would prefer to communicate this by direct email - under four eyes - but I can't find your email address anywhere).
[This message has been edited by Rudi (edited 06-20-1999).]
Jun 20, 1999 | 7:19 pm
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arturo sey mucho gracias two hes amego, rudi, fore hes post. arturo now go about hilping peepl who wan two be hilped.
Jun 21, 1999 | 3:13 pm
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BOYS AND GIRLS:
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CATMAN: As the esteemed ARTURO states on 6/19/99 -30- means "ET AWL OVR"
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CATMAN: As the esteemed ARTURO states on 6/19/99 -30- means "ET AWL OVR"
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Jun 21, 1999 | 3:37 pm
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What does 30 mean?
30 posts???
Charming... I stepped out of this debate because I'm sorry but I would need more details like what airline, what time, what time you boarded, class of service, what compensation.
If you were physically thrown off I would think at least one of the local news outfits or CNN would pick it up.
They do all the other "air problem" stories.
But as some suggested, I think we should put this thread to rest.
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30 posts???
Charming... I stepped out of this debate because I'm sorry but I would need more details like what airline, what time, what time you boarded, class of service, what compensation.
If you were physically thrown off I would think at least one of the local news outfits or CNN would pick it up.
They do all the other "air problem" stories.
But as some suggested, I think we should put this thread to rest.
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MEOW! MEOW! MEOW!!!
Jun 21, 1999 | 6:25 pm
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-30-
Many news releases end with -30- to signify the end of the release. I think it goes back to teletype days so that it was easy to separate messages? Maybe some older news person could fill us in on the origin of the -30- ending for news releases.
Many news releases end with -30- to signify the end of the release. I think it goes back to teletype days so that it was easy to separate messages? Maybe some older news person could fill us in on the origin of the -30- ending for news releases.
Jun 22, 1999 | 9:30 am
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Think the tone/content of your 6/18/99 post actually led to the rapid demise of this thread- not just a failure to provide details! You may want to try to avoid such unnecessary confrontation in the future- particularly with folks who try to help! Sorry and good luck resolving your situation!