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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 2:50 pm
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What? Nobody speaks French in YYC?
Well, I do.

(Incidentally, this was on a BOS-YOW flight. Kind of far from here.)
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 2:56 pm
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Originally Posted by tcook052
What? Nobody speaks French in YYC?
NOPE
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 3:24 pm
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Originally Posted by YVR72
Seriously though, has the use of cell phones really been determined to be a problem?
I suspect not, but does that actually matter? Should this sort of thing really be a matter of individual judgment?

In any case, I see this sort of thing all the time. Look around the J cabin during final descent and watch the all hands leap to their buzzing BlackBerries.
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 3:39 pm
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Originally Posted by YVR72
Seriously though, has the use of cell phones really been determined to be a problem?
I suspect not, but does that actually matter? Should this sort of thing really be a matter of individual judgment?

In any case, I see this sort of thing all the time. Look around the J cabin during final descent and watch the all hands leap to their buzzing BlackBerries.
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 3:55 pm
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My point is not that these devices are harmless, but rather that it shouldn't be up to individuals to decide for themselves where they stand on an issue like this.

But they do. It's the "question authority" generation after all. If it's inconvenient, we don't believe it.
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 8:49 pm
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Originally Posted by YVR72
Seriously though, has the use of cell phones really been determined to be a problem?
If you are seated close to the person the answer is absolutely.
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 10:51 am
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i watched a guy do this catty corner/across the aisle from me on a flight a few days ago. his blackberry was ON (blinking light) and he was scrolling, typing, etc. as we started take-off. again, without getting into whether or not it's really dangerous, those are the rules, dude. i didn't do anything other than stare--like the op, fa's were strapped into jump seats already so couldn't see him--and he did eventually put the damn thing in his pocket as we took off...but clearly, he didn't feel the rules applied to him, and that's the kind of thing that drives me bananas.

i contemplated saying something after the fact to the fa, but that seemed like a page from a kindergarten handbook (see: tattling) so other than shoot him dirty looks from time to time, i did nothing. if he'd been sitting next to me, or even directly across i might have said something, but i was in 3a and he was in 2b, so it would have been really awkward. just annoys me how some folks feel they're sooo special.
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 11:14 am
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Originally Posted by Stranger
What to do if a passenger seated close to you starts using his cell phone while in the air?
Say loudly, "Sir, in seat XX, please turn your phone off NOW." If you're speaking in a loud, commanding tone that a lot of other people around you can hear, the shaming factor has great power. I do this when provoked on the Amtrak Quiet Car, and it works like a charm. If the offender has no compunction about endangering his/her fellow passengers (or just breaking the rules in extremely irritating fashion), then you shouldn't feel bad about speaking as if you're disciplining a three-year-old.
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 11:43 am
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Just make the other passengers aware that this person is using his/her electronics while they are supposed to be turned off. Also, complain to the FA and note that you're afraid for your safety. If the guy insists on doing it, ask to make a formal complaint with the police at the airport where you are landing.

As someone said, provided that you are above 10k feet, BB's do have a no antenna mode and the email is stored on them. You can usually tell if they are active as the light on them will flash when they get new email. Reception is not very good at flight so I doubt anyone would use it to do that once you're above 10k feet. It would only drain the battery and they wouldn't really get a data signal.
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 3:18 pm
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Originally Posted by tcook052
What? Nobody speaks French in YYC?
French? Not likely. Quebecoise? Mais Oui.

There is the courtesy aspect of not using cell phones of course but the real issue re cell phones really concerns the effect it will have on an emergency evacution or other aircraft crisis:
-possibly interfere with others hearing the Cabin crew directions.
-possibly miss the cabin crews directions themselves.
-introduce possible projectiles into the cabin that can kill or seriously injure.
-Maybe the phone doesn't become a projectile. Maybe the user just drops it. I've no doubt, in some evacutions, some folks will actually stoop to find or search for their dropped phone, palm, etc., obstructing peoples path's.
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 4:03 pm
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I've left my cell phone in my carry one stowed in the overhead compartment.

Arrived at the destination, walked off the plane and realized it has been on the whole flight.


The battery was just about dead.

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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 6:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Stranger
FWIW, actually, he was speaking French on the phone.
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 6:35 pm
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Originally Posted by JerseyVics
The battery was just about dead.
Continually trying to get a signal a 30,000 feet through the metal skin of the aircraft tends to do that to a cell phone battery.

FYI, the proposals to put cell service on board would provide a mini-cell tower on the plane, which in turn would cause cell phones to use a lot less power.

For anyone who's interested in the whole "are cell phones dangerous onboard" issue, there are plenty of really long FT threads on the subject. And very little agreement.

But the question in this thread is what to do if someone decides to use their phone in flight. Generally, I point out to them that they're not allowed to use it (as though they just weren't aware -- yeah, right ) and that gets most people to stop. If that didn't work, I'd certainly bring it to the attention of the FA's.
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 7:25 pm
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I think that saying something to the offender might spark retaliation in some form. It may not in most cases, I'd hate for me to be the one statistic.

I have seen people talk/type after the aircraft door has closed and as mentioned before, as the aircraft increases altitude, the signal dies out anyways. You may see a pax that is using their mobile, I am sure there are plenty more that never turn them off. Pick your poison.
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 8:50 pm
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Originally Posted by YVR72
Seriously though, has the use of cell phones really been determined to be a problem? I thought they were considering exclusive agreements with certain mobile providers.
A close friend who flys the A320 for America West told me that cell phones don't cause noticable problems for the pilots unless its someone in the rear of a small aircraft such as a RJ.

From my experience, my T-mobile phone does not even work at cruise altitude.
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