Salary & business class
Nov 19, 2018, 1:35 pm
#61
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My employer (rather our clients) paid for business class when I started. Back then I was making $150k. I've been able to advance my career substantially since then, which has come with generous pay increases, and now also travel in F. For personal travel I will usually take J at a minimum.
Nov 20, 2018, 8:23 am
#62
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We still have kids at home, so we aren't buying 5xJ/F to go anywhere. My wife and I occasionally take trips by ourselves in J/F, sometimes paid (if it's a great deal) but more often with miles.
I don't see why I'd buy a lot of J with my own money when I can so keenly demonstrate my command of gaming miles and points. (That really should be our motto!!
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I don't see why I'd buy a lot of J with my own money when I can so keenly demonstrate my command of gaming miles and points. (That really should be our motto!!
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Nov 22, 2018, 12:25 pm
#63
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I fly about half my flights in premium cabins (mix of upgrades and paid F/J) and I make about $200,000.
Nov 23, 2018, 2:32 pm
#65
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: NYC
Programs: AS 75K, DL Platinum
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I make around 200k. For personal travel I fly paid F/J around 1/3 the time, usually for flights over 5 hours like trans cons or international.
It’s certainly a luxury. But travel is something I care about and am willing to spend extra money on. My annual travel budget is around 15k. I’m tall and despise flying, so splurging on inflight comfort greatly increases my overall trip experience. Instead of dreading the start/end of a trip, I look forward to it.
Feels worth it to me.
It’s certainly a luxury. But travel is something I care about and am willing to spend extra money on. My annual travel budget is around 15k. I’m tall and despise flying, so splurging on inflight comfort greatly increases my overall trip experience. Instead of dreading the start/end of a trip, I look forward to it.
Feels worth it to me.
Nov 25, 2018, 7:31 am
#66
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Are there not other factors than salary?
Lets forget OPM flying for a minute, since even someone making 30k can be upfront for their next shower rod sales meetings if OPM pays for it.
As for personal travel,
One may make 200k - and have bills coming out of your ... - mortgages, car payments, kids tuition, etc. Vacation time is like 2 weeks a year, making "splurging" on a big seat in a tube more likely if its once per year.
Or you may make 100k - and youre all paid off, have minimal bills, no kids, and 4+ months of vacation. taking multiple trips a year.
Or you may be dual income in either situation above.
Since when does salary = disposable income?
Lets forget OPM flying for a minute, since even someone making 30k can be upfront for their next shower rod sales meetings if OPM pays for it.
As for personal travel,
One may make 200k - and have bills coming out of your ... - mortgages, car payments, kids tuition, etc. Vacation time is like 2 weeks a year, making "splurging" on a big seat in a tube more likely if its once per year.
Or you may make 100k - and youre all paid off, have minimal bills, no kids, and 4+ months of vacation. taking multiple trips a year.
Or you may be dual income in either situation above.
Since when does salary = disposable income?
Nov 26, 2018, 11:56 am
#68
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Who in their right mind would disclose their income on here? It's pretty high schoolish and bordering on being in the same league as a the tool who has three EXP tags on their roller. No one cares about your income folks, no need to brag.
Nov 26, 2018, 4:28 pm
#69
Join Date: Aug 2008
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Thinking about starting a Go Fund Me page to finance additional travel.
Last edited by rbwpi; Nov 26, 2018 at 4:33 pm
Nov 26, 2018, 6:55 pm
#70
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because it was asked on the first post. in some countries, its less taboo. in other countries, the data is actually exposed.
Nov 26, 2018, 10:04 pm
#71
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Are there not other factors than salary?
Lets forget OPM flying for a minute, since even someone making 30k can be upfront for their next shower rod sales meetings if OPM pays for it.
As for personal travel,
One may make 200k - and have bills coming out of your ... - mortgages, car payments, kids tuition, etc. Vacation time is like 2 weeks a year, making "splurging" on a big seat in a tube more likely if its once per year.
