Red eye: flat bed with connection or non-stop?
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Red eye: flat bed with connection or non-stop?
I avoid red eyes like the plague but scheduling forces me to do one soon. I need to attend late afternoon functions in Boston the day of arrival. My options are:
-- Non-stop in UA domestic first to Boston, check in to hotel on arrival guaranteed, sleep for 3 hours or so and get out of the hotel around lunch time.
-- Flat bed flight to JFK, stop in the new Delta JFK lounge for a shower and breakfast before heading on to Boston on Delta in first, arriving a little after noon. (I'll be using my Platinum Amex to get into the lounge, and it appears I would have access to all the facilities there.)
I'm leaning toward the flat bed with connection because otherwise I won't get much real sleep en route at all, but even if all goes well I won't be able to sleep more than 4 1/2 hours or so on the plane.
Any advice?
-- Non-stop in UA domestic first to Boston, check in to hotel on arrival guaranteed, sleep for 3 hours or so and get out of the hotel around lunch time.
-- Flat bed flight to JFK, stop in the new Delta JFK lounge for a shower and breakfast before heading on to Boston on Delta in first, arriving a little after noon. (I'll be using my Platinum Amex to get into the lounge, and it appears I would have access to all the facilities there.)
I'm leaning toward the flat bed with connection because otherwise I won't get much real sleep en route at all, but even if all goes well I won't be able to sleep more than 4 1/2 hours or so on the plane.
Any advice?
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if you fly to JFK you could also train/car to boston, looks like acela first class seating is only 1-2
ex-SFO >
UA 444 to BOS leaves at 4:42pm
UA 806 to ORD leaves at 7:19pm but max sleep (at hotel) is probably not much longer
Last edited by Kagehitokiri; Jul 6, 2014 at 9:10 pm
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Red eye: flat bed with connection or non-stop?
Can you sleep in the first class UA seat?
When I take red eyes, even the brutal ones from the west coast to DFW or ORD, I can sleep just fine in the first seats. If you're like me, I'd opt for the nonstop with the guaranteed hotel room and a real bed at the end. Even delta flat bed is still on a plane and 4.5 hours isn't enough sleep no matter how comfy the bed is.
When I take red eyes, even the brutal ones from the west coast to DFW or ORD, I can sleep just fine in the first seats. If you're like me, I'd opt for the nonstop with the guaranteed hotel room and a real bed at the end. Even delta flat bed is still on a plane and 4.5 hours isn't enough sleep no matter how comfy the bed is.
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It depends if it is a business or leisure trip. Also how valuable is time vs. comfort for you?
If you are on a leisure trip and value comfort, then definitely the second option. You may be on a leisure trip, but value time, then the first option.
If you are traveling on business and have time to relax, then second option, so you can get a good sleep on lie flat seats and take a shower at the DL lounge at JFK and take your time in connecting to Boston.
If you are on business, but have a pile of work to do on the date of arrival before the event later in the afternoon, take the non-stop flight to save time.
If you are on a leisure trip and value comfort, then definitely the second option. You may be on a leisure trip, but value time, then the first option.
If you are traveling on business and have time to relax, then second option, so you can get a good sleep on lie flat seats and take a shower at the DL lounge at JFK and take your time in connecting to Boston.
If you are on business, but have a pile of work to do on the date of arrival before the event later in the afternoon, take the non-stop flight to save time.
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I avoid red eyes like the plague but scheduling forces me to do one soon. I need to attend late afternoon functions in Boston the day of arrival. My options are:
-- Non-stop in UA domestic first to Boston, check in to hotel on arrival guaranteed, sleep for 3 hours or so and get out of the hotel around lunch time.
-- Flat bed flight to JFK, stop in the new Delta JFK lounge for a shower and breakfast before heading on to Boston on Delta in first, arriving a little after noon. (I'll be using my Platinum Amex to get into the lounge, and it appears I would have access to all the facilities there.)
I'm leaning toward the flat bed with connection because otherwise I won't get much real sleep en route at all, but even if all goes well I won't be able to sleep more than 4 1/2 hours or so on the plane.
Any advice?
-- Non-stop in UA domestic first to Boston, check in to hotel on arrival guaranteed, sleep for 3 hours or so and get out of the hotel around lunch time.
-- Flat bed flight to JFK, stop in the new Delta JFK lounge for a shower and breakfast before heading on to Boston on Delta in first, arriving a little after noon. (I'll be using my Platinum Amex to get into the lounge, and it appears I would have access to all the facilities there.)
I'm leaning toward the flat bed with connection because otherwise I won't get much real sleep en route at all, but even if all goes well I won't be able to sleep more than 4 1/2 hours or so on the plane.
Any advice?
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I'd do non-stop here. Take a nap in the hotel if needed and you will feel great. Extra connections and lounge showers only add stress to your life.
That being said, I'd sleep like a baby on a domestic first red-eye. I end up flying overnight in coach so often that even domestic first would be wonderful.
That being said, I'd sleep like a baby on a domestic first red-eye. I end up flying overnight in coach so often that even domestic first would be wonderful.
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If you had asked which was the more thrilling route to take, I'd choose the bed to JFK just for the experience and the chance at exploring the lounge.
However, if the only criteria is getting some sleep before a business meeting, I'd go for the nonstop. You reduce the stress of a connection and get to the hotel faster to have a last chance to settle in and take a quality nap. On this short a flight, a lie flat bed is not going to do much to enhance the sleep you get. I haven't had any trouble sleeping on UA redeye flights. Bring some eye shades and ,most importantly, noise cancelling earphones.
However, if the only criteria is getting some sleep before a business meeting, I'd go for the nonstop. You reduce the stress of a connection and get to the hotel faster to have a last chance to settle in and take a quality nap. On this short a flight, a lie flat bed is not going to do much to enhance the sleep you get. I haven't had any trouble sleeping on UA redeye flights. Bring some eye shades and ,most importantly, noise cancelling earphones.
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If you had asked which was the more thrilling route to take, I'd choose the bed to JFK just for the experience and the chance at exploring the lounge.
However, if the only criteria is getting some sleep before a business meeting, I'd go for the nonstop. You reduce the stress of a connection and get to the hotel faster to have a last chance to settle in and take a quality nap. On this short a flight, a lie flat bed is not going to do much to enhance the sleep you get. I haven't had any trouble sleeping on UA redeye flights. Bring some eye shades and ,most importantly, noise cancelling earphones.
However, if the only criteria is getting some sleep before a business meeting, I'd go for the nonstop. You reduce the stress of a connection and get to the hotel faster to have a last chance to settle in and take a quality nap. On this short a flight, a lie flat bed is not going to do much to enhance the sleep you get. I haven't had any trouble sleeping on UA redeye flights. Bring some eye shades and ,most importantly, noise cancelling earphones.




