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The aisle-seat guy sounds like a jerk, but I've never understood the window shade to be under the exclusive control of the window-seat passenger. Frankly, unless the sun was beating directly through the window, it's kind of a jerk move to keep the shade down when there are non-sleeping pax in the same row, especially during landing.
By the OP's logic, the aisle-seat guy could have refused to grant access to the aisle if he didn't feel like getting up. |
If you sit in the isle you don't get control of the shade, that's like having your cake and eating it too. I suppose you should have all the armrest too? And the entire overhead compartment for your jacket and hat? No. compromises need to be made or we descend into anarchy.
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Originally Posted by Crazyhotelguy
(Post 26763231)
Posted portion of this in the window shade etiquette thread, but it really deserved a mention here....
DYKWIA on my flight today decided that although he was in the aisle, he had complete control over the window shade. He asked if I would put it up, but due to trying to sleep, I politely declined since I wanted to sleep on the morning flight. He grumbles and I offer him the window seat, to which he declines. Nearing landing, I am passed out nicely, when all of a sudden the window shade slams open and I awake to a burst of light and two beefy old man eyes staring at me. I was not happy, but trying to contain the outrage, I again ask if he wants to sit by the window. He loudly proclaims that it should be up since it was down the entire flight. In embarrassment for him, I complied as to not raise a scene. I have no problem with people sitting at the window having the shade up or down. I do have a problem if I have the window and am trying to sleep and that wish is not honored. Oh, and being stared at in my personal space is pretty uncool as well. He was also the type to immediately get on the phone at landing proclaiming as loudly as possible how he was so important and that he got to golf yesterday. He looked like a D-list actor. If he was really important he could have flown private. He was across the aisle, the seats don’t line up so and was slightly forward of me so if the sun was in his eyes he could have slept on his right side. |
Originally Posted by jsk1973
(Post 26767664)
Not remotely. And on at least several airlines I've flown, the window shade has to be up for landing anyway.
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I've always thought the shade was 'controlled' by the window seat passenger. I sleep against the window (shade down) and never thought twice about keeping the shade down the entire trip. OP did the nice thing and offered to switch seats, but the other guy declined - as far as I'm concerned that means the other guy gave up the option to control the shade. I'm not a confrontational person, but I would not have taken it well if someone reached across me whilst I was sleeping to raise the shade. Don't know that I'd have done anything but give a glare and lower the shade again, but I'd have definitely sat there stewing.
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Originally Posted by Bowgie
(Post 26767846)
That's true on other airlines, but only on final appoach. Not Delta in my experience. Even then, I think the OP was disturbed quite a bit earlier.
(Of course, at cruising altitude, especially on international flights, they will request that the windows be closed to help passengers sleep.) |
Originally Posted by theddo
(Post 26768063)
Reach over and try that when I'm sleeping and I'll break your arm. And then post a video of you crying on youtube.
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Originally Posted by theddo
(Post 26768063)
Reach over and try that when I'm sleeping and I'll break your arm. And then post a video of you crying on youtube.
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Earlier this year my wife and I were sitting in the C+ bulkhead. We like to keep the shade up and were alone in that row. We had a FA come over and ask we wife if she would lower the shade because the light was bothering someone in FC. I was just speechless. Rather than cause trouble my wife lowered the shade. I don't know if I would have done the same, but she did ask nicely.
I understand the issue and try to be considerate, but if someone took it upon themselves to move the shade, that would not sit well with me. |
FWIW we were asked to raise the shades for landing on a DL flight today.
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Originally Posted by nikitta28
(Post 26767908)
If you sit in the isle you don't get control of the shade, that's like having your cake and eating it too. I suppose you should have all the armrest too? And the entire overhead compartment for your jacket and hat? No. compromises need to be made or we descend into anarchy.
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Originally Posted by miraclebear2003
(Post 26768429)
Earlier this year my wife and I were sitting in the C+ bulkhead. We like to keep the shade up and were alone in that row. We had a FA come over and ask we wife if she would lower the shade because the light was bothering someone in FC. I was just speechless. Rather than cause trouble my wife lowered the shade. I don't know if I would have done the same, but she did ask nicely.
I understand the issue and try to be considerate, e. |
IME, lowering the window shades is more about watching IFE screens and laptops, and less about sleeping. Even if there is no direct sun, a bright sky makes the dim seatback screens kinda tough to see. Most people seem happy to comply with a kind request.
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Originally Posted by miraclebear2003
(Post 26768429)
Earlier this year my wife and I were sitting in the C+ bulkhead. We like to keep the shade up and were alone in that row. We had a FA come over and ask we wife if she would lower the shade because the light was bothering someone in FC. I was just speechless. Rather than cause trouble my wife lowered the shade. I don't know if I would have done the same, but she did ask nicely.
I understand the issue and try to be considerate, but if someone took it upon themselves to move the shade, that would not sit well with me. |
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