Cityjet dub-lcy-dub
Apr 2, 2015, 12:17 pm
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Cityjet dub-lcy-dub
DUB-LCY-DUB
Booking and check in
Dublin London City is a route I hadnt flown for some time, however as it was close to a number of relatives we planned to visit it was far more convenient than either LGW or LHR. The route is served by FlyBe, BA, & Cityjet.
Cityjets schedule suited us best, so decided to give them a try. Their website is easy to navigate, and we made our booking. This being my first Cityjet booking (since 2000), I needed to add all my (and that of Mrs.J.) personal details into the site. I was pleased to note that the basic fares include one checked bag. I was less pleased to find that when I tried to select our seats and check in online that the system could not find my booking.
I took two emails and several days before I received a generic response telling me that these operations could only be carried out 30 hours pre-flight. My queries as to whether I could purchase fast track security and lounge access remained unanswered, as did my subsequent letter. Not the best example of customer service.
Through the Dublin Airport website, I arranged (4 days) car parking close to Terminal 1, lounge access and fast track security for a very reasonable 73Euro.
Dublin Airport
The day before departure, I checked in online and printed boarding passes. I was pleased to note that the boarding passes included the instruction to use the self service bag drop at the airport.
We arrived at 7.00am for the 09.30am departure, and sought the self service bag drop..there didnt seem to be any such facility, so we went to the check-in desks..which were closed.
Cityjet do not open their desks until 07.40am, which meant kicking our heels for over half an hour. With the many urgings to departing passengers to arrive early at the airport, it is a little strange to encounter a policy which encourages the opposite.
When the desks opened we were dealt with by a very pleasant agent (Sky Handling Partner is Cityjets handling agent) who was very surprised to see the instruction on our passes to use the self service bag drop, which is non existent in Dublin Airport.
We then proceeded to security, and using Fast track, we were airside within a couple of minutes.
Lounge (Dublin)
The Dublin Airport Authority lounge is very close to the Fast Track security lane, which is convenient. This lounge is the result of the former BMI Diamond Club and original DAA lounges being merged. It is a very large area, with lots of natural light. However, the views are very restricted. There is a range of Irish, European and USA newspapers, with a small range of magazines. There are many seats, and a business centre for those needing to work. There is complimentary wi-fi for all lounge guests.
The food on offer consisted of:
Fresh fruit
Cereals
Pastries
Brown bread
Cheese
Crackers
Biscuits
There is a full bar service, with stern warnings that alcoholic beverages are limited to two per guest!
Restrooms are in the lounge, beside the entrance.
Because of the unexpected delay in checking in, we had about an hour in the lounge before our flight. Considering the light breakfast on offer, and the relaxing atmosphere, it is well worth the entrance fee.
Boarding
Our flight was boarding from gate 213, formerly known as A Pier, and is a few minutes walk from the lounge.
The aircraft was parked close to the gate, and boarded via stairs through front and rear doors.
CityJet operate a fleet of Avro RJ 85 Jets (formerly known as BAE 146). The cabin was impressive with navy leather seats and dark blue carpets. Cabin crew were at both doors, and welcomed passengers on board.
The aircraft is configured 3-3 with the exception of rows 1 &2 (business class) and the rearmost rows (to take account of the narrower body at the rear). There is good pitch and legroom, but the seats are very narrow, and it is difficult to avoid hip and shoulder contact with those in adjoining seats.
Because the wings are attached to the top of the fuselage, the bins above rows 6-9 are shallower than others. Depending on the size of cabin bags, this is something to be aware of.
After announcements for route information, safety, we were airborne quickly, and settled into our seats.
There is a complimentary tea/coffee service with juice/water and a cake bar. The coffee was strong and better than that served in many cafes. It was an unexpected and most welcome touch.
We landed in London City Airport on time. There is a very short taxi to arrivals, and using both doors, passengers deplaned quickly. The baggage hall is literally a few feet from the aircraft. Within a few minutes, bags were on the belt, and it is another short walk to the exit. London Bus services are directly outside, and the Docklands Light Railway to the right of the airport entrance.
