The end for the 747?
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I think it depends on passenger load/cargo load/distance.
Regardless, neither is as efficient as the more recent twin engine long haul aircraft (777-300ER, 787-8, 330-300). And everything currently flying will be less efficient than the next generation of twin engine long haul aircraft.
Considering that the passenger loads and range of the next generation will approach the 744, it is easy to see why the era of the four engine jet airliner as coming to an end.
Regardless, neither is as efficient as the more recent twin engine long haul aircraft (777-300ER, 787-8, 330-300). And everything currently flying will be less efficient than the next generation of twin engine long haul aircraft.
Considering that the passenger loads and range of the next generation will approach the 744, it is easy to see why the era of the four engine jet airliner as coming to an end.
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I would say that they are more the equivalent of the Ford LTD and who the heck toodles about in something that absurd now days but then I think of all the single occupants I see in Yukons and Escalades on any given freeway...
America. *facepalm*
I've got some nostalgic nerves about flying ORD-SAN or DEN-SAN in one of those monsters for sure but its' the same nod to the ridiculous i have about mom's Cadillac... WHAT WERE WE THINKING??
America. *facepalm*
I've got some nostalgic nerves about flying ORD-SAN or DEN-SAN in one of those monsters for sure but its' the same nod to the ridiculous i have about mom's Cadillac... WHAT WERE WE THINKING??
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From what I heard from some LH people is that they are not very happy with the 748i. LH will fly them but will switch mainly to 777x and A350 in the future. For LH Cargo they will order the 777F instead of the 748f.
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I will miss it when it's gone, mainly because it's the plane I'll always associate with my younger days when I first began flying long-haul. I'll always associate the 747 (and, to a lesser extent, the L-10-11) with an era when international air travel was still kind of special. I liked the fact that to board one, you usually walked out onto the tarmac. You'd look up at it and marvel at how enormous it was...you don't get quite the same sense of awe boarding at a modern terminal with jetbridges.
That said, I don't think it's going anywhere. It'll be flying in pretty substantial numbers into the 2020's even if nobody is buying new ones today.
That said, I don't think it's going anywhere. It'll be flying in pretty substantial numbers into the 2020's even if nobody is buying new ones today.
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Why is it a blemish, other than for Boeing's business, which presumably spent a lot on developing the variant that it won't recoup?
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I thought for sure I would be flying in this one any day now. 

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I will miss it when it's gone, mainly because it's the plane I'll always associate with my younger days when I first began flying long-haul. I'll always associate the 747 (and, to a lesser extent, the L-10-11) with an era when international air travel was still kind of special. I liked the fact that to board one, you usually walked out onto the tarmac. You'd look up at it and marvel at how enormous it was...you don't get quite the same sense of awe boarding at a modern terminal with jetbridges.
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747-8 NatGeo program (currently what I'm watching to procrastinate)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFhBNCHCIMs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFhBNCHCIMs
Always liked the 747.
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" I'm sure every element of the plane has been reengineered and modernized multiple times, but it's still the same platform those guys put together eons ago.
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Simple answer: No. Boeing has too much invested in it to stop making the 747. Some airlines may drop them in favor of newer technology and more fuel efficient planes but they will continue to show up in use for many airlines for the foreseeable future.
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The freight comment has shown up in a few posts on this topic. I met a pilot for Nippon Freight recently who was telling me that they don't like the 747 for freight. He says that it can carry so much weight that their fuel utilization is not very good. In his case, he was flying Japan to Anchorage and then having an overnight stop to refuel before going on. He said on some of the smaller, more fuel efficient aircraft that they can go all the way to Atlanta or Chicago, etc. on a single tank of fuel which means they get to be home more.
But agree the 747 certainly seems to have an ongoing role here.
But agree the 747 certainly seems to have an ongoing role here.
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The 737 entered service before the 747, yet no one is predicting the "end of the 737."
Obviously no one would order a 737-200 these days. The current offerings are substantially different (other than the basic concept).
Whether the current version of the 747 is different enough and relevant enough for today's air travel needs will certainly be decided by the market. But to simply say it's 45 years old, as though that's an adequate explanation, is kind of short-sighted. Heck, the Corvette is 60 years old but no one is predicting its demise, either.
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I will miss it when it's gone, mainly because it's the plane I'll always associate with my younger days when I first began flying long-haul. I'll always associate the 747 (and, to a lesser extent, the L-10-11) with an era when international air travel was still kind of special. I liked the fact that to board one, you usually walked out onto the tarmac. You'd look up at it and marvel at how enormous it was...you don't get quite the same sense of awe boarding at a modern terminal with jetbridges.
That said, I don't think it's going anywhere. It'll be flying in pretty substantial numbers into the 2020's even if nobody is buying new ones today.
That said, I don't think it's going anywhere. It'll be flying in pretty substantial numbers into the 2020's even if nobody is buying new ones today.

