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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 1:13 am
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So, I only started flying in 1995 - so a relative newby. For others who never experienced aviation first hand, "back in the day", the Museum of flight in Seattle gives an interesting perspective:
  • Inside, Concorde feels like an RJ - without the F seats at the front !
  • The old 60s Airforce 1 is particularly unimpressive on the comfort front.
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 9:37 am
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That's another thing. I seem to remember that on older flights - you were always able to get up and walk around. Yeah there was occasionally a bit of turbulence, but by and large flights were quite smooth. IT seems today flying has become quite a bumpy experience. Of the last 4 or 5 flights I have taken, I would say over half of them spend a large portion of the flight with the seat belt signs on and the plane bouncing around. I am not sure this is the airlines fault, but it is something that has changed. So has, for that matter, how clear it seems to be when looking out the windows.
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 9:46 am
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Originally Posted by LHR/MEL/Europe FF

I am thinking that the longest flights in the early 80's would have been the LAX to LHRs and similar. Even Qantas (without the SP) had to stop in HNL between Australia and the US. BA's timetable from 1990 still lists flights to NRT as being via ANC (but does show F class now as 62' sleepers on the 747-200 and -400, with the L10 and DC10 still numbering about 20 in their fleet).
Well, there would have been those SAA 747SP-s flying all around Africa...
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 3:43 pm
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Originally Posted by chornedsnorkack
Well, there would have been those SAA 747SP-s flying all around Africa...
yes - my posts were excluding the SPs which were able to do the SYD-SFO and SYD-LAXs non stop. I'm not sure if the SPs were ever configured for 'high-density' first class?

A bit more research last night showed Alitalia was flying 11 and 12 hour sectors in their 747-200s in 1990, including Rome to Rio. But Rome to Tokyo (6 x a week) was either via Moscow or Delhi.

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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 3:51 pm
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Those seats did have a lousy pitch! With the pax in front reclining into you.
The lounges would have given some respite, I suppose............?
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 8:26 am
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Originally Posted by LHR/MEL/Europe FF
yes - my posts were excluding the SPs which were able to do the SYD-SFO and SYD-LAXs non stop. I'm not sure if the SPs were ever configured for 'high-density' first class?
Then how were they configured?

There was no business class before Qantas and Pan Am invented it in 1979-1980 or so. I think that SP-s appeared before this.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 11:37 am
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Originally Posted by chornedsnorkack
Then how were they configured?

There was no business class before Qantas and Pan Am invented it in 1979-1980 or so. I think that SP-s appeared before this.
Wasn't business class invented by KLM?
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 1:54 pm
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Originally Posted by Flyingfox
Those seats did have a lousy pitch
I have a memory as a child of flying to England with my family in the early-to-mid seventies. I distinctly recall my kid-brother sleeping on the floor on the overnight flight, at my parent's feet, in a sea of pillows. This means there was definitely enough legroom on the flight for him to pull this off.

This would have been in economy class, likely on an Air Canada Tristar.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 1:57 pm
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Interesting insight into air travel as I don't remeber anything from my very first years of life.
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