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Old Dec 19, 2016, 2:09 pm
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Originally Posted by jrl767
1. It’s noon and you’ve just sat down to a delicious Philly Cheesesteak sandwich at Jimmy G's Steaks on N. Broad St. in Philadelphia. Mmmm! Nobody makes a cheesesteak better than Jimmy G! Nobody! Suddenly your bulky new cell phone rings. It’s The Boss and she wants you to help out on a contract negotiation in Oklahoma City as soon as possible. Righty-O, Boss! We’re on it! A quick call to your favorite travel agency reveals that although there are no nonstop flights to OKC, you’re still in luck – the PHL-OKC market is served by a single one-stop direct flight each day. The aircraft doesn’t offer a First Class cabin but the late afternoon departure is perfectly timed for your needs. Identify the airline, the aircraft and the enroute stop.
Braniff via MCI has been correctly identified. We're still looking for the aircraft type.

In its later incarnations I believe BN operated all-Y-configured A320s

That's correct, J, however the aircraft we're looking for in this question is not built by Airbus. Please, guess again!
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Old Dec 19, 2016, 2:11 pm
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THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS ARE BASED UPON SCHEDULES PUBLISHED IN A 1989 OAG

1. It’s noon and you’ve just sat down to a delicious Philly Cheesesteak sandwich at Jimmy G's Steaks on N. Broad St. in Philadelphia. Mmmm! Nobody makes a cheesesteak better than Jimmy G! Nobody! Suddenly your bulky new cell phone rings. It’s The Boss and she wants you to help out on a contract negotiation in Oklahoma City as soon as possible. Righty-O, Boss! We’re on it! A quick call to your favorite travel agency reveals that although there are no nonstop flights to OKC, you’re still in luck – the PHL-OKC market is served by a single one-stop direct flight each day. The aircraft doesn’t offer a First Class cabin but the late afternoon departure is perfectly timed for your needs. Identify the airline, the aircraft and the enroute stop.
A N S W E R E D

2. You’re spending a beautiful afternoon out at San Francisco’s Bayfront Park, directly opposite the approach end of runways 28L & 28R. All of the international airlines at SFO use these runways and your new Nikkor 400mm zoom lens is proving to be an excellent investment for an avid plane spotter and photographer like you. An aircraft comes into view on final from the south. Whut tha… Oh my Gawd! Is that what you think it is?! It is!!! It’s an L-1011 (Not a -500) operated by a foreign airline! You didn’t know any foreign carriers operated L-1011s into SFO! Maybe LTU with a -500 on a charter but a standard 1011? No way! A quick check of your accompanying OAGs reveals that a single foreign airline operates a single thrice weekly flight into SFO. As the approaching aircraft fills your lens, you snap off a couple of beautiful shots. Just wait’ll the gang in your photography club see these! Identify the airline who’s L1011 you are photographing. Bonus points if you can also identify the airport from which this aircraft last departed.
HINT: The airline is not from Asia or Europe

5. In terms of flights featuring jet aircraft operating intra-state flights within Colorado, the Denver to Colorado Springs route is the busiest. Three airlines combine to offer eleven jet flights on that route, in addition to a handful of propeller operated flights. For this question however, we’re looking for the second busiest Colorado intra-state market with jet operated flights. Identify that market and the two airlines serving it. A cyber pat on the back to anyone who can also identify the three different jet types operated on this route.
A N S W E R E D

6. It’s a dreary autumn afternoon in Saginaw, Michigan. Rain has been falling all weekend and your Detroit Lions are off to a miserable 1-8 start with an overtime loss to the Green Bay Packers. During the post-game discussion on WKQZ, a trivia question is posed with the prize being a one way flight to Hartford, Connecticut. One way? Hartford?!! Whut tha..! Oh whatever! Anywhere but Saginaw!

Here’s the question: Which Detroit quarterback holds the record for rushing yards in a single season? Gasp! You know this one! You quickly dial the station. The phone rings and rings. On the radio you listen anxiously as two callers ahead of you provide the wrong answer. Bobby Layne? Eric Hipple?! Pffft! Those clowns don't have a clue! Finally it’s your turn and you correctly identify Greg Landry who in 1971 gained 530 yards while maintaining a 7.0 yards per carry average. “Get outta town!” shouts the host. “You’re going to Hartford!” But wait! There’s an added bonus! You’ll fly to Hartford in First Class if you can correctly identify which team Landry is currently coaching for. Hmm… "ten seconds" warns the host. Okay, uh… let’s go with Da Bears! A long suspenseful pause follows and then the host shouts “You’ve been upgraded!!” Right on! Are there any questions that’ll get you from Hartford back to Saginaw? Sorry, sez the host. You’re on your own there, buddy! Come on down to the station and we’ll get you on your way.

