Why the 2 Piece Luggage rule for the Americas?
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US airlines have traditionally allowed 2 pieces of checked luggage, now capped at 50 pounds each. (I'm ignoring additional allowances allowed for those with elite status.) That's 100 pounds, even if flying coach. If a European carrier limited luggage on a US flight to 20kgs or 44 lbs, it would be at a significant competitive disadvantage to a US carrier.
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I don't know if the following is true or not:
http://www.iht.com/articles/2000/05/05/trqa.t.php
Philip Djaferis, senior manager government relations and tariff services at International Air Transport Association in Geneva, says: "U.S. airlines pushed for the piece system with the introduction of the wide-body 747s and DC10a in the early 1970s because it's so much more efficient and faster to handle masses of passengers if you don't have to weigh every bag. I think they were rather hasty and subsequently regretted it. But now the piece system is established as a consumer benefit, the Department of Transportation is loath to allow carriers to go back to the weight system."
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I don't know if the following is true or not: ... http://www.iht.com/articles/2000/05/05/trqa.t.php
I've been trying to research this myself and keep drawing blanks as to the actual reason.
If it's a regulation, it would be great to have a link to it.
I guess this is the sort of thing that goes along the lines of:
Q. Why is it done like that?
A. Because that is the way it's supposed to happen!
Q. Why is that the way it's supposed to happen?
A. Because that's simply the way it's done!
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We routinely check 6 large pieces of baggage to the USA using 1K allowance, as we did this month SYD to DEN:
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/1tunboox.jpg
Usually 4 large boxes and 2 suitcases. I have FedEx collect them from first airport hotel, and let UA pay for 280 pounds of overnight air shipping SYD-DEN, which otherwise runs to near my ticket cost.
And do the reverse on way home.
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Me.
We routinely check 6 large pieces of baggage to the USA using 1K allowance, as we did this month SYD to DEN:
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/1tunboox.jpg
Usually 4 large boxes and 2 suitcases. I have FedEx collect them from first airport hotel, and let UA pay for 280 pounds of overnight air shipping SYD-DEN, which otherwise runs to near my ticket cost.
And do the reverse on way home.
We routinely check 6 large pieces of baggage to the USA using 1K allowance, as we did this month SYD to DEN:
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/1tunboox.jpg
Usually 4 large boxes and 2 suitcases. I have FedEx collect them from first airport hotel, and let UA pay for 280 pounds of overnight air shipping SYD-DEN, which otherwise runs to near my ticket cost.
And do the reverse on way home.
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Such an innocent statement it's almost dare I say... cute.
To get you started, I invite you to watch Philipino, Nigerian, Pakistani and Indian ex-pats standing in a check-in queue the next time you are at an airport. These groups are the experts bar none at pushing the former 70 lbs / 2 pc rules and not paying excess baggage charges.
To get you started, I invite you to watch Philipino, Nigerian, Pakistani and Indian ex-pats standing in a check-in queue the next time you are at an airport. These groups are the experts bar none at pushing the former 70 lbs / 2 pc rules and not paying excess baggage charges.
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I dont think it was meant as a pot shot at Americans!
they arent the only ones who take 100lbs of luggage by any means but they have good reason to on some occasions
1. everything in Europe must seem very expensive,toiletries/clothes etc
2. they can fit several huge suitcases in the trunk of their cars
3. they need the capacity to bring back some good chocolate
For me its great, you can go over with one case between 3 buy the camping gear in the US and bring it back with you at the end of the vacation, its still camping weather here in NJ in October this year, I didnt bring the mosquito spray but I should have crammed it in the luggage as I only made 17kg in one case out of the 3 I am allowed
they arent the only ones who take 100lbs of luggage by any means but they have good reason to on some occasions
1. everything in Europe must seem very expensive,toiletries/clothes etc
2. they can fit several huge suitcases in the trunk of their cars
3. they need the capacity to bring back some good chocolate
For me its great, you can go over with one case between 3 buy the camping gear in the US and bring it back with you at the end of the vacation, its still camping weather here in NJ in October this year, I didnt bring the mosquito spray but I should have crammed it in the luggage as I only made 17kg in one case out of the 3 I am allowed
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I don't think I've ever travelled with more than one checkin bag and one carryon, plus my purse. Of course, with the institution of the one-carryon rule for UK travel, that will be shifted around a bit - my purse will fit into my carryon
I do take a lot in my carryon - video camera, regular camera, all the addons and cords, etc. But I really don't want to carry all that checked luggage from place to place at my destination - from the airport, to each B&B, etc. So I consolidate as much as I can. 7 outfits (wear one), two pairs of shoes (wear one), underwear and a jacket (wear it), and toiletries. That should do it!
I do take a lot in my carryon - video camera, regular camera, all the addons and cords, etc. But I really don't want to carry all that checked luggage from place to place at my destination - from the airport, to each B&B, etc. So I consolidate as much as I can. 7 outfits (wear one), two pairs of shoes (wear one), underwear and a jacket (wear it), and toiletries. That should do it!
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Filipinos & their heavy bags & boxes
To get you started, I invite you to watch Philipino, Nigerian, Pakistani and Indian ex-pats standing in a check-in queue the next time you are at an airport. These groups are the experts bar none at pushing the former 70 lbs / 2 pc rules and not paying excess baggage charges.
Pre-9/11 the joke among the Fil-Am community was that you could tell Filipinos from other Asians at the airport curb due to the fact that they were the ones with the big "balikbayan" boxes.
For Filipinos living abroad, coming home to the Philippines with boxes/bags full of "pasalubong" (gifts) to give out to friends and relatives was a sign that "you've made it in America". Perhaps that's why Northwest has a 70lb per bag limit to/from the Philippines instead of the regular 50lbs.
On a related note, I'll be guilty of flying with 2 70lb suitcases (okay 70 & 72 - they have never weighed bags at MNL (NAIA Terminal 1) in all my years flying) and a 35lb roll-on and my laptop. But this is due to the fact that my years living in MNL are coming to an end and am taking this opportunity to trans-ship my stuff back to NYC without using freight. Nominally I'm heading to NYC for my cousin's wedding though.
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Thanks for all the replies.
So is this regulation of the carriers or policy of individual carriers?
There are variances e.g. Qantas refer to "Itinerary" where the USA flights can be on a separate booking/PNR to one's Qantas flights, while other carriers seem to imply the USA flights need to be on the one PNR (Generally without indicating as such).
So is this regulation of the carriers or policy of individual carriers?
There are variances e.g. Qantas refer to "Itinerary" where the USA flights can be on a separate booking/PNR to one's Qantas flights, while other carriers seem to imply the USA flights need to be on the one PNR (Generally without indicating as such).
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I don't think it's a regulation per se, just that it's the USA industry standard.
It's always been my understanding that if a PNR included US flights that a higher allowance applies to the whole itinerary.
Didn't know about QF, but I know Aer Lingus has something similar, in that if fly them transatlantic, any EI flight two weeks prior/post will allow the higher limit on a seperate tickets. Just show them your transatlantic e-ticket.
It's always been my understanding that if a PNR included US flights that a higher allowance applies to the whole itinerary.
Didn't know about QF, but I know Aer Lingus has something similar, in that if fly them transatlantic, any EI flight two weeks prior/post will allow the higher limit on a seperate tickets. Just show them your transatlantic e-ticket.
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