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Originally Posted by synergistic
(Post 26768080)
I've always thought the shade was 'controlled' by the window seat passenger. I sleep against the window (shade down) and never thought twice about keeping the shade down the entire trip. OP did the nice thing and offered to switch seats, but the other guy declined - as far as I'm concerned that means the other guy gave up the option to control the shade. I'm not a confrontational person, but I would not have taken it well if someone reached across me whilst I was sleeping to raise the shade. Don't know that I'd have done anything but give a glare and lower the shade again, but I'd have definitely sat there stewing.
Seems like most people would rather have it down anyway, if they aren't sleeping it's easier to see the IFE screen with the shade down. Kind of hard to see out the window if you are in an aisle and if that is the reason the aisle person wanted it up he should have switched seats with the op, a lot easier to look out the window with a window seat than an aisle |
Originally Posted by Ryno1234
(Post 26759483)
This is truly staggering. Statistically incredible. To be one out of a sold out 767 is amazing. Ive been a DM for three years in a row now and have only had that happen to me one time on a CRJ. When they boarded the premium cabin, they made a comment saying "we would now like to invite our one Diamond member on this flight to board" and then butchered the pronunciation of my last name. I laughed. It was a little awkward to be honest. But that was a little tiny CRJ with no first class.
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Originally Posted by zitsky
(Post 26768358)
And then someone will post a video of you being arrested. You sound like a real tough guy. :td:
Punching something next to my head while I'm sleeping - no, I wouldn't be arrested. I wouldn't even be questioned. I might get a call a couple of months later. |
Because escalating a siuation in the confines of an in-flight aircraft always ends so well :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by jsk1973
(Post 26767664)
Not remotely. And on at least several airlines I've flown, the window shade has to be up for landing anyway.
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Originally Posted by pvn
(Post 26770793)
Ahahaha that may be but in some cases, but you'r still wrong, that doesn't have ANYTHING to do with the aisle seat having some sort of right to the shade.
Why is it verboten to ask a window-seat passenger to sleep with the shade up but not verboten to ask a sleeping aisle-seat passenger to get up so the window- or middle-seat passengers can move around? |
Originally Posted by jsk1973
(Post 26773060)
Says who? If the window seat controls the window, then basic logic says that the aisle seat would control the aisle.
Why is it verboten to ask a window-seat passenger to sleep with the shade up but not verboten to ask a sleeping aisle-seat passenger to get up so the window- or middle-seat passengers can move around? And the aisle person certainly can't block the aisle itself unless they want to be deboarded for blocking an escape route. Not really a good comparison. |
Originally Posted by televisor
(Post 26773181)
Lighting can very much be mitigated by using eyeshades or the overhead light as necessary. Full bladders should generally be mitigated using the onboard toilets. Of course if you don't want to get up, the window seat occupant might just choose to find a different target.
And the aisle person certainly can't block the aisle itself unless they want to be deboarded for blocking an escape route. Not really a good comparison. |
Here's a better comparison. If I'm in seat 21A on a 739 and it's bothering me that my IFE screen is two rows in front of me, am I able to reach over and start choosing whatever program I want on 21B's screen?
By some folks' logic, all passengers in the row should have control over all amenities related to every seat in the row, not just their own. But this is all besides the point - if people were just nice and civil with each other, there wouldn't be a problem. Every time I'm in an aisle seat, I happily hop up into the aisle when my seatmate needs to get up for any reason. Every time I'm in a window seat, I have no problem adjusting the shade if they ask nicely and I'm indifferent, or swapping seats with them if they're expressing a strong preference not in agreement with my own. |
Originally Posted by televisor
(Post 26773181)
Lighting can very much be mitigated by using eyeshades or the overhead light as necessary. Full bladders should generally be mitigated using the onboard toilets. Of course if you don't want to get up, the window seat occupant might just choose to find a different target.
And the aisle person certainly can't block the aisle itself unless they want to be deboarded for blocking an escape route. Not really a good comparison. |
Originally Posted by N639DL
(Post 26765532)
This was about 7 months ago on an hour long flight TPA-ATL, MD-90 (I'm sure you know the airline by now - there's a good thread in that airline's forum about snarky people but this is a window shade thing so it goes in the window shade thread).
I was in an A seat (window, left wing) and shortly after takeoff I noticed a hand coming in between my seat and the wall. The lady behind me pulled my window shade down. And this wasn't a case where my seatback was right over the window (where technically either row could control), my shoulder was where her hand ended up pulling the shade down. She stuck her hand in between my seat and the wall. I was pretty appalled that someone would do that. The lady didn't do anything else, I didn't say anything, and I re-opened the shade sometime when the flight was descending. It was a mid-afternoon flight and was a nice day outside. I don't understand however how the row in front of you having their window shade open would be such a disturbance... |
Originally Posted by jsk1973
(Post 26773506)
The "eyeshades" thing works in both directions. People planning to sleep during the day should plan accordingly, not expect everyone else to be happy about sitting in a dark tube during a daytime flight, up to and including a closed window for a daytime landing.
I didn't say anything about blocking the aisle; I said *access* to the aisle. You don't get to decide what anyone else watches on the IFE. You don't get to decide what anyone else eats. You don't get to go to a McDonalds and order a Whopper. It is your prerogative to decide if you'd prefer your neighbour to pee on you instead of in the restroom. |
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Originally Posted by miraclebear2003
(Post 26768429)
Earlier this year my wife and I were sitting in the C+ bulkhead. We like to keep the shade up and were alone in that row. We had a FA come over and ask my wife if she would lower the shade because the light was bothering someone in FC. . . .
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Originally Posted by jsk1973
(Post 26773060)
Says who?
If the window seat controls the window, then basic logic says that the aisle seat would control the aisle. Why is it verboten to ask a window-seat passenger to sleep with the shade up but not verboten to ask a sleeping aisle-seat passenger to get up so the window- or middle-seat passengers can move around? |
Originally Posted by jsk1973
(Post 26773506)
The "eyeshades" thing works in both directions. People planning to sleep during the day should plan accordingly, not expect everyone else to be happy about sitting in a dark tube during a daytime flight, up to and including a closed window for a daytime landing.
I didn't say anything about blocking the aisle; I said *access* to the aisle. |
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