From Saginaw you learn that not only are there no nonstops to Hartford but you’ll be flying aboard the only direct flight out of MBS to Hartford. It operates once daily and makes one enroute stop. Not many airlines have flown through Saginaw over the years, so what’s surprising is that this flight is on an airline that you didn’t even know flew into Saginaw. Good thing that trivia question wasn’t about airlines, you muse as you throw a few essentials into your carry-on bag. Identify the airline, the aircraft and the enroute stop you’ll make while flying to Hartford.

7. Talk about a Fifth Freedom gem! This airline provides a once weekly nonstop flight between Houston and Mexico City aboard a single aisle jetliner offering single class service and a luncheon enroute. A hot lunch?! Well that seals it! You’re on your way to Mexico City! Identify the airline and the aircraft you’ll be flying upon.

10. You’re in Kissimmee, Florida and need to get to Atlantic City post haste. Your lawyers have called for a meeting to discuss developments in your lawsuit against Donald Trump who has thus far refused to pay for work you’ve done on his soon to be opened Taj Mahal Casino. As you abhor flying aboard the small commuter props that typically serve ACY from the big eastern hub airports, you usually fly into Philly and drive to Atlantic City from there. This time however, time is of the essence even if it means squeezing all 6’5” of you aboard yet another Twin Otter or Shorts 360. A quick check of the schedules reveals a nice surprise in the form of an airline you’ve never heard of before. It offers a single twice weekly direct jet flight between Orlando and Atlantic City. One enroute stop is made and as luck would have it, there’s a flight leaving this afternoon! Identify the airline, the aircraft and the enroute stop.

11. Even though it’s 1989, it’s still possible to fly nonstop aboard a large turboprop airliner between an airport in the continental United States and Mexico City. Identify the US gateway airport, the airline and the aircraft utilized on this route.


THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS ARE BASED UPON SCHEDULES PUBLISHED IN A 1966 OAG

13. If you wanted to fly aboard an all economy class jet between Memphis and Little Rock, which airline would you call and what type of aircraft would you be flying upon?
It's not a Trans-Texas DC-9

23. Since we’re on the subject of Canada, identify each of the Canadian cities that were served by U.S. airlines in 1966 as well as the U.S. airlines that provided trans-border flights. Don't worry about the routes - though you're welcome to post them if you like.
This question is in play. Please scroll to the relevant responses to see where we're at so far...

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Old Dec 19, 2016, 3:28 pm
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THE FOLLOWING QUESTION IS BASED UPON SCHEDULES PUBLISHED IN A 1989 OAG

[2. You’re spending a beautiful afternoon out at San Francisco’s Bayfront Park, directly opposite the approach end of runways 28L & 28R. All of the international airlines at SFO use these runways and your new Nikkor 400mm zoom lens is proving to be an excellent investment for an avid plane spotter and photographer like you. An aircraft comes into view on final from the south. Whut tha… Oh my Gawd! Is that what you think it is?! It is!!! It’s an L-1011 (Not a -500) operated by a foreign airline! You didn’t know any foreign carriers operated L-1011s into SFO! Maybe LTU with a -500 on a charter but a standard 1011? No way! A quick check of your accompanying OAGs reveals that a single foreign airline operates a single thrice weekly flight into SFO. As the approaching aircraft fills your lens, you snap off a couple of beautiful shots. Just wait’ll the gang in your photography club see these! Identify the airline who’s L1011 you are photographing. Bonus points if you can also identify the airport from which this aircraft last departed.
HINT: The airline is not from Asia or Europe
2. Another day, another wild guess.....

AeroPeru operating a TriStar on a routing of LIM-MEX-LAX-SFO.
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Old Dec 19, 2016, 4:05 pm
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2. An aircraft comes into view on final from the south of SFO. Whut tha… Oh my Gawd! Is that what you think it is?! It is!!! It’s an L-1011 (Not a -500) operated by a foreign airline! You didn’t know any foreign carriers operated L-1011s into SFO! Maybe LTU with a -500 on a charter but a standard 1011? No way! A quick check of your accompanying OAGs reveals that a single foreign airline operates a single thrice weekly flight into SFO.

AeroPeru operating a TriStar on a routing of LIM-MEX-LAX-SFO.

