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Old Jul 22, 2015 | 8:38 pm
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First time anxiety attack

I fly quite a bit, enough to maintain anywhere from Diamond to Gold with Delta for the past 7-8 years.

I experienced something on my trip this week that's never happened before. I was sitting in window of the exit row on a CRJ 200. Short flight (90 miles) from Columbus, GA to Atlanta, GA. We landed in Atlanta and while taxiing to the gate I guess the pilot turned the air off and it's starting getting a bit warm on the plane and I all of a sudden just got hit with a bit of an anxiety attack. To the point where I had this urge that I needed to get out of the seat immediately, I felt extraordinarily confined...and almost did. My follow on was on a CRJ 900 from Atlanta to Killeen, TX and I had no issues.

My return today, I had the same thing happen while taxiing to the runway in Atlanta. I started reading to try to keep my mind off of it but it was always still in the back of my mind and I was never really comfortable.

I've have never had this happen before and I can't count the times I take this short hop from CSG to ATL. I can be a bit claustrophobic sometimes if I'm in a situation in confined spaces and I have no control on being able to get out on my own.

I've got another trip leaving out Sunday and I'm in a aisle seat. Hopefully having that bit less confinement well help me settle a bit.

In the Army I was a tanker on an Abrams for 20 years which is a quite confined space and never felt like this before.

This ever happen to anyone else? I'm sure it's just all in my mind, but I felt like a frikken wimp!!
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Old Jul 22, 2015 | 8:54 pm
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Once when I flew from Vientiane to Xieng Khouang, Laos, in 1998 on a Chinese-made Y7 the pilot turned on the "air conditioning" midflight and it was like dry ice melting, with the cabin so filled with smoke (condensate?) that you could barely see in front of you. I took my cue from other passengers and didn't get concerned even though it was unsettling. Xieng Khouang then was a 3-day roadtrip from Vientiane on terrible roads, and had electricity only 5 hours a day (you ate at the hotel and ordered a meal in advance).

Sometimes a little knowledge about how everything works and why planes get into trouble can be dangerous, even though statistically you're far better off than driving.

If you suspect that there may be something underlying that gets brought to the surface with certain triggers, try St. John's Wort. If that doesn't help, see a doctor.
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Old Jul 22, 2015 | 10:35 pm
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First time anxiety attack

Yes
I always have a bottle of water( preferably) cold
To splash on my face when this happens

It's also better to sit on an Aisle seat for me
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Old Jul 22, 2015 | 11:25 pm
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It's entirely possible to have one anxiety attack (or two) and never have another:
Mayo Clinic on panic attacks

I actually had one almost 20 years ago--without really knowing what it was--but haven't had another. My body, instead, found other ways to respond poorly to stress. Probably worth a talk with your doctor--something like a mindfulness meditation class can be quite helpful. (Cheaper than drugs, no side effects!)
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Old Jul 22, 2015 | 11:44 pm
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Might not be in your mind, anxiety attacks can be caused by inner ear problems which can be triggered by sudden changes in temperature and pressure.
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 1:25 am
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OP: I know exactly what you are talking about. Aisle seats are much better. I had a this anxiety problem for many years and it just went away. I travel a lot, and it was a major problem for me (I travel even more now). Thank god I no longer have it. I know it was all in my head, but it was a problem.

It would happen to me when I was not in control of a situation.

Example 1: I am on a flt boarding and the AC is very hot. I start to sweat, the door closes, we sit. Sit, sit, sit. Than the plane pushes from the gate. We are number 30 for take off. Sit, sit, sit. The walls of the plane seem to close in (I am not in control and have no way out).

Example #2: I am driving through the "tunnel" in LAS and I am in the middle of the tunnel and in the middle lane and cars on every side of my car and all traffic is stopped because the President is visiting for a fundraiser. For one hour I sit in my car, again it is hot and exhaust fumes are pouring into my car from other cars exhausts. I have a anxiety attack. I was stuck and I could not control the situation. I lost it, and l got through it talking with my wife on the phone. She got me though it.

These are just two examples. I had more anxiety attacks, but I no longer have them. I understand the OP 100%. I have been there. Good luck!
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 7:06 am
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OP: I know exactly what you are talking about. Aisle seats are much better. I had a this anxiety problem for many years and it just went away. I travel a lot, and it was a major problem for me (I travel even more now). Thank god I no longer have it. I know it was all in my head, but it was a problem.

It would happen to me when I was not in control of a situation.

Example 1: I am on a flt boarding and the AC is very hot. I start to sweat, the door closes, we sit. Sit, sit, sit. Than the plane pushes from the gate. We are number 30 for take off. Sit, sit, sit. The walls of the plane seem to close in (I am not in control and have no way out).

Example #2: I am driving through the "tunnel" in LAS and I am in the middle of the tunnel and in the middle lane and cars on every side of my car and all traffic is stopped because the President is visiting for a fundraiser. For one hour I sit in my car, again it is hot and exhaust fumes are pouring into my car from other cars exhausts. I have a anxiety attack. I was stuck and I could not control the situation. I lost it, and l got through it talking with my wife on the phone. She got me though it.