Or you may make 100k - and youre all paid off, have minimal bills, no kids, and 4+ months of vacation. taking multiple trips a year.
Or you may be dual income in either situation above.
Since when does salary = disposable income?
Lets forget OPM flying for a minute, since even someone making 30k can be upfront for their next shower rod sales meetings if OPM pays for it.
As for personal travel,
One may make 200k - and have bills coming out of your ... - mortgages, car payments, kids tuition, etc. Vacation time is like 2 weeks a year, making "splurging" on a big seat in a tube more likely if its once per year.
Or you may make 100k - and youre all paid off, have minimal bills, no kids, and 4+ months of vacation. taking multiple trips a year.
Or you may be dual income in either situation above.
Since when does salary = disposable income?
Exactly. My husband earns double what I do and I have way more disposable income than him. My best friend earns 5 times my wage and to him luxury means a night or two in a 3.5 to 4 star hotel.
Nov 27, 2018, 5:13 am
#72
Join Date: Jan 2015
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Posts: 14
I earn nothing
..... buy tickets out of my own pocket ....and always fly F or J. Not everyone has conventional income. But you can always spot those who don't buy their own tickets..... 
Nov 27, 2018, 6:02 am
#74
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 5
Another reason not to fly
In my line of work, flying business is considered by many to be poor form. I’m in science, and specifically in a field where most people know climate science, and the carbon footprint of premium class is something many take seriously.
That said, I am not unusual as a scientist and research prof in making about 20 RT trips a year, on average four transoceanic. I just got tenure and plan to cut way back. There’s generally a move to do this in the field.
On top of the carbon, much of my research is taxpayer-funded, so we’re generally forbidden from flying premium.
I make over $200k/year but just don’t see the point of throwing money into premium
when it can go to so many better things. It is awful to arrive tired and jet lagged and then give talks and go to meetings, but it is something I’m now practiced in. I probably should learn better how to upgrade cheaply, if possible—I don’t have an assistant and get overwhelmed with all the travel.
Strangely the only time I flew business was when I was a postdoc and the WHO was inviting me over. My science is now better but next week I’m flying 15 h in coach to Asia.
That said, I am not unusual as a scientist and research prof in making about 20 RT trips a year, on average four transoceanic. I just got tenure and plan to cut way back. There’s generally a move to do this in the field.
On top of the carbon, much of my research is taxpayer-funded, so we’re generally forbidden from flying premium.
I make over $200k/year but just don’t see the point of throwing money into premium
when it can go to so many better things. It is awful to arrive tired and jet lagged and then give talks and go to meetings, but it is something I’m now practiced in. I probably should learn better how to upgrade cheaply, if possible—I don’t have an assistant and get overwhelmed with all the travel.
Strangely the only time I flew business was when I was a postdoc and the WHO was inviting me over. My science is now better but next week I’m flying 15 h in coach to Asia.
Nov 27, 2018, 6:27 am
#75
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Are there not other factors than salary?
Lets forget OPM flying for a minute, since even someone making 30k can be upfront for their next shower rod sales meetings if OPM pays for it.
As for personal travel,
One may make 200k - and have bills coming out of your ... - mortgages, car payments, kids tuition, etc. Vacation time is like 2 weeks a year, making "splurging" on a big seat in a tube more likely if its once per year.
Or you may make 100k - and youre all paid off, have minimal bills, no kids, and 4+ months of vacation. taking multiple trips a year.
Or you may be dual income in either situation above.
Since when does salary = disposable income?
Lets forget OPM flying for a minute, since even someone making 30k can be upfront for their next shower rod sales meetings if OPM pays for it.
As for personal travel,
One may make 200k - and have bills coming out of your ... - mortgages, car payments, kids tuition, etc. Vacation time is like 2 weeks a year, making "splurging" on a big seat in a tube more likely if its once per year.
Or you may make 100k - and youre all paid off, have minimal bills, no kids, and 4+ months of vacation. taking multiple trips a year.
Or you may be dual income in either situation above.
Since when does salary = disposable income?