I dont know if this is the right forum so moderator please move to appropriate. BUT
Just got off a first AA EWR_LAX.
half way through a very fowl smell whaffed over the cabin. a girl then promptly got up and said the dog had done it. and proceeded to go to the only first toilet for about 15 mins.
NOW I love dogs in their place but really is it appropriate for a dog to fowl first class.
Hey did he pay the full fare?
opinions please.
should I complain?

while we are at it.
how about the eco pax putting their goods in the first lockers in full view of the FAs and then the Fas taking goods off arriving first pax as the plane is too full and then the first pax not having anywhere to put their goods.

Wow I do know i will get flamed for this!

The moderator will move this to Travelbuzz cuz it has nothing to do w/ MilesBuzz.

Are dogs allowed in any class? Yes, if they fit certain criteria & a fee is paid. In F, definitely cuz anyone willing to pay F full fare can normally afford the dog fare. BTW - these are usually tiny dogs. Can an owner control a dog going to the bathroom (supposedly in its case)? No. Might it happen on a flight? Yes. 15 minutes in the loo to fix it - maybe a bit much. BTW - what's worse - the dog or the F passenger who allows their (paid F class) kids to run around & bother all the other passengers? At least the dog is a dog & doesn't have an option.

Re: the luggage being left in F when someone is in C. Lots of threads on Travelbuzz on that. Dump the stuff - revolt - don't let the E folk win

PS - Tinky, sandiego1k says I have to meet you if I'm ever in Oz, so will let you know. Do the same if you get to LA. Cheers.

Sharon

If it was a "fowl" smell I'm guessing the source was a chicken, not a dog...

Definitely not MilesBuzz material.

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Tinkybelle

I have taken that exact flight with my dog - this was when I was moving from NYC to LA. The dog fee on AA (at least then) was $80 one way. And trust me this was not the only time I travelled with my dog - as I travelled often from NYC to LA to visit my (then) girlfriend before moving to LA. Almost every time, none of the pax (except possibly my seat neighbour) even knew of a dog being on the flight. Often there would be kids annoying other pax, and only when we stood up to "de-plane" would other notice my dog carrier bag with his head sticking out - and remark they did not even realize there was a dog on board. My dog got around - he went on the subway in NYC with me, he caught NJ Transit. As long as he was with me he was a happy camper. And never did he even come close to making a mess onboard. Mostly because he is a well trained dog and I took precautions before we left and after we landed.

So no I don't think there is anything wrong with a dog in F. If things go wrong it is the owner's fault - just as it is the parents' fault for an obnoxious child.

The rules on AA are that the dog must fit in an approved dog carrier and fit under the seat in front. There are some measurements - see http://www.aa.com/content/travelInfo...horEvent=false for details.

And by the way - the reason I was on a EWR-LAX flight instead of JFK-LAX....AA does not allow pets in premium cabins on wide body jets (ie 767 and 777 - and all JFK-LAX services are 767). So I had to settle for F on a 757 instead of a 767 - the sacrifices we make for our pets

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Just as long as none of those f/c pax crossed the border illegally and tried to use the <gasp> coach lavatory......

*poof*

You know, Paris Hilton's little dog is named Tinkerbell.

My dog has never flown coach.

And he's never 'gone' onboard, either. Nor does bark. Flying SEA-DTW about a week and a half back he did get a little restless and scratched at his carrying case for a minute or two.

He's hypoallergenic and well bathed, so he's really not a bother to other pax.

I wouldn't say it's the owners fault if a dog poops in its box enroute somewhere. It's just one of those things that happens, dogs need to poop just as much as the rest of us. The fact it was in first class must have been irritating to the other passengers but then rather that than down the back where I sit

I tend to disagree. We've done big-time travel with our dog-he's on his 10th international trip right now. And we have gone to extreme measures to allow for his being with us.

We knew from the start that we wanted to travel with him so we trained him to have several "pit stops" per day, but not to have continuous access to places to go. Thus, he now has no trouble waiting several hours for the next "break".

When we fly, a few days before we begin putting him in his Sherpa bag for an hour or so. Two reasons-so he gets used to it again, and also it signals him to go into "flight mode". Often, just letting your pet know what's happening will let him/her try to go along.

We get to the airport at least 2 hours ahead, check-in, then find some grass as best we can and walk him around until he's really tired and drained. By the time we get to the gate, he's beat and just wants to get into his bag and go to sleep.

We also do not book him for more than 1 flight a day. So when going to Europe, we stop for a night on the East Coast to give him a break.

So, should our dog be in First Class? Well, several times as we landed in Europe, a fellow passenger has noticed that he's with us. And more than once, they have asked "Has he been here for the whole flight?". I am always tempted to say "No, he got on over Greenland" but the truth is, he's been trained to be a good passenger. And truly "First Class".

While different breds bring different factors, I think the biggest variable is the owner.

I concur with most of the above posts. Never had a problem with dogs--or cats--or other pets in first class or in steerage.

I do, however, have a problem with "fowl" on the plane. These birds just can NOT be trained to keep their excrement and other smells to themselves. I'd only suggest to keep the roosters in the hold.

There is/was a United employee commuting from IAD to down south somewhere (I forget where), and she always travels with her dog and of course sits in F.

Vets will tell pet owerns if you ahve to travel with your wonderful darling cats or with dogs it's important to limit their food intake the night before travel.

a little water and that's about it.

I've traveled a few times with Yaz and Eddie. ONLY FIRST CLASS. (on United, their purrferred carrier.) Never a problem with them or with most of the passengers (except one woman who smelled of too much perfume and made Yaz nautious.)

Sorry we don't ahve a "Travel with Pets" forum for something like this (although I understand why it was voted down.)

I missed that-why was it voted down?