We were being met at the airport, and within less than 10 minutes of landing, we were on our way. In this regard, London City Airport is unbeatable.
London City Airport Check in and security
I was anxious to secure more comfortable seats for our return flight, and 30 hours pre-flight, I visited Cityjets website, and selected 16A & 16B. This is close to the rear of the aircraft and is one of three pairs of seats in the 2-3 configured section. I also printed our boarding passes, which came with a barcode (for use at bag drop off and to access security).
We arrived at London City at 6pm for our 7.30pm flight. This time there was an internet bag drop off facility. Staff are close by to assist, and it was a very efficient system: place bag on the machine, scan barcode, affix the printed label on the case, and put it on the belt. Swift, painless and sadly lacking in Dublin Airport.
The security area is quite small compared to other London airports, and was very busy. However due to efficient management, passengers were quickly dealt with. Staff were very vigilant about enforcing the no mobile phone policy, but were very tactful in doing so. After a very short time we were airside, and having had such a positive experience, we were totally unprepared for what we next encountered
The departures area was very crowded. I put this down to it being a busy period, but as time progressed it became apparent that the crowding was due to a large number of delayed flights. It took a while, but we eventually managed to find two spare seats. The area was uncomfortably warm, and it was at least half an hour before the air conditioning began to cool the departures area.
Our flight was scheduled for boarding @ 7.00pm, and as this time approached we saw that it joined the list of delayed flights, with a revised departure time of 8pm.
Quite amazingly, it was not until 7.30pm that the Airport apologised for the overcrowding, which was as a result of many delayed flights that day. No mention was made of the cause of these delays. Given that London City airport attracts a high level of professionals as passengers, surely they deserve to be kept informed a little better?
Both my wife and I felt that London City Airport failed to manage the situation: at the very least asking passengers to remain landside (where there was much less congestion) until nearer their departure time would have gone some way to alleviating the overcrowding. And why not inform passengers earlier that there was a significant level of flight delays? As we learned on our flight, this was due to the discovery of a large WW2 unexploded bomb in South East London. Were we too immature to be told of this?
Flight information screens indicated that our flight was ready for boarding, and we joined a number of other passengers and proceeded towards our gate. This resulted in a queue snaking down a flight of stairs leading to a room beside the runway where we were corralled for a further 15 minutes while the aircraft was being prepared.
The aircraft was identical to that used on the outbound flight. Once boarding began, it was swiftly completed due to both front and rear doors being used. There was ample storage space overhead, despite the flight being almost completely full. Once boarding was complete, the Captain welcomed passengers, apologised for and explained the reason for the delayed departure. I remain baffled as to why this information was withheld from us at the airport.
There was a safety briefing from the cabin crew, and after a short taxi, we were airborne.
In flight service
As well as tea/coffee and water/juice, there was a choice of Red or White wine with a savoury or sweet snack. I opted for a red wine, which was quite pleasant. The cabin crew were friendly and efficient at serving and clearing rubbish. Our landing was smooth, and we parked beside the old A Pier.
Baggage was swiftly delivered, and we were landside with minimal delay.
Conclusion
London City Airport has a great arrivals experience, with excellent transport connections to Central London: from aircraft to DLR is barely a couple of minutes walk. I was less impressed with the departure experience, but in all fairness it would be wrong to be over critical on foot of one bad experience.
I have mixed views about Cityjet: the seats are very narrow, and the lack of shoulder and hip room is a pity. Yet the seat pitch and leg room exceed many other A320 & B737 configurations. Cabin service is excellent.
However, the late opening of check in desks and lack of the promised bag drop facility in Dublin Airport is disappointing. Of even more concern is the failure of Cityjet to reply to my letter and emails. This cavalier attitude to customer care is unforgivable in a competitive environment.
Would I fly into London City Airport again? Most definitely.
Would I fly Cityjet again? Im not suremaybe BA & Flybe deserve a chance.
Booking and check in
Dublin London City is a route I hadnt flown for some time, however as it was close to a number of relatives we planned to visit it was far more convenient than either LGW or LHR. The route is served by FlyBe, BA, & Cityjet.
