Not sure whether to put this here or in OMNI...move if necessary.

I am a 56 YO male and have never smoked. Never tried it. I think smokers have the right to practice their activity as long as it doesn't bother others, just like parents, religious people and farters...

I am working in FL for a couple of months and have stayed in the same hotel in five different rooms in the past two months, all non-smoking rooms. Three of these rooms have cigarette burns on the marble counter top in the bathroom. Maybe they are second hand tops, maybe not.

My question is: what makes smokers smoke in a non-smoking room? I'm not criticizing, I'd just like to know. Is it too far to walk? Inconsiderate? Don't think it matters?

The hotel has a new sign that says if you smoke in a non-smoking room they'll charge you $100. Not sure how they would know for sure it was you, but...

I fear this will start some kind of urinating contest, but I really am curious as to what leads people to just disregard this particular rule. We can deal with carry-on luggage some other time...

I can't speak for others but I don't smoke in non-smoking rooms. Even though I am a smoker I always request a non-smoking room (for habit and I don't smoke in my own house), but I always go outside and do my business. I don't know why anybody wouldn't go outside and do it esp. in a nice warm environment as FL. If it was freezing cold then maybe I could see why. Sorry I couldn't give you more enlightenment.

What, pray tell, is that supposed to mean, especially as to "parents" and "religious people"?

dd992emo, enough of the high horse bull.......

It's probably because the room used to be a smoking room.

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Quite often, it's because, despite requesting a smoking room and having it confirmed at check-in, a smoker will find themselves in a non-smoking room. Then, when they call reception to ask why they're in a non-smoking room, they will be sent up an ashtray (or even told to look in the desk drawer to find one).

This is my experience as well. And oddly enough, I've had more luck finding ashtrays in non-smoking rooms than in smoking rooms!

I don't think the analogy is much of a stretch. I support peoples' right to have and raise kids as long as they don't bug me. I think everyone has the right to practice whatever religion they choose as long as they don't bug me. In both cases, I don't think everyone shares that viewpoint.

dd992emo, enough of the high horse bull.......

Whatever...I thought of the smoking room thing, too, but it's three different rooms on two different floors of a two year old property in FL. As I said, I'm just curious.

I don't smoke in a non-smoking room, however, I will on the balcony.

My real issue is that my profile states I want a smoking room - it's generally confirmed when I make the reservation, and yet, I, more often than not, am put in a non-smoking room. That's my real pet peeve.

Depending upon where you travel, and if those locations have a high incidence of international guests, there's a good chance they're "flipping off" the hotel & it's non-smoking policies. I've been in many non-smoking rooms in Hawaii that have a faint smell of smoke.

I wonder if there are just not that many smoking rooms in a hotel that sometimes they are already taken? Or if you are elite in some program if the upgrades/concierge floors have fewer smoking rooms?

As for the people being upset about the smoking policies I can see that being the case that folks just say hey I am a smoker it is my right. Same thing that happens in rental cars.

This has happened to me more than once. I always call the desk, just to avoid stinking up an otherwise pristine room.

Some times they'll re-book me right away, and other times they just say go ahead and smoke. It sounds funny, but I'm not all that happy with that attitude. If you don't have a smoking room, fine. I'll adjust my activities accordingly.

Just a guess, but non-smokers would be less likely to steal the ashtrays.

Not casting stones. I'm sure smokers and non-smokers are equally likely to steal towels.

I was being facetious when in another thread on the subject of children I said there was nothing wrong with this world that getting rid of all the people in it would not cure. It sounds like you are in earnest about your misanthropy, though.

You "support peoples' right to have and raise kids as long as they don't bug" you, and you "think everyone has the right to practice whatever religion they choose as long as they don't bug" you, and "(i)n both cases, (you) don't think everyone shares that viewpoint."?!?! Pretty liberal (libertarian?) of you to "support peoples' right to have and raise kids" and their "whatever religion they choose," but be advised that here in the United States those are basic rights that won't be denied others, whether you are bugged by their exercise of them or not.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...939680,00.html

An interesting take on smoking in the UK.

It's not always because a smoker has been unexpectedly stuck in a non-smoking room or that a room used to be smoking. We have taken 47 Disney cruises, and everyone who sails knows up front that ALL staterooms on the Disney ships are non-smoking and have been ever since the ships were launched. In verandah rooms, smokers can smoke on the balcony, but that's it. In all those cruises, I've been in many rooms all over the ship, and sadly, many have cigarette burns in the woodwork and elsewhere...even rooms with a verandah! That's just plain rude in my viewpoint. You know the rules up front...abide by them or take another cruise line. It's even worse when the person was apparently too lazy to step out onto their verandah and chose to burn the woodwork instead.