missing out cause you're flying premium
#16
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: HAG
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Between flying premium classes and getting lounge access, and Priority Pass when I am not, I realized I miss out on many things in airports and on planes.
Some airports, like Singapore's Changi, are wonderful and have so many things to do. Video games, movie screenings, lily and butterfly and cactus gardens. But I don't explore anymore. I just head to the lounges.
Some airports, like Singapore's Changi, are wonderful and have so many things to do. Video games, movie screenings, lily and butterfly and cactus gardens. But I don't explore anymore. I just head to the lounges.
Still when I can, I prefer to wait in the (relative) calm of the lounges. At least I get to sit in a comfy chair instead of a metal bench. If I want to go see something specific at an airport, be it a viewing deck, or just to check out how connections work, I still can. I just do it before I head for the lounge.
And on flights, even though the big seat upfront is nice, you miss out on interesting passengers (seated in economy last time on a domestic US flight I encountered a strange experience with a lady asking to plug her headphones into my laptop. Something that I could never imagine would happen upfront), the view outside (first in some airlines blocks out your windows), edutainment (Berlitz anyone?) which is like a blast from the past.
I guess you cannot have it all.
I guess you cannot have it all.
Even then, most people who will sit next to you in economy will do nothing, except be too close to you for a couple of hours (by design, not by trying). Premium economy or business is a welcome respite from that, whenever I can get on such a flight.
Window wise, yeah, having view is nicer than not having view, but there are more important things than that. Sometimes, the only thing I'm really missing about my usual window seat is the ability to rest my head on the cabin wall and nap.
#17
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central Mass
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Personally, I find it much harder to hold a decent conversation with my seatmate when we are both squished up against each other silently suffering and fighting over an armrest than in first. And for all the interesting people I have met in economy, I have met many many more whom I think it better NOT to have a conversation with.
#18
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Location: NY Metro Area
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About 10 years ago, a friend and I, who were both EXPs on AA were both flying STL -LGA on some weekday in the fall. We had both been wondering why our upgrades weren’t clearing and I finally was told first had checked in full and to board. I get back to my seat in the exit row and my friend was in the same row. He saw me and said, “what the *$&# just happened to us.”. For both of us it was the only upgrade we missed that year. But we had a nice chat.
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#21
Join Date: Jan 2003
Programs: American Airlines Platinum, National Executive
Posts: 3,790
I fly to get from Point A to Point B. I fly in first/business class and have lounge access to get from Point A to Point B as comfortably as possible, and so that I can get stuff done while on the plane and at the airport.
I never have even considered that I could be missing out by not flying coach and waiting in the regular part of the airport. If I were missing out, I'd just spend 10 minutes seeing the amazing thing at the airport on the way to the lounge.
I never have even considered that I could be missing out by not flying coach and waiting in the regular part of the airport. If I were missing out, I'd just spend 10 minutes seeing the amazing thing at the airport on the way to the lounge.
#22
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 7,875
I fly to get from Point A to Point B. I fly in first/business class and have lounge access to get from Point A to Point B as comfortably as possible, and so that I can get stuff done while on the plane and at the airport.
I never have even considered that I could be missing out by not flying coach and waiting in the regular part of the airport. If I were missing out, I'd just spend 10 minutes seeing the amazing thing at the airport on the way to the lounge.
I never have even considered that I could be missing out by not flying coach and waiting in the regular part of the airport. If I were missing out, I'd just spend 10 minutes seeing the amazing thing at the airport on the way to the lounge.
I recall wandering Changi airport at night, stumbling into the butterfly garden, and standing there watching them come out of the coccoons. Never seen it in real life before. Really cool.
#23
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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You also cannot see as well from first, because your seat is farther away from the window so you cannot press your face against the window for a better view.
#24
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: NOC/LAX
Posts: 432
I haven't felt like I've missed out at all. I generally give myself enough time to explore the airport (when desired) as well as visit the lounge. And I've found people in the front to be just as fascinating as the people in the back. Actually I find it easier to strike up a conversation with fellow passengers up front because it's generally more relaxed. Also, I've never experienced my windows being blocked out. They may have an electronic shade that goes down but I'm always in charge of the controls. I'll stick to the front of the plane and spare my back, thanks!