Cityjets schedule suited us best, so decided to give them a try. Their website is easy to navigate, and we made our booking. This being my first Cityjet booking (since 2000), I needed to add all my (and that of Mrs.J.) personal details into the site. I was pleased to note that the basic fares include one checked bag. I was less pleased to find that when I tried to select our seats and check in online that the system could not find my booking.
I took two emails and several days before I received a generic response telling me that these operations could only be carried out 30 hours pre-flight. My queries as to whether I could purchase fast track security and lounge access remained unanswered, as did my subsequent letter. Not the best example of customer service.
Through the Dublin Airport website, I arranged (4 days) car parking close to Terminal 1, lounge access and fast track security for a very reasonable 73Euro.
Dublin Airport
The day before departure, I checked in online and printed boarding passes. I was pleased to note that the boarding passes included the instruction to use the self service bag drop at the airport.
We arrived at 7.00am for the 09.30am departure, and sought the self service bag drop..there didnt seem to be any such facility, so we went to the check-in desks..which were closed.
Cityjet do not open their desks until 07.40am, which meant kicking our heels for over half an hour. With the many urgings to departing passengers to arrive early at the airport, it is a little strange to encounter a policy which encourages the opposite.
When the desks opened we were dealt with by a very pleasant agent (Sky Handling Partner is Cityjets handling agent) who was very surprised to see the instruction on our passes to use the self service bag drop, which is non existent in Dublin Airport.
We then proceeded to security, and using Fast track, we were airside within a couple of minutes.
Lounge (Dublin)
The Dublin Airport Authority lounge is very close to the Fast Track security lane, which is convenient. This lounge is the result of the former BMI Diamond Club and original DAA lounges being merged. It is a very large area, with lots of natural light. However, the views are very restricted. There is a range of Irish, European and USA newspapers, with a small range of magazines. There are many seats, and a business centre for those needing to work. There is complimentary wi-fi for all lounge guests.
The food on offer consisted of:
Fresh fruit
Cereals
Pastries
Brown bread
Cheese
Crackers
Biscuits
There is a full bar service, with stern warnings that alcoholic beverages are limited to two per guest!
Restrooms are in the lounge, beside the entrance.
Because of the unexpected delay in checking in, we had about an hour in the lounge before our flight. Considering the light breakfast on offer, and the relaxing atmosphere, it is well worth the entrance fee.
Boarding
Our flight was boarding from gate 213, formerly known as A Pier, and is a few minutes walk from the lounge.
The aircraft was parked close to the gate, and boarded via stairs through front and rear doors.
CityJet operate a fleet of Avro RJ 85 Jets (formerly known as BAE 146). The cabin was impressive with navy leather seats and dark blue carpets. Cabin crew were at both doors, and welcomed passengers on board.
The aircraft is configured 3-3 with the exception of rows 1 &2 (business class) and the rearmost rows (to take account of the narrower body at the rear). There is good pitch and legroom, but the seats are very narrow, and it is difficult to avoid hip and shoulder contact with those in adjoining seats.
Because the wings are attached to the top of the fuselage, the bins above rows 6-9 are shallower than others. Depending on the size of cabin bags, this is something to be aware of.
After announcements for route information, safety, we were airborne quickly, and settled into our seats.
There is a complimentary tea/coffee service with juice/water and a cake bar. The coffee was strong and better than that served in many cafes. It was an unexpected and most welcome touch.
We landed in London City Airport on time. There is a very short taxi to arrivals, and using both doors, passengers deplaned quickly. The baggage hall is literally a few feet from the aircraft. Within a few minutes, bags were on the belt, and it is another short walk to the exit. London Bus services are directly outside, and the Docklands Light Railway to the right of the airport entrance.
We were being met at the airport, and within less than 10 minutes of landing, we were on our way. In this regard, London City Airport is unbeatable.
