Is the standard now for window shades to be closed on all flights at all times?
Jan 26, 2022, 12:42 pm
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I always book window seats and keep the shades up since I enjoy the view. I'll compromise and lower it to the point that it doesn't glare on the screens but where I can still see out.
I'm reminded of an overnight flight on AF where a FA snapped at me from the other aisle over to lower my shade when it was pitch black outside... Yeah, I guarantee you just disturbed more passengers than my shade did...
I'm reminded of an overnight flight on AF where a FA snapped at me from the other aisle over to lower my shade when it was pitch black outside... Yeah, I guarantee you just disturbed more passengers than my shade did...
Jan 26, 2022, 5:43 pm
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I often wake up during a TCON redeye flight and look outside for a few minutes, trying to guess location from the light patterns of towns, highways, airports, etc
last year going SEA-JFK, I was in one of the DL A330-900 suites with the seat closer to the aisle than the window (*not* my preferred configuration), and woke up to find the FA taking advantage of the fact that the sliding door on the suite was open and leaning across me to close the shade
last year going SEA-JFK, I was in one of the DL A330-900 suites with the seat closer to the aisle than the window (*not* my preferred configuration), and woke up to find the FA taking advantage of the fact that the sliding door on the suite was open and leaning across me to close the shade
Jan 26, 2022, 8:08 pm
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I often wake up during a TCON redeye flight and look outside for a few minutes, trying to guess location from the light patterns of towns, highways, airports, etc
last year going SEA-JFK, I was in one of the DL A330-900 suites with the seat closer to the aisle than the window (*not* my preferred configuration), and woke up to find the FA taking advantage of the fact that the sliding door on the suite was open and leaning across me to close the shade
last year going SEA-JFK, I was in one of the DL A330-900 suites with the seat closer to the aisle than the window (*not* my preferred configuration), and woke up to find the FA taking advantage of the fact that the sliding door on the suite was open and leaning across me to close the shade
Jan 28, 2022, 8:13 pm
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Yeah because.people never use curtains at home, or have tinted windows on cars, or gasp, have never provided curtains on buses, trains etc. I normally keep the shades up (for views, photography etc) but if it is blasting bright sun, esp at an angle, then it is basic courtesy to keep it down enough.
Making snarky remarks without exact context is just poor form.
Making snarky remarks without exact context is just poor form.
Jan 29, 2022, 6:17 am
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The decision on the shades belongs to the cabin crew. If they don't care then it belongs to the person in the window seat. The decision on whether the person in the window seat can conveniently access the aisle belongs to the passengers in the middle and the aisle seats. Window seat occupants who don't care if the glare of the sunlight disturbs their adjacent seatmates and become pissy if asked to lower the shade might want to keep that in mind or plan to cutback on their fluid intake.
Jan 29, 2022, 8:18 am
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The decision on the shades belongs to the cabin crew. If they don't care then it belongs to the person in the window seat. The decision on whether the person in the window seat can conveniently access the aisle belongs to the passengers in the middle and the aisle seats. Window seat occupants who don't care if the glare of the sunlight disturbs their adjacent seatmates and become pissy if asked to lower the shade might want to keep that in mind or plan to cutback on their fluid intake.
where is this rule published or is it open for modification ?
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Jan 29, 2022, 8:25 am
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The point is that in the close confines of an airline cabin showing some consideration for the people around you is a good plan. Should I ask you nicely to lower the blind a bit because the glare is in my eyes and you get pissy about it (pun intended) don't be surprised if I'm not particularly cooperative when you need to get to the aisle.
Jan 30, 2022, 5:49 pm
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The point is that in the close confines of an airline cabin showing some consideration for the people around you is a good plan. Should I ask you nicely to lower the blind a bit because the glare is in my eyes and you get pissy about it (pun intended) don't be surprised if I'm not particularly cooperative when you need to get to the aisle.
Feb 1, 2022, 6:04 am
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Feb 1, 2022, 8:01 pm
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Long hauls are another matter... that TLV-EWR flight (UA85?) with the 11:30-ish departure was I think almost 13 hours due to winter headwinds.
Feb 4, 2022, 2:44 pm
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That's fine, and I even like shades-up on domestic daytime flights. I don't understand this fetish for shades-down, lights-out at midday on a 2-3 hour flight.
Long hauls are another matter... that TLV-EWR flight (UA85?) with the 11:30-ish departure was I think almost 13 hours due to winter headwinds.
Long hauls are another matter... that TLV-EWR flight (UA85?) with the 11:30-ish departure was I think almost 13 hours due to winter headwinds.
Most people are awake for 13+ hours in the middle of the day.
Proper jetlag avoidance suggests acclimating to the time zone where you are headed, no?
An 1130 departure from TLV with 13 hours enroute to EWR would arrive at 1730L. I'm not going to apologize for wanting to stay awake and enjoy the views out the window for most of a flight that departs at 1130 and arrives at 1730.
Some of the most impressive views I've seen out of the window of an airplane were during a daylight crossing of Greenland and the Canadian Arctic (followed by stunning shots of the Canadian Rockies) on a UA LHR-SFO flight.