Plan this trip on the cheap
Aug 15, 2001 | 5:04 pm
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Plan this trip on the cheap
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posted 08-14-2001 10:10 AM
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Friend plans to go YYZ-LAS-DFW-YYZ, stopping at each city for a few days.
He consulted Travelocity and Expedia, but they consider the itinienary (sp) as multiple one-way trips, which means "expensive" for him.
So all wise men here, any less expensive way to fly this trip?
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wideman
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posted 08-14-2001 10:20 AM
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One way is to buy 1 YYZ-DFW rt, and buy 1 DFW-LAS rt.
Fly on Thusrday, say, from YYZ-DFW (AA non-stop), then fly DFW-LAS using the first leg of the second ticket. Allow plenty of time for the connection, because you won't be able to check your bags through (if any).
On Monday, fly LAS-DFW, and spend some quality time checking out the cultural highlights of Dallas. (Never mind.) Thusrday, fly back to Toronto.
Hardly ulytra-cheap because fares from Canada to dallas are expensive, but at least it's less than US$700.
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posted 08-14-2001 10:37 AM
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Break this into two itins: one an open jaw with YYZ-LAS outbound and DFW-YYZ inbound. I doubt any single carrier does both these nonstop (well, AC might) so you'll probably be changing planes somewhere on both legs (and if you fly AA your outbound might coincidentally be YYZ-DFW-LAS, although more likely YYZ-ORD-LAS).
Then for the LAS-Dallas leg fly LAS-DAL on Southwest. Because of the Wright amendment you have to buy two separate tickets, most likely for LAS-ABQ and ABQ-DAL. Upside is that WN doesn't hose you on one-way tickets (they cost half a roundtrip). You may be able to get one or both of these legs for a base fare of $30, depending on which markets WN is offering $30 fares between this week. Your friend must be willing to fly WN, of course, and s/he has to line up twice for boarding passes.
Hey, you did ask.
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posted 08-14-2001 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by A380:
Friend plans to go YYZ-LAS-DFW-YYZ, stopping at each city for a few days.
He consulted Travelocity and Expedia, but they consider the itinienary (sp) as multiple one-way trips, which means "expensive" for him.
So all wise men here, any less expensive way to fly this trip?
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What are the dates of travel?
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posted 08-14-2001 11:27 AM
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YYZ-LAS is a vacatio/convention route, so fares are likely to be less than YYZ-DFW, which is primarily a business one. I'd buy one ticket [AC, UA or AA depending upon FF program your friend belongs to] with Saturday overnight, 7-day advance. Then book, as suggested, a cheap SouthWest to DAL. Make the return trip from DAL so it arrives a couple of hours prior to the AC [UA/AA] departure from LAS back to YYZ. Of course, if this has to be done next week, your friend is out of luck and should book this trip with points.
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terenz
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posted 08-14-2001 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by Shareholder:
YYZ-LAS is a vacatio/convention route, so fares are likely to be less than YYZ-DFW, which is primarily a business one. I'd buy one ticket [AC, UA or AA depending upon FF program your friend belongs to] with Saturday overnight, 7-day advance. Then book, as suggested, a cheap SouthWest to DAL.
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Nice idea but it doesn't work as Frequent Freak already pointed out. The infamous Wright Amendment is still in effect which means that no scheduled service using a/c with more than 56 seats can serve DAL to anything further than an adjacent state without buying a seperate ticket for beyond flights.
The person would have to buy a ticket from LAS to an airport in a state adjacent to Texas and then buy a seperate ticket from there to DAL.
Try finding LAS-DFW on National Airlines, America West, American or Delta.
[This message has been edited by terenz (edited 08-14-2001).]
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posted 08-14-2001 11:51 AM
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Regarding the LAS-DAL two-ticket idea, it looks like you have several possible connecting cities at your disposal. MAF and LBB seem to be the cheapest, about $10 less than going though ABQ, ELP, OKC or AUS.
http://www.southwest.com/hotfares/ho...texas.html#dal
http://www.southwest.com/hotfares/hotfares_las.html
Apparently there is no roundtrip purchase requirement.
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posted 08-14-2001 12:19 PM
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For LAS-DFW, Sun Country is $104.75 one way. Round trip is $209 on Sun Country, AA, HP and National (advance purchase with Saturday night stay).
Southwest from a non-Wright state to Love Field makes sense only if you are not staying over Saturday night but the "legal" cheap fares require that, or if you are flying last minute. LAS is cheap, cheap, cheap, so Southwest between LAS and DAL almost never works out.