London City Airport Check in and security
I was anxious to secure more comfortable seats for our return flight, and 30 hours pre-flight, I visited Cityjets website, and selected 16A & 16B. This is close to the rear of the aircraft and is one of three pairs of seats in the 2-3 configured section. I also printed our boarding passes, which came with a barcode (for use at bag drop off and to access security).
We arrived at London City at 6pm for our 7.30pm flight. This time there was an internet bag drop off facility. Staff are close by to assist, and it was a very efficient system: place bag on the machine, scan barcode, affix the printed label on the case, and put it on the belt. Swift, painless and sadly lacking in Dublin Airport.
The security area is quite small compared to other London airports, and was very busy. However due to efficient management, passengers were quickly dealt with. Staff were very vigilant about enforcing the no mobile phone policy, but were very tactful in doing so. After a very short time we were airside, and having had such a positive experience, we were totally unprepared for what we next encountered
The departures area was very crowded. I put this down to it being a busy period, but as time progressed it became apparent that the crowding was due to a large number of delayed flights. It took a while, but we eventually managed to find two spare seats. The area was uncomfortably warm, and it was at least half an hour before the air conditioning began to cool the departures area.
Our flight was scheduled for boarding @ 7.00pm, and as this time approached we saw that it joined the list of delayed flights, with a revised departure time of 8pm.
Quite amazingly, it was not until 7.30pm that the Airport apologised for the overcrowding, which was as a result of many delayed flights that day. No mention was made of the cause of these delays. Given that London City airport attracts a high level of professionals as passengers, surely they deserve to be kept informed a little better?
Both my wife and I felt that London City Airport failed to manage the situation: at the very least asking passengers to remain landside (where there was much less congestion) until nearer their departure time would have gone some way to alleviating the overcrowding. And why not inform passengers earlier that there was a significant level of flight delays? As we learned on our flight, this was due to the discovery of a large WW2 unexploded bomb in South East London. Were we too immature to be told of this?
Flight information screens indicated that our flight was ready for boarding, and we joined a number of other passengers and proceeded towards our gate. This resulted in a queue snaking down a flight of stairs leading to a room beside the runway where we were corralled for a further 15 minutes while the aircraft was being prepared.
The aircraft was identical to that used on the outbound flight. Once boarding began, it was swiftly completed due to both front and rear doors being used. There was ample storage space overhead, despite the flight being almost completely full. Once boarding was complete, the Captain welcomed passengers, apologised for and explained the reason for the delayed departure. I remain baffled as to why this information was withheld from us at the airport.
There was a safety briefing from the cabin crew, and after a short taxi, we were airborne.
In flight service
As well as tea/coffee and water/juice, there was a choice of Red or White wine with a savoury or sweet snack. I opted for a red wine, which was quite pleasant. The cabin crew were friendly and efficient at serving and clearing rubbish. Our landing was smooth, and we parked beside the old A Pier.
Baggage was swiftly delivered, and we were landside with minimal delay.
Conclusion
London City Airport has a great arrivals experience, with excellent transport connections to Central London: from aircraft to DLR is barely a couple of minutes walk. I was less impressed with the departure experience, but in all fairness it would be wrong to be over critical on foot of one bad experience.
I have mixed views about Cityjet: the seats are very narrow, and the lack of shoulder and hip room is a pity. Yet the seat pitch and leg room exceed many other A320 & B737 configurations. Cabin service is excellent.
However, the late opening of check in desks and lack of the promised bag drop facility in Dublin Airport is disappointing. Of even more concern is the failure of Cityjet to reply to my letter and emails. This cavalier attitude to customer care is unforgivable in a competitive environment.
Would I fly into London City Airport again? Most definitely.
Would I fly Cityjet again? Im not suremaybe BA & Flybe deserve a chance.
Apr 3, 2015, 3:44 pm
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I struggle that it is now almost considered normal to have to turn up for a very short flight 2.5 hrs before departure..... And am a happy user of LCY where I can still rock up 45 mins before take off and get away..... If you want a 2+2 config with ok ish or very good seat pitch then BA Cityflyer on their E170 / E195 is the way to go. Thanks for posting.
Apr 3, 2015, 4:13 pm
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