Originally Posted by geotravel
(Post 21456920)
Officer wrote 110km in 60km zone. (50km over!) $196 ticket. I am sure I was not going that fast b/c I was on the Sea to Sky highway going to Whistler mountain and going at 110km there would be a suicide.
If the ticket goes to court, the Crown could apply to have the ticket adjusted from section 146 to section 148 which would not be in your favour. Based on the above I would pay the ticket and count your blessings.
Originally Posted by j_the_p
(Post 21458623)
You're lucky to get away with such a small fine. 50km over in Ontario would have meant your vehicle would be automatically impounded and a $10,000 fine.
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Originally Posted by Tshoobaka
(Post 21458184)
Just pay if you want to go back and I actually find it strange that you haven't already had additional fees from Avis for getting a ticket with their rental
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Originally Posted by geotravel
(Post 21456920)
I got a speeding ticket two weeks ago in Vancouver, BC driving a rental car from Avis which I rented at Seattle airport. Officer wrote 110km in 60km zone. (50km over!) $196 ticket. I am sure I was not going that fast b/c I was on the Sea to Sky highway going to Whistler mountain and going at 110km there would be a suicide. I have since returned to NY. Points do not transfer to NYS License. Should I pay this ticket? I travel to Canada (usually drive) twice a year. I have a feeling that if I don't pay this ticket then I might have problem entering Canada?
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I've driven this road and the speed limits in many of the parts are far too low.
But, I still did the speed limit because I didn't want a ticket. Personally, I would pay it because it's not at all worth the possible consequences. I can easily see how a ticket for 20 or more kph wouldn't be hard to end up with on this road. We Americans are used to traveling at 60 or 70mph on highways and a lot of the Sea to Sky is big and wide and would be easy to get a little ahead of yourself. I thought it was one of the prettiest roads I've ever been on but also very annoying because the speeds are so low. Just put the cruise on and go. |
Originally Posted by RussianTexan
(Post 21458857)
Pathetic revenue generators. Disgusting.
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I believe it was after (and due to) NAFTA but there is information sharing of violations between the states and provinces.
You will have issues with NYS DMV and probably your insurance if the BC violation is not taken care of. |
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Originally Posted by ne52
I believe it was after (and due to) NAFTA but there is information sharing of violations between the states and provinces.
You will have issues with NYS DMV and probably your insurance if the BC violation is not taken care of. "Insurance companies have point systems that are different from the DMV driver violation point system. The two point systems are not related. Contact your insurance company about their point system. Except for Ontario and Quebec, points are not added to your NYS driver record if you commit an out-of-state traffic violation. Points can appear on your NYS driver record if you commit a traffic violation in Ontario or Quebec." |
Sea to Sky? Is that 101 going up the coast? Of the 'ton' of tickets I got, 4 were on that road over 2 days.
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Originally Posted by guv1976
(Post 21461651)
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From the NYS DMV website: "Insurance companies have point systems that are different from the DMV driver violation point system. The two point systems are not related. Contact your insurance company about their point system. Except for Ontario and Quebec, points are not added to your NYS driver record if you commit an out-of-state traffic violation. Points can appear on your NYS driver record if you commit a traffic violation in Ontario or Quebec." The legal & financial consequences of doing nothing are worse than either of the alternatives: 1) paying up; 2) contesting. |
Originally Posted by trooper
(Post 21457516)
Add me to the "Just pay" chorus. |
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Originally Posted by Often1
Originally Posted by guv1976
(Post 21461651)
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From the NYS DMV website: "Insurance companies have point systems that are different from the DMV driver violation point system. The two point systems are not related. Contact your insurance company about their point system. Except for Ontario and Quebec, points are not added to your NYS driver record if you commit an out-of-state traffic violation. Points can appear on your NYS driver record if you commit a traffic violation in Ontario or Quebec." The legal & financial consequences of doing nothing are worse than either of the alternatives: 1) paying up; 2) contesting. |
Originally Posted by MissJ
(Post 21461498)
I've driven this road and the speed limits in many of the parts are far too low.
Originally Posted by MissJ
(Post 21461498)
Just put the cruise on and go.
Originally Posted by tomvonc
(Post 21461671)
Sea to Sky? Is that 101 going up the coast?
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Re-reading the first post, I see that the OP is aware that the points do not transfer from B.C. to N.Y.S. Whether the OP's insurance company will learn of a B.C. speeding conviction is another matter. |
Got speeding ticket in Vancouver BC, I am from NYS
Understood that the points do not apply. However, I'm assuming he intends to renew his NYS license at some point. That's when the BC violation will bite him.
If it proceeds to court it also keeps him from using the online DMV for a period even after its cleared up. Any way to avoid going to the DMV in person is also reason enough to pay this. It's not fun to pay but the US does it for Canada and Canada does it for the US. They're not letting anyone take away potential revenue. |
I'm pretty sure this is right but someone can correct me if I'm not. You aren't legally required to pay the ticket if you are not reentering Canada as the RCMP has no precidence in BC; however if you fail to appear in court after not paying the ticket the judge can issue a warrent for your arrest but that warrent is only for BC. It will show up when you are entering the country but it will be up to CBS to decide whether to grant you access to Canada unless you are entering BC where they will have to execute the warrent. They are able to contact a judge in BC and ask whether they would like to extend the warrent Canada wide (which normally doesn't happen) .
For fighting it, you are allowed to appear at a majistrate and heard the full extent and reasoning behind the charges. If you tell them you are appearing in court they will often try and settle with you to avoid straining the legal system. Also if you or someone on your behalf attends court and the police officer does not appear the ticket is immediately thrown out. Typically I don't recommend having a lawyer represent you in a case with a low dollar value loke this one as you will probably end up paying the same amount just in legal fees. But if you have contacts in BC anyone of them can go to court on your behalf provided that you give them notice of your consent to show the judge |
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