These are just two examples. I had more anxiety attacks, but I no longer have them. I understand the OP 100%. I have been there. Good luck!
Indeed, this I think is from not being in control and claustrophobia. IME the trick is to always have a bottle of water to hand and sit in aisle seats on the plane. It seems as though sipping on (preferably) cold water does a quick reset to the system and ''normalizes'' it...At that point you should be in a position where you can take over the bad feelings...you need to at this point. Also if at all possible you should take a mini fan with you or turn on to full power the air vents above the seat if they are there. remember you are on the plane as you want to get somewhere...always focus on that. I hope I make sense. And I hope it gets better for you.^
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 9:02 am
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I started with anxiety attacks in my late thirties. Didn't understand what they were at the time. I had them onboard planes and inside my car. Then, one morning driving to work, I had my first 'panic' attack. Again, still didn't understand what was happening. I tried to drive long enough to get off the freeway, found a gas station to park and 'wait it out'. Didn't work for me. I ended up going by ambulance to the ER. Yes, it was that bad. Felt like a heart attack and I didn't know any better. I went to the doctor who gave me an anti-axiety med along with Ativan for quick relief when needed. In 2008, I boarded an AA 777 on a FC upgrade to LHR. I was seated in 3A and the moment I heard the door close, it started. No time for meds to kick-in (I learned quickly that I needed to take them a couple hours before flying). I rang the FA and told her, "I have to get off this plane." I explained what was happening. I held up a whole 777 for 10 or so minutes. Luckily, my baggage was 'priority' so it was easy to get out of the hold. Long story - sorry. But, my advice is to see a doctor now. Don't wait-n-see. Ten years later I no longer have attacks but do still sometimes feel a little anxious - but it's controllable now. amen.
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 12:43 pm
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See your doc. After 30 years in a high-stress, emergency response career with no problems, I thought I was immune to that sort of thing. After retirement, I found, much to my disgust, that I began having occasional attacks such as you mention. Turned out there were some subconscious things going on I didn't recognize. The doc gave me some low-dose Xanax for use in those cases and it did the trick. It only took 20 or 30 minutes to take effect. Now, I never need it but back then it saved a few trips. You just learn to do some breathing/relaxation exercises until the med kicks in.

There is probably something going on in your life that is causing some low-level anxiety. On occasion, that can flare up into a full-blown panic attack for no apparent reason. See your doc.
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 12:54 pm
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Short-Term Anxiety Attack

I never had such a problem until I was about 47 years-old, when I had similar events happen to me 3 or 4 times within 3 months (I remember it was only on the narrower planes.... once on a DC-9, the other times on RJ's.) It concerned me and I saw a doctor. We concluded that it was likely due to me drinking "Chinese Weight Loss Tea" that I had gotten through a mail order. I had been trying to loose a few pounds, but found it difficult with all of my business travel and professional dinners (I was Gold then, Platinum now). I saw an add for this stuff in a magazine...bought it, and was drinking it daily as instructed. It apparently had some amphetamines or something similar in the tea.

Have you recently started new medication or made major changes to your diet?
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 1:07 pm
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On amtrak

On California Zephyr in economy bedroom(in crew car which I dislike for various reasons)the following occurred:
-the interior locking mechanism malfunctioned(after already being brought to attendant's attention)and kept me locked in, and
-the temperature elevated about 10 degrees, I estimate to high 80's F.

Yes, anxiety and discomfort until knocking loudly in early AM hours brought someone to open from the outside. Mentioned to new conductor(they ususally work 6-8 hour runs): his response; "I know it didn't get that hot in there 'cause it didn't get that hot down here(ref to crew work area, below)." and "you just don't know how to work the lock."

I did not mention nor show him my past tickets(in bedrooms)for all Amtrak routes multiple times-he was hopelessly unhelpful and confrontational.
No referral to CR as it was "train from hell," with one sleeper completely contaminated by backed-up sewage system(and attendant smell), as well as rerouting out of SLC requiring the presence of freight conductor on-board.
Yep, confined space(no apparent escape)and discomfort due to heat=anxiety. Mod: feel free to share in Amtrak forum...
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 1:58 pm
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I'm with you. I actually find that specific aircraft types make me more prone to this than others and, as you've experienced, the CRJ-200 is the worst for me. Something about the window size and placement (too low on the fuselage), the air conditioning system...I don't know what it is. I can recall multiple experiences on CRJs that were combinations of motion sensitivity and anxiety.

I don't know that this technique would work for everyone, and it's not something suggested to me by a doctor (so I cannot vouch for the medical aspect), but I have found taking a Sudafed before my flight helps me dramatically. It prevents congestion and the stuffy feeling that for me seems to predicate an anxiety reaction. I also avoid bubbly drinks, like sodas, as all that gas expanding puts pressure on my stomach which also seems to trigger anxiety. It's been explained as a vagal nerve reaction.

Again, I don't know if that's something helpful to others, but I have certainly found it remarkably useful. A Sudafed before a flight keeps me in good mental and physical shape!
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 2:25 pm
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Pseudofed will make a real anxiety attack worse due to the action of the pseudoephedrin.
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 3:17 pm
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Very interesting discussion here. Would also wonder if the problem might run in families or have a herditary component in some cases.

If a herbal supplement like St. John's Wort can do the trick, then advantages include easier availability without a prescription (at least in the U.S.; other countries may be a different story on availability), and not having risk of dependency as with benzodiazepines or potential difficulty getting them across borders and back.

Kava and valerian also are mentioned as relaxing agents, but with anxiety involved usually it's SJW pointed to first among the herbals.
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 3:30 pm
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You don't need to be in an exit row. Ever.
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