DOGS in First class?
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Fowl Aboard
Originally Posted by hnechets
I do, however, have a problem with "fowl" on the plane. 

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Am I the only FTer who's allergic to pets? I don't care about the noise or smell. I do have a problem breathing around dogs and cats, and minor problem with itchy eyes, hives and general irritation.
If they can remove peanut butter from school cafeterias because one student has peanut allergies, why can't dogs and cats be relegated to the baggage hold? After all, they're animals, not people. (donning flameproof armor).
Thank God horses can't fly in the passenger cabin.
If they can remove peanut butter from school cafeterias because one student has peanut allergies, why can't dogs and cats be relegated to the baggage hold? After all, they're animals, not people. (donning flameproof armor).
Thank God horses can't fly in the passenger cabin.
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Originally Posted by BamaVol
Am I the only FTer who's allergic to pets? I don't care about the noise or smell. I do have a problem breathing around dogs and cats, and minor problem with itchy eyes, hives and general irritation.
If they can remove peanut butter from school cafeterias because one student has peanut allergies, why can't dogs and cats be relegated to the baggage hold? After all, they're animals, not people. (donning flameproof armor).
Thank God horses can't fly in the passenger cabin.
If they can remove peanut butter from school cafeterias because one student has peanut allergies, why can't dogs and cats be relegated to the baggage hold? After all, they're animals, not people. (donning flameproof armor).
Thank God horses can't fly in the passenger cabin.
Dogs and other animals are banned from restaurants in many parts of the world. Why should a flight be different?
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Originally Posted by BamaVol
Am I the only FTer who's allergic to pets? I don't care about the noise or smell. I do have a problem breathing around dogs and cats, and minor problem with itchy eyes, hives and general irritation.
If they can remove peanut butter from school cafeterias because one student has peanut allergies, why can't dogs and cats be relegated to the baggage hold?
If they can remove peanut butter from school cafeterias because one student has peanut allergies, why can't dogs and cats be relegated to the baggage hold?
I guess the question remains whether passengers have a right to fly allergy-free. How would you go about doing that?
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Originally Posted by Analise
I guess the question remains whether passengers have a right to fly allergy-free. How would you go about doing that?
It is commercial travel. There are many things (children, flight attendants, seatmates, loud talkers, cell phones, pets, ad nauseum) that you will find annoying or with which you will have some other problem like an allergic reaction.
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Originally Posted by Analise
But don't you have medication you can take to alleviate the allergic reactions? You never know when you might be near dogs or cats especially when outside.
I guess the question remains whether passengers have a right to fly allergy-free. How would you go about doing that?
I guess the question remains whether passengers have a right to fly allergy-free. How would you go about doing that?
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Originally Posted by Analise
But don't you have medication you can take to alleviate the allergic reactions? You never know when you might be near dogs or cats especially when outside.
I guess the question remains whether passengers have a right to fly allergy-free. How would you go about doing that?
I guess the question remains whether passengers have a right to fly allergy-free. How would you go about doing that?
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Hmm, my read of the mess was not that the dog made a mess. Rather, there was an odor (aka "flatulence") that the girl blamed on the dog. Then the girl, not the dog, went into the restroom for 15 minutes.
Not an uncommon occurrence to falsely blame the dog in these instances.
That said, I am looking forward to the day when the airlines have a way for owners and dogs to ride together on a plane, be it in a separate cabin or elsewhere. Then I will actually begin to take my dogs on trips.
Not an uncommon occurrence to falsely blame the dog in these instances.
That said, I am looking forward to the day when the airlines have a way for owners and dogs to ride together on a plane, be it in a separate cabin or elsewhere. Then I will actually begin to take my dogs on trips.
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Originally Posted by Hoc
Hmm, my read of the mess was not that the dog made a mess. Rather, there was an odor (aka "flatulence") that the girl blamed on the dog. Then the girl, not the dog, went into the restroom for 15 minutes.
Not an uncommon occurrence to falsely blame the dog in these instances.
Not an uncommon occurrence to falsely blame the dog in these instances.
Was it a "fowl" odor because the passenger ate chicken for dinner?
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Originally Posted by phb
The issue is more complex than that. An aircraft cabin is an enclosed space with limited air flow and you may not have a choice as to seating. Also the allergens from a cat or dog will persist after the original flight. Certainly the current airline cleaning regimes are unlikely to shift them.
That said, I can sympathise with you and your allergies. I share some mild allergies to cats (never noticed any reaction to dogs, but maybe I just don't realize it). And you are correct, the allergens will probably persist even after the animal has disembarked.
But here's my difficulty with this issue: Disabled people will be able to fly with their service animals whether you like it or not. I have even sat next to individuals and their guide dogs. And, presumably, your allergic reactions are the same to the service animals as to the pets. Since you can't prevent the service animals from flying, why attempt to restrict passengers from bringing pets? You'll itch and sneeze and respond the same no matter the relationship of the animal to their owner (pet or service animal).

Analogies to the peanut allergy appear misplaced to me - I have never known of any pet allergies to be as potentially fatal as allergies to nuts, but I certainly don't know everything.
I'm not happy sitting next to smokers, nor people wearing excessive amounts of perfume/cologne, etc. I would prefer that people on the Continent generally be as meticulous about bathing and body smell as Americans generally are. All have the potential to make me feel ill.

But as others have pointed out, offensive smells are everywhere, even on airplanes.
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Originally Posted by FWAAA
That said, I can sympathise with you and your allergies. I share some mild allergies to cats (never noticed any reaction to dogs, but maybe I just don't realize it).
I know OT but FYI...