#25
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Agreeing on the merits on Singapore's Changi, as many other travellers do, year after year. I need to say that IMHO the number of really cool airports in the world, worthwile a longer walkabout just to discover things, are really limited
#26
Join Date: Dec 2016
Programs: AAdvantage, Skymiles
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For solo travel on a plane it's a game of chance. There's a small chance of having a great seat mate next to you. If you're younger your odds of having that great seat mate (for what it means to you) are better in economy, if you're older your odds are better at the front of the plane. The front guarantees that if you don't have that great seat mate, you'll at least be comfortable.
As as for the lounge, always check out the terminal first before going to the lounge. For me, I'm not much of a shopper so even the fancier terminals don't do much for me, and bar hopping and socializing airside don't seem to be a thing in Asia or Europe so I end up in the lounge anyway - but not for lack of trying.
As as for the lounge, always check out the terminal first before going to the lounge. For me, I'm not much of a shopper so even the fancier terminals don't do much for me, and bar hopping and socializing airside don't seem to be a thing in Asia or Europe so I end up in the lounge anyway - but not for lack of trying.
#27
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I’m married now, so no longer interested in meeting any ladies. In my current situation, my wife lives in Asia and I live in LA, so I’m constantly commuting back and forth between LA and HK and at this point, I’ve seen pretty much everything HK Airport has to offer and have zero interest in visiting the shops anymore. I’ve also found that much of the stuff I would want to buy are usually very high end specialized equipment that an airport store would not carry and even if they do, I don’t have any space in my bags to carry it.
Thus, all I want is to be able to commute back and forth in peace, and given my frequent travels, it is quite exhausting and all I want to do is to go to the lounge and refresh with a nice hot shower and relax on their couches. Also grab a nice meal in the lounges (keeps my airport spending down) and when it’s time to board, get on my flight.
Yes, earlier in the year I lingered longer than necessary at Changi to go look around and it’s a nice airport, but it’s still an airport. I didn’t see one item at any of the stores that made me want to buy it.
Just like I’ve been to HKG so many times now that I don’t even bother with sightseeing. I go there to be with my wife as much as I can before I have to come back to my job. I’m looking forward to when she moves to LA, then I can put this commuting behind me.
Thus, all I want is to be able to commute back and forth in peace, and given my frequent travels, it is quite exhausting and all I want to do is to go to the lounge and refresh with a nice hot shower and relax on their couches. Also grab a nice meal in the lounges (keeps my airport spending down) and when it’s time to board, get on my flight.
Yes, earlier in the year I lingered longer than necessary at Changi to go look around and it’s a nice airport, but it’s still an airport. I didn’t see one item at any of the stores that made me want to buy it.
Just like I’ve been to HKG so many times now that I don’t even bother with sightseeing. I go there to be with my wife as much as I can before I have to come back to my job. I’m looking forward to when she moves to LA, then I can put this commuting behind me.
#28
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central Mass
Programs: Independent
Posts: 4,829
I've never really understood the idea of major retail shops in airports. I suppose it is something to do, but who buys stuff while flying? How do you carry it around? I could see showrooms for something you might buy later, or travel necessities, luggage for instance, or clothing. But other large items?
#29
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: PSM
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Enough people that those shops - and the airports - all make a lot of money from the activity. It is big business. Especially for people headed to countries where the selection and availability is limited or where there are significant import duties.
#30
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Staffordshire UK
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I flew out of PDX for the first time in a while last week. As the lounge available was the soul-destroying United Lounge, I went to the Brewhouse for a beer and a bite to eat. Very civilised and friendly and well worth the few dollars it cost.
Admittedly in the larger/busier airports, as I'm not a shopper, it's straight to the lounge for me.
Admittedly in the larger/busier airports, as I'm not a shopper, it's straight to the lounge for me.