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Originally Posted by Ben and Jerry
(Post 23804051)
Maybe the airlines should keep the F bins closed? F pax will open to put stuff up, but passing Y pax cannot quickly shove their bag in and move on to the back.
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Originally Posted by dchristiva
(Post 23801548)
That is not how I read your OP. That does make a difference, and you're right - once you tell the FA, you can't control what he/she does about it.
I hope for the sake of the offender that it was a nonstop with no possible continuation of that plane involved beyond that. Odd that the FA agreed to do this without knowing whose bag it was and what the destination of the bag should be. |
Originally Posted by cbn42
(Post 23799398)
As everyone knows from the news, little disputes have a way of escalating rapidly on airplanes.
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If the overhead is a free for all why do they have the seat numbers on them? You could just as easily have the seat numbers attached to the seat tops/sides as in the theatre and the bins could have fewer divisions in them making it easier to fill with awkward shapes.
I think it's perfectly reasonable to assume that the bin over your head is the space provided for your luggage. There's more confusion and angst to be obtained from people arguing the point and having to run up and down the aisle trying to find a space. If there was a common system at least people would know what to expect, this doesn't happen between flights on the same airline let alone across airlines. |
Originally Posted by lloydah
(Post 23806547)
If the overhead is a free for all why do they have the seat numbers on them? You could just as easily have the seat numbers attached to the seat tops/sides as in the theatre and the bins could have fewer divisions in them making it easier to fill with awkward shapes.
I think it's perfectly reasonable to assume that the bin over your head is the space provided for your luggage. As for the bin space until the airlines state in their T&C that bin space is assigned I doubt you will see your view gain general acceptance among travelers |
My first four comments make me doubt the coherence or fullness of the OP's story:
1) How could a bag too big to fit in straight-ways in the overhead, possibly fit under the seat in front of your friend? My backpack barely fits in that space. My FEET barely fit in that space. 2) Why would the FA ask a random person (your friend) to stick a big bag underneath their feet, instead of (a) trying to find the owner, or (b) gate-checking it? 3) Why wouldn't your friend say, "that's not mine." That would be the normal response. 4) Does your friend look like Brad Pitt or Ed Norton? And one general comment on the topic: 5) The bag fit.....the one who turned it is the sneaky one. DON'T TOUCH MY BAG. If you have a problem with the way it is fitting, find me. DO NOT TOUCH MY STUFF. |
Originally Posted by Exterous
(Post 23807359)
I would disagree that it is 'just as easily' displayed on the seat tops/sides. The current location is more typically eye height and against a more contrasting background allowing for easier distinction not to mention a larger font size. Then there is the issue that if the number is on the seat top and someone is already in the seat it is much harder for the average PAX to determine if that person is in the wrong seat or not.
As for the bin space until the airlines state in their T&C that bin space is assigned I doubt you will see your view gain general acceptance among travelers I'd still go for the uniform method of delivery - even if it's different for every airline - at least you'd know what to expect. The idea that people don't know till they get to their seat whether someone has pinched their overhead space ( I still think it's there for the seat beneath it) makes the frustration worse. If you expect it to be a scrum there's no surprise. If, on the other hand you could depend on FAs doing their job and even just keeping classes luggage space separate then you might lose that high blood pressure - well until you got to work :confused: |
Originally Posted by lloydah
(Post 23806547)
If the overhead is a free for all why do they have the seat numbers on them? You could just as easily have the seat numbers attached to the seat tops/sides as in the theatre and the bins could have fewer divisions in them making it easier to fill with awkward shapes.
I think it's perfectly reasonable to assume that the bin over your head is the space provided for your luggage. There's more confusion and angst to be obtained from people arguing the point and having to run up and down the aisle trying to find a space. If there was a common system at least people would know what to expect, this doesn't happen between flights on the same airline let alone across airlines. By the way, I board as early as I can and choose the bin directly above me. I always check my bag, even if it is legal. I use the bin space to hold my briefcase which has my prescription drugs, snacks for diabetics and the like. I refuse to put my bag under my seat as I'm tall and there are breakable things in my bag. If you get on late and try to move my stuff (or tell me to put my bag under my seat - yeah I mean you lady with the huge bag and attitude) you won't get any help from me with your personal storage issue. Check your bag. |
Originally Posted by Delta Hog
(Post 23807466)
5) The bag fit.....the one who turned it is the sneaky one. DON'T TOUCH MY BAG. If you have a problem with the way it is fitting, find me. DO NOT TOUCH MY STUFF.
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Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel
(Post 23807676)
If you don't want me messing with your bag don't put it in sideways or in other ways use more space than it needs/is allowed.
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Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel
(Post 23807676)
If you don't want me messing with your bag don't put it in sideways or in other ways use more space than it needs/is allowed.
And oh yes: if you have a problem with the way my bag is inserted, find me or an FA, and have the FA find me. Your opinion on the "correctness" of my bag storage does not give you the right to touch it. |
Originally Posted by Delta Hog
(Post 23807706)
I'm really gonna need a cite on this one. I've never heard of a "right way" to put bags in....what I've witnessed thousands of times is, if it fits, hurrah.
And oh yes: if you have a problem with the way my bag is inserted, find me or an FA, and have the FA find me. Your opinion on the "correctness" of my bag storage does not give you the right to touch it. |
Originally Posted by Delta Hog
(Post 23807466)
My first four comments make me doubt the coherence or fullness of the OP's story:
1) How could a bag too big to fit in straight-ways in the overhead, possibly fit under the seat in front of your friend? My backpack barely fits in that space. My FEET barely fit in that space. 2) Why would the FA ask a random person (your friend) to stick a big bag underneath their feet, instead of (a) trying to find the owner, or (b) gate-checking it? 3) Why wouldn't your friend say, "that's not mine." That would be the normal response. 4) Does your friend look like Brad Pitt or Ed Norton? And one general comment on the topic: 5) The bag fit.....the one who turned it is the sneaky one. DON'T TOUCH MY BAG. If you have a problem with the way it is fitting, find me. DO NOT TOUCH MY STUFF.
Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel
(Post 23807676)
If you don't want me messing with your bag don't put it in sideways or in other ways use more space than it needs/is allowed.
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Originally Posted by dchristiva
(Post 23807838)
If you don't follow the procedure as directed by the FA, I'm touching your stuff and will move it so that it conforms. If it only fits because you turn it sideways, that's YOUR problem, not mine or the rest of the passengers who follow the directions given by the FA. I'm not wasting MY time hunting you down to tell you that you effed up and now your bag doesn't fit and is sitting in the aisle.
I have encountered numerous instances of "bin hogs" who don't use the space efficiently. Most often, it is suit jackets or coats laid across whole bins. Could be other things. (I don't think an "improperly placed bag" counts, because I don't think there is such a thing.) In any event, the proper thing to do is make a simple inquiry of the seats around "is this yours? Is this yours?," and when you find the owner, say/ask (this can be done fairly firmly) if you can move/adjust the item so that more will fit. The key, as in most human interactions, is politeness and communication. Moving a bag so it sticks straight out and the bin no longer shuts? Well, that is an act that involves neither politeness nor communication. |
Originally Posted by dchristiva
(Post 23807838)
If you don't follow the procedure as directed by the FA, I'm touching your stuff and will move it so that it conforms. If it only fits because you turn it sideways, that's YOUR problem, not mine or the rest of the passengers who follow the directions given by the FA. I'm not wasting MY time hunting you down to tell you that you effed up and now your bag doesn't fit and is sitting in the aisle.
+2 ^ |
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