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posted 08-14-2001 12:29 PM
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posted 08-14-2001 10:10 AM
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Friend plans to go YYZ-LAS-DFW-YYZ, stopping at each city for a few days.
He consulted Travelocity and Expedia, but they consider the itinienary (sp) as multiple one-way trips, which means "expensive" for him.
So all wise men here, any less expensive way to fly this trip?
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wideman
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From: new england, usa
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posted 08-14-2001 10:20 AM
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One way is to buy 1 YYZ-DFW rt, and buy 1 DFW-LAS rt.
Fly on Thusrday, say, from YYZ-DFW (AA non-stop), then fly DFW-LAS using the first leg of the second ticket. Allow plenty of time for the connection, because you won't be able to check your bags through (if any).
On Monday, fly LAS-DFW, and spend some quality time checking out the cultural highlights of Dallas. (Never mind.) Thusrday, fly back to Toronto.
Hardly ulytra-cheap because fares from Canada to dallas are expensive, but at least it's less than US$700.
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posted 08-14-2001 10:37 AM
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Break this into two itins: one an open jaw with YYZ-LAS outbound and DFW-YYZ inbound. I doubt any single carrier does both these nonstop (well, AC might) so you'll probably be changing planes somewhere on both legs (and if you fly AA your outbound might coincidentally be YYZ-DFW-LAS, although more likely YYZ-ORD-LAS).
Then for the LAS-Dallas leg fly LAS-DAL on Southwest. Because of the Wright amendment you have to buy two separate tickets, most likely for LAS-ABQ and ABQ-DAL. Upside is that WN doesn't hose you on one-way tickets (they cost half a roundtrip). You may be able to get one or both of these legs for a base fare of $30, depending on which markets WN is offering $30 fares between this week. Your friend must be willing to fly WN, of course, and s/he has to line up twice for boarding passes.
Hey, you did ask.
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JS
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posted 08-14-2001 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by A380:
Friend plans to go YYZ-LAS-DFW-YYZ, stopping at each city for a few days.
He consulted Travelocity and Expedia, but they consider the itinienary (sp) as multiple one-way trips, which means "expensive" for him.
So all wise men here, any less expensive way to fly this trip?
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What are the dates of travel?
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Shareholder
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posted 08-14-2001 11:27 AM
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YYZ-LAS is a vacatio/convention route, so fares are likely to be less than YYZ-DFW, which is primarily a business one. I'd buy one ticket [AC, UA or AA depending upon FF program your friend belongs to] with Saturday overnight, 7-day advance. Then book, as suggested, a cheap SouthWest to DAL. Make the return trip from DAL so it arrives a couple of hours prior to the AC [UA/AA] departure from LAS back to YYZ. Of course, if this has to be done next week, your friend is out of luck and should book this trip with points.
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terenz
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posted 08-14-2001 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by Shareholder:
YYZ-LAS is a vacatio/convention route, so fares are likely to be less than YYZ-DFW, which is primarily a business one. I'd buy one ticket [AC, UA or AA depending upon FF program your friend belongs to] with Saturday overnight, 7-day advance. Then book, as suggested, a cheap SouthWest to DAL.
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Nice idea but it doesn't work as Frequent Freak already pointed out. The infamous Wright Amendment is still in effect which means that no scheduled service using a/c with more than 56 seats can serve DAL to anything further than an adjacent state without buying a seperate ticket for beyond flights.
The person would have to buy a ticket from LAS to an airport in a state adjacent to Texas and then buy a seperate ticket from there to DAL.
Try finding LAS-DFW on National Airlines, America West, American or Delta.
[This message has been edited by terenz (edited 08-14-2001).]
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posted 08-14-2001 11:51 AM
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Regarding the LAS-DAL two-ticket idea, it looks like you have several possible connecting cities at your disposal. MAF and LBB seem to be the cheapest, about $10 less than going though ABQ, ELP, OKC or AUS.
http://www.southwest.com/hotfares/ho...texas.html#dal
http://www.southwest.com/hotfares/hotfares_las.html
Apparently there is no roundtrip purchase requirement.
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JS
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posted 08-14-2001 12:19 PM
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For LAS-DFW, Sun Country is $104.75 one way. Round trip is $209 on Sun Country, AA, HP and National (advance purchase with Saturday night stay).
Southwest from a non-Wright state to Love Field makes sense only if you are not staying over Saturday night but the "legal" cheap fares require that, or if you are flying last minute. LAS is cheap, cheap, cheap, so Southwest between LAS and DAL almost never works out.
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posted 08-14-2001 12:29 PM
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