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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 3:46 pm
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Originally Posted by hfly
I've never gone overland to CAmbodia, only byplane. In any case while I understand the principle of not wanting to overpay for a visa, the prospect of not having to spend an extra day or two dealing/going to/fr an Embassy and dealing with the lines, bureaucracy etc. would be far outweighed by a possible $5 overpay at the border.
Like I said, for me it was a matter of principle. In my case it didn't matter because I was working in Singapore at the time anyway. Still, the process is pretty straightforward there. I think there was even a same-day service available, but this one required serious cash - not worth it.
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 6:19 pm
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Actually the China limit on US citizens for the last two years has been 6 month visas, not 90 days, again its best to do in Hong Kong (or Macao) rather than anywhere else as the documentation required is less, and the turn around time much faster. Indonesia should ALWAYS be done on arrival, unless you need a longer duration as the VOA is valid for a month.
6 months was what my wife was trying to get and the official wouldn't consider. Note that it was *NOT* a language problem--we were in her hometown.
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 6:45 pm
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Check out this page on the Delta airlines website. I find it fantastic to help me with visa planning etc.

http://www.delta.com/travel/plan/int...info/index.jsp
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 7:04 pm
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Originally Posted by MapleLeaf
Check out this page on the Delta airlines website. I find it fantastic to help me with visa planning etc.

http://www.delta.com/travel/plan/int...info/index.jsp
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 7:06 pm
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Regarding Chinese visas, I really don't know what to say. For most of the last decade until about a year and a half ago I normally got 1 year visas for China. Because of the spat between China and the US, last October or so, I was informed that I could only get 6 months max, which I have gotten about every six months or so since then. I just recently got another 6 month one, so I know definately 100% that this is the case. Judging from your original comments however, do I take it that your wife may be of Chinese origin and this may have played some part in the shortened timespan they offered?
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 11:15 pm
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Originally Posted by hfly
Having dealt with visa waits/lines at consulates/emabasies and on arrival in Indonesia, I can CATEGORICALLY STATE that the wait that one experiences on ariva; is infinitely less than one will experience at an embassy or consulate (You can wait four hours at a embassy/consulate on two seperate days, while the biggest wait I have ever seen on arrival is perhaps 20-30 minutes). 747, you are right, however I have the impression that the guy isn't taking a bus or Cessna from PNG to Irian Jaya.
Hmm, I was at Jakarta's airport five days ago and the line for the visa on arrival seemed significantly longer than any I've seen at a consulate/embassy. Guess one just has to time it right...
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 11:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Tad's Broiled Steaks
Hmm, I was at Jakarta's airport five days ago and the line for the visa on arrival seemed significantly longer than any I've seen at a consulate/embassy. Guess one just has to time it right...
The only upside is that by the time you clear the VOA line, your checked luggage should be sitting in some corner of the baggage claim hall gathering dust, assuming some friendly porter or official airport worker hasn't already gone through your stuff and helped himself to your emergency stash of M&Ms in the front pocket.
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 11:53 pm
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If you plan to go to Vietnam and then Cambodia and back to Vietnam, which I did this summer, you must get a multi-entry visa or you will have to pay for another visa like I did. This cost me an extra $195.00 for my wife, daughter, and me. You might ask why would you renenter Vietnam. If you are in Ho Chi Mihn City in the south, you will want to visit Siem Reap, Cambodia before going to Hanoi in the north. On arrival in Cambodia we had to pay $20.00 each for the visa and around $25.00 each for the exit tax when we left.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 12:01 am
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Originally Posted by THECLIPPERS
If you plan to go to Vietnam and then Cambodia and back to Vietnam, which I did this summer, you must get a multi-entry visa or you will have to pay for another visa like I did. This cost me an extra $195.00 for my wife, daughter, and me. You might ask why would you renenter Vietnam. If you are in Ho Chi Mihn City in the south, you will want to visit Siem Reap, Cambodia before going to Hanoi in the north. On arrival in Cambodia we had to pay $20.00 each for the visa and around $25.00 each for the exit tax when we left.
Have a great trip.
You could have saved $100 by going to the Vietnam Airlines office in Siem Reap. They would have processed single-entry visas for you in three days for ~$20 each, or for $50 per head you could have gotten same/next day service.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 1:06 am
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Originally Posted by THECLIPPERS
If you plan to go to Vietnam and then Cambodia and back to Vietnam, which I did this summer, you must get a multi-entry visa or you will have to pay for another visa like I did. This cost me an extra $195.00 for my wife, daughter, and me. You might ask why would you renenter Vietnam. If you are in Ho Chi Mihn City in the south, you will want to visit Siem Reap, Cambodia before going to Hanoi in the north. On arrival in Cambodia we had to pay $20.00 each for the visa and around $25.00 each for the exit tax when we left.
Have a great trip.
The $25 tax is only applicable when leaving the country by air. You don't pay this on ground transportation, which is why I suggested flying into Cambodia (to avoid border touts and visa bribes, big problem along the Thai border, not to mention the diabolical road from Poipet to Siem Reap) and then continuing on by land.

BTW, since no one has mentioned them yet, check out www.talesofasia.com - an invaluable source of information for trips to Cambodia and its neighbors.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 3:10 am
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The wait for a visa at the Indonesian Embassy in Singapore is a MINIMUM of 6 hours, you mean to tell me that VOA has taken you longer than this?
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 3:42 am
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Originally Posted by hfly
The wait for a visa at the Indonesian Embassy in Singapore is a MINIMUM of 6 hours, you mean to tell me that VOA has taken you longer than this?
sounds like you should stop going to Singapore for your Indonesian visa
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 4:12 am
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Originally Posted by Tad's Broiled Steaks
Hmm, I was at Jakarta's airport five days ago and the line for the visa on arrival seemed significantly longer than any I've seen at a consulate/embassy. Guess one just has to time it right...
Going into Denpasar airport (Bali) a couple of weeks ago, there was also a huge line for VOAs, but it was moving along at a pretty good clip. I would say maybe a 10-15 minute wait with three fully loaded widebodies (a 777, a 767 and an A330) arriving simultaneously. I think that's reasonable, considering I've had a longer wait than that at JFK off a single 747 (though also fully loaded).

As long as you're not entering Indonesia at some obscure place, VOA is definitely the way to go.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 9:28 am
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Originally Posted by hfly
Regarding Chinese visas, I really don't know what to say. For most of the last decade until about a year and a half ago I normally got 1 year visas for China. Because of the spat between China and the US, last October or so, I was informed that I could only get 6 months max, which I have gotten about every six months or so since then. I just recently got another 6 month one, so I know definately 100% that this is the case. Judging from your original comments however, do I take it that your wife may be of Chinese origin and this may have played some part in the shortened timespan they offered?
Were you perhaps getting business visas? We weren't.

Yes, she is of Chinese origin. All they would offer us is the standard tourist visa. Elsewhere I have read that the longer visas are available only to those with ties like owning property there--but we do own property there (the condo her parents live in.)

P.S. Her immigrating to America had everything to do with love and nothing to do with politics.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 3:01 pm
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I wasn't implying that it was! The visa I just got was nominally a business one, however the last two I got (since the changes) were more general ones. I think it has to do with her lineage. As for the IND visa in SIN, it was not for me, but for my wife for whom VOA is not applicable (mine was VOA that trip which took less than 30 seconds on that trip, even hitting CGK in the past at the same time as two other heavies, I have never had a wait of more than 20 mins).
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