Renewed US passport, now my unexpired Indian visa gone!!!
Aug 4, 2012, 8:19 pm
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Renewed US passport, now my unexpired Indian visa gone!!!
So, I had my Indian visa on my US passport which expired in July, so I sent it off to get a new passport. I got back the new US passport, but they did not send back my old one...which means that now I do not have my Indian visa. Has this happened to anyone? What do I do now? Will I have to pay to get a new visa or can they look up records and put in a new visa? Any suggestions would mpbe much appreciated.
Thanks.
D.
Thanks.
D.
Aug 4, 2012, 8:21 pm
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Did you tell them that you needed it back? When my passport was renewed they punched a couple of holes in the cover of the old one and sent it back to me. When I go to India both passports go with me.
Probably too late to get it back but you can try.
Good Luck
Probably too late to get it back but you can try.
Good Luck
Aug 4, 2012, 8:27 pm
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Ughs. I was under the impression the old passport would be sent back...did not see any place on the form asking me about it.
Aug 4, 2012, 9:48 pm
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Thank you for your replies...MII-SBM,Rampo and reuvenh...so relieved to hear this. I got the new passport today...so that means the old one is on its way back then. (sigh of relief).
Aug 5, 2012, 12:50 am
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The last time I renewed, the old passport came under separate cover about a week later.(Don't worry - if I hadn't known, I would have stressed, too! I had to pay a lot of money for my Indian visa...certainly wouldn't look forward to having to pay that again if my old one hadn't expired.)
Aug 5, 2012, 6:30 am
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What everyone else said.
I've had times where I've had to submit copies of ALL of my passports (including expired ones) as part of an application for various things. Can't remember what offhand, though. Security clearance and a Russian work visa (which I was denied), I think.
I've had times where I've had to submit copies of ALL of my passports (including expired ones) as part of an application for various things. Can't remember what offhand, though. Security clearance and a Russian work visa (which I was denied), I think.
Aug 5, 2012, 7:22 pm
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Q:I'm renewing my passport. Do I get the old one back?
a:Yes, we return the old, cancelled passport to you although it may be sent separately from your new passport. It is a good idea to keep it in a safe place as it is considered proof of your U.S. citizenship.
a:Yes, we return the old, cancelled passport to you although it may be sent separately from your new passport. It is a good idea to keep it in a safe place as it is considered proof of your U.S. citizenship.
Aug 6, 2012, 7:34 am
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Just one caveat. If you get your passport replaced because it is damaged, they do NOT return the old damaged one to you.
I was majorly annoyed because the one they didn't return had some of my coolest entry/exit stamps (from places like British Antarctic Territory, Saint Helena, and Ascension Island).
I was majorly annoyed because the one they didn't return had some of my coolest entry/exit stamps (from places like British Antarctic Territory, Saint Helena, and Ascension Island).
Aug 6, 2012, 8:47 am
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Just one caveat. If you get your passport replaced because it is damaged, they do NOT return the old damaged one to you.
I was majorly annoyed because the one they didn't return had some of my coolest entry/exit stamps (from places like British Antarctic Territory, Saint Helena, and Ascension Island).
I was majorly annoyed because the one they didn't return had some of my coolest entry/exit stamps (from places like British Antarctic Territory, Saint Helena, and Ascension Island).
Aug 6, 2012, 10:24 am
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Aug 6, 2012, 2:26 pm
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Wait.. so if you get a new passport, you can take your old passport with the visas, and still use them?!
wow sweet, i never knew.
I'm getting india and 10 year brazil visa.. good to know they don't go with the passport life!
wow sweet, i never knew.
I'm getting india and 10 year brazil visa.. good to know they don't go with the passport life!
Aug 6, 2012, 2:38 pm
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[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.3/Diamond - TIMATIC: Country Information: Visa]
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[Visa Information] India (IN)
Additional Information:
- Valid visas in expired passports are still acceptable,
provided accompanied by a valid passport of the same
nationality of the expired passport.
- The passport number is recorded on the Person of Indian
Origin (PIO) Card. If the passport has been renewed, it is
required to hold the old passport (the number of which is
recorded on the PIO) and the new passport.
- Holders of multiple entry Tourist Visas (type T), with a
validity ranging from above 3 months and up to 10 years, are
required to have at least 60 days between visits. Those
wishing to re-enter before the 60 days have expired must
contact an Indian mission abroad to obtain permission.
Travelers intending to make side-trips to neighbouring
countries as part of the same journey, should submit details
of their complete itinerary, with supporting documentation,
such as reservations, to an Indian mission or to the
immigration officer upon initial entry into India, to obtain
permission for multiple entries as part of that journey.
The Tourist Visa is non-extendable. Visitors are required to
register with the Foreigner's Regional Registration Office
(FRRO) within 14 days of re-entry.
- Visa exemption does not apply to nationals of Cyprus,
Hungary, Israel, Lao People's Dem. Rep., Russian Fed. and
Tajikistan holding diplomatic or official passport, if
employed by an international organization.
- Nationals of any country other than Bhutan, Maldives and
Nepal, belonging to a Tourist Group arriving by air for a
stay of a specified period: Travel agency (approved by the
Indian Ministry of Tourism) should obtain prior permission
from the Immigration Officer in charge. The representative
of the local travel agency will be held responsible for
accompanying the group at all times during their stay in
India. Permission to enter the country will be granted only
upon submission of the name of the group, the number of
passengers, details of the itinerary (incl. port of
departure) and passport number, date of birth and
nationality of each passenger.
