Quick rant about "preferred" seats.
Mar 30, 2023, 6:02 am
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Quick rant about "preferred" seats.
Carrier agnostic and fly 4-5 RT per year, usually on OPM where I don't get a choice. On all three major US carriers in the last few months I've noticed that the depth of the "preferred" window and aisle seats has been going back further, as has the cost of those assignments. I booked a four segment DL itinerary last night and in order to not be in the last three available rows, it would cost me $100 to have a window or aisle. Moving up to C+ was $110. Same thing with AA, had to pay $29 OOP to select a "preferred" seat just so I didn't have a middle. I can somewhat understand the first couple rows, but when more than half of your Y seats are "preferred" are they really preferred or are they just not hated?
Mar 30, 2023, 8:37 am
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imo just another way of "enhancing" each carrier's program for their members and elites by nickel-and-diming those without membership or status
it's a major downside of being a "free agent"
it's a major downside of being a "free agent"
Mar 30, 2023, 9:55 am
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I've noticed this as well with other airlines under star alliance & the other major airline carrier in CAN. It's not really preferred seating to me and just a squeeze to get an extra penny out of you for YOUR preferred seats.
I did notice it was also dependent on my ticket choice as well.
I did notice it was also dependent on my ticket choice as well.
Mar 30, 2023, 9:29 pm
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If you don’t want to pay, maybe accepting and even embracing the middle seat is best. I love to think of the Seinfeld episode where Putty is sitting in a middle seat without needing a thing. Elaine asks if he wants a magazine, book, something and he simply responds that he’s fine. As we see, tons of people sit in the middle seat towards the back of the plane and they’re fine. When I fly with my family in Y I’ll take the middle seat instead of doing aisle-aisle-window. By taking the middle I’ll get to sit inbetween my spouse and child. My spouse and I can hold hands and my child can try to separate our hands which might mean that I’ll hold hands with my child and that’ll be pretty great for me.
Apr 1, 2023, 7:28 pm
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They will charge for everything that they can. I would much rather fares be higher than nickel and diming everywhere. Give it a few years and they'll start charging for seating at the gate.
Apr 1, 2023, 8:07 pm
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Carrier agnostic and fly 4-5 RT per year, usually on OPM where I don't get a choice. On all three major US carriers in the last few months I've noticed that the depth of the "preferred" window and aisle seats has been going back further, as has the cost of those assignments. I booked a four segment DL itinerary last night and in order to not be in the last three available rows, it would cost me $100 to have a window or aisle. Moving up to C+ was $110. Same thing with AA, had to pay $29 OOP to select a "preferred" seat just so I didn't have a middle. I can somewhat understand the first couple rows, but when more than half of your Y seats are "preferred" are they really preferred or are they just not hated?
Apr 3, 2023, 1:38 am
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I'm somewhat disheartened by my observation that the masses are starting to regard the idea of paying to not get stuck in a middle as "normal".
Last edited by moondog; Apr 5, 2023 at 6:50 pm
Apr 3, 2023, 8:06 am
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That's what I think is really going on here. They are reserving a big chunk of the non terrible seats for members of the carrier's frequent flyer program that buy tickets close up to the departure date. They aren't offering those buy up prices because they expect people to pay them (though I'm sure they are very happy if you do). They are using them to keep those seats empty without formally blocking them off.
Apr 3, 2023, 12:59 pm
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Wait until you hear about hotel "premium" upgrades where the only difference is "not next to the elevator or the ice machine."
Apr 3, 2023, 2:58 pm
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With the constant devaluations of elite status at the major airlines, this is one place where they still throw us a bone - free seat selection and priority boarding. Depending on how much I fly, low-level elite status in a different alliance is still sometimes beneficial just for this reason.
Apr 5, 2023, 2:05 pm
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yup. After bag fees were accepted by everyone, the floodgates were opened. They will not stop until people refuse to pay extra for something that used to be free, but that’ll never happen. There will always be people who will pay extra for that minor convenience.
Apr 5, 2023, 7:37 pm
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Apr 7, 2023, 11:48 pm
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In the episode you cite, Puddy (yep, it's Puddy NOT Putty) is in the aisle seat. Remember, he starts "making time with the floozy across the aisle" because he has to "get on with his life" while Elaine (in the middle seat) is talking to "Vegetable Lasagna??" Puddy starring into the back of the seat is 100% accurate.. but it's the back of the aisle seat. This is the trip "Backwards Episode" that is the India trip.