- Holders of the Overseas Citizen of India (OCI) registration
certificate (booklet) are issued with a U type visa. It is
not required to carry the OCI booklet. A "U" visa cancels
any other type of visa issued by India. If the passport is
renewed, the OCI "U" type visa issued in the old passport
remains valid; it is required to hold both passports.
- Visa extensions possible, except for "T" (tourist) visas and
Transit visas, by applying at the Ministry of Foreign
Affairs.
- Restricted/Protected Area Permits: A permit is required for
foreigners (SEE NOTE 23756) wishing to visit the following:
Protected Areas:
- Parts of State of Manipur
- Parts of State of Mizoram
- Parts of State of Arunachal Pradesh
- Whole of State of Nagaland
- Whole of State of Sikkim
- Parts of State of Uttaranchal.
- Parts of State of Jammu and Kashmir.
- Parts of State of Rajasthan .
- Parts of State of Himachal Pradesh.
Restricted Areas:
- Whole of Union Territory of Andaman & Nicobar Islands
- Part of the state of Sikkim.
NOTE 23756: Not required for nationals of:
- Bhutan travelling by air to/from Bhutan via Bagdodra;
- Nepal travelling by air to/from Kathmandu.
However, if surface travel is involved and nationals travel
via restricted areas, they require a "pass" issued by
either the Foreigners Regional Registration Office (located
in each major Indian city) or Superintendent of police
(located in each Indian district) or the diplomatic
representation of India in Bhutan or Nepal.
Visa required.
Visa Exemptions:
- Nationals of India.
- Nationals of Bhutan and Nepal. However, if arriving from
mainland China (People's Rep.) a visa is required (note:
does not incl. Hong Kong (SAR China) or Macao (SAR China)).
- Nationals of El Salvador and Maldives for a stay of max. 90
days.
- Holders of diplomatic passports :
- for a max stay of 90 days, being nationals of Armenia,
Germany, Japan, Macedonia (FYROM), Romania and Turkey;
- for a max. stay of 30 days, being nationals of Bangladesh.
- Holders of diplomatic and official passports:
- being nationals of Belarus, Denmark and Singapore;
- for a max. stay of 90 days, being nationals of Argentina,
Brazil, Bulgaria, Ecuador, Chile, Colombia, Cyprus, Guyana,
Honduras, Hungary, Israel, Korea (Rep. of), Malaysia,
Mauritius, Mexico, Mongolia, Myanmar, Paraguay, Peru,
Russian Fed., Serbia, South Africa, Thailand, Venezuela or
Vietnam;
- for a max. stay of 60 days, being nationals of Cambodia or
Syria;
- for a max. stay of 30 days, being nationals of Croatia,
Indonesia, Kazakhstan, Lao People's Dem. Rep., Philippines,
Tajikistan or Uruguay;
- Holders of diplomatic, official and service passports being
nationals of Nicaragua for a max. stay of 90 days.
- Holders of diplomatic, official, servie and special
passports being nationals of Egypt for a max. stay of 90
days.
- Holders of a Re-entry Permit issued by India.
- Holders of Person of Indian Origin (PIO) Card.
TWOV (Transit Without Visa):
- Holders of confirmed onward tickets for a max. transit
[[TIRULES/R32]] time of 24 hours.
- Not applicable to stateless persons and refugees.
- Hotel facilities are available in Terminal 3 at Delhi (DEL),
provided holding boarding card for connecting flight.
Merchant Seamen:
- Visa is not required for nationals of India, Buthan,
Maldives and Nepal.
- Merchant Seamen arriving by air in order to board a ship, or
if arriving by ship in order to board an aircraft must
travel on duty and hold a Seaman Book together with a
passport and a Letter of Guarantee of the shipping company.
Crew Members:
- Operating Crew: visa not required provided cleared on
Temporary Landing Permit and departing at the same time.
Positioning Crew: same regulations as for passengers apply.
Military:
- Same regulations as for passengers apply.
Visa Issuance:
- Holders of normal passports issued to nationals of Cambodia,
Finland, Indonesia, Japan, Lao People's Dem. Rep., Myanmar,
Luxembourg, New Zealand, Philippines, Singapore and Viet Nam
(SEE NOTE 43220) (SEE NOTE 43221) (SEE NOTE 43222) (SEE NOTE
43223) traveling as tourist or visiting family or friends
can obtain a visa on arrival, for a max. stay of 30 days,
provided holding:
- passport which must valid at least 6 months on arrival;
and
- return/onward ticket; and
- sufficient funds; and
- one passport size photograph; and
- re-entry permit, if required by country of nationality.
Fee: USD 60.-, or equivalent in INR.
Visa on arrival allows only a single entry for a max. of 2
times in a calendar year with a minimum gap of 60 days
between each visit.
NOTE 43220: Facility available at Chennai (MAA) airport.
NOTE 43221: Facility available at Delhi (DEL) airport.
NOTE 43222: Facility available at Kolkata (CCU) airport.
NOTE 43223: Facility available at Mumbai (BOM) airport.
Warning:
- Holders of normal passports issued by Pakistan are required
to hold two copies of their visa application form (issued by
the Indian Mission concerned).
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