An excellent guess, Sir! But alas, the airline we're looking for was not AeroPeru with its enticing downstairs lounge. Please, guess again!
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Old Dec 20, 2016, 8:49 am
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off to a miserable 1-8 start
I run for 8 wickets ? The England cricket team in India this week, presumably

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/38377904
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Old Dec 20, 2016, 9:42 am
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Originally Posted by Seat 2A
THE FOLLOWING QUESTION IS BASED UPON SCHEDULES PUBLISHED IN A 1989 OAG

1. It’s noon and you’ve just sat down to a delicious Philly Cheesesteak sandwich at Jimmy G's Steaks on N. Broad St. in Philadelphia. Mmmm! Nobody makes a cheesesteak better than Jimmy G! Nobody! Suddenly your bulky new cell phone rings. It’s The Boss and she wants you to help out on a contract negotiation in Oklahoma City as soon as possible. Righty-O, Boss! We’re on it! A quick call to your favorite travel agency reveals that although there are no nonstop flights to OKC, you’re still in luck – the PHL-OKC market is served by a single one-stop direct flight each day. The aircraft doesn’t offer a First Class cabin but the late afternoon departure is perfectly timed for your needs. Identify the airline, the aircraft and the enroute stop.
Braniff via MCI has been correctly identified. We're still looking for the aircraft type.
Let's go with a Boeing 727-200.
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Old Dec 20, 2016, 10:48 am
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Originally Posted by Seat 2A
THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS ARE BASED UPON SCHEDULES PUBLISHED IN A 1989 OAG
5. In terms of flights featuring jet aircraft operating intra-state flights within Colorado, the Denver to Colorado Springs route is the busiest. Three airlines combine to offer eleven jet flights on that route, in addition to a handful of propeller operated flights. For this question however, we’re looking for the second busiest Colorado intra-state market with jet operated flights. Identify that market and the two airlines serving it. A cyber pat on the back to anyone who can also identify the three different jet types operated on this route.
HINT: The two airlines combine to offer a total of four daily jet flights.
we already know that GJT isn't the destination we are looking for, so how about Aspen (ASE); I'd guess the airlines were the destination namesake and United Express (Air Wisconsin?), both operating the BAe 146-200, and UX (ZW) adding the 146-300 and the Dornier 328JET
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Old Dec 20, 2016, 12:34 pm
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Originally Posted by jlemon
1. It’s noon and you’ve just sat down to a delicious Philly Cheesesteak sandwich at Jimmy G's Steaks on N. Broad St. in Philadelphia. Mmmm! Nobody makes a cheesesteak better than Jimmy G! Nobody! Suddenly your bulky new cell phone rings. It’s The Boss and she wants you to help out on a contract negotiation in Oklahoma City as soon as possible. Righty-O, Boss! We’re on it! A quick call to your favorite travel agency reveals that although there are no nonstop flights to OKC, you’re still in luck – the PHL-OKC market is served by a single one-stop direct flight each day. The aircraft doesn’t offer a First Class cabin but the late afternoon departure is perfectly timed for your needs. Identify the airline, the aircraft and the enroute stop.
Braniff via MCI has been correctly identified. We're still looking for the aircraft type.

Let's go with a Boeing 727-200.

I'm sorry, JL, but the 727 was identified as the possible equipment by st1575 back in post 10298. It's clearly a good choice when considering Braniff flights but alas - it's the wrong choice for this flight. Please - deposit another quarter and play again!
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Old Dec 20, 2016, 12:40 pm
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1- BN, PHL-xxx-OKC; not a 727/72S, not a 320 ... I'm thinking their One-Elevens were still extant in 1989
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Old Dec 20, 2016, 12:56 pm
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THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS ARE BASED UPON SCHEDULES PUBLISHED IN A 1989 OAG
5. In terms of flights featuring jet aircraft operating intra-state flights within Colorado, the Denver to Colorado Springs route is the busiest. Three airlines combine to offer eleven jet flights on that route, in addition to a handful of propeller operated flights. For this question however, we’re looking for the second busiest Colorado intra-state market with jet operated flights. Identify that market and the two airlines serving it. A cyber pat on the back to anyone who can also identify the three different jet types operated on this route.

HINT: The two airlines combine to offer a total of four daily jet flights.

We already know that GJT isn't the destination we are looking for, so how about Aspen (ASE); I'd guess the airlines were the destination namesake and United Express (Air Wisconsin?), both operating the BAe 146-200, and UX (ZW) adding the 146-300 and the Dornier 328JET

You'd think, wouldn't you? I know I would, but then I'd be wrong, too. A quick review of the DEN-ASE market reveals a total of three 146s operated by United Express affiliate Aspen Airways. The largest equipment operated by competitor Continental Express was a DHC-7. Please, guess again!

Re. Question 1: The PHL-OKC market is served by a single one-stop direct flight each day. The aircraft doesn’t offer a First Class cabin but the late afternoon departure is perfectly timed for your needs. Identify the airline, the aircraft and the enroute stop.
Braniff via MCI has been correctly identified. We're still looking for the aircraft type (Not 727 or A320).

BN, PHL-xxx-OKC; not a 727/72S, not a 320 ... I'm thinking their One-Elevens were still extant in 1989

And you would be correct, J. However, per the schedule I reference (Late 1989) the only BN flights I could find being operated with BAC-111s show to be discontinued after October 14th. Braniff II was on its last legs by then, flying its last flights in late December of 1989.

In any event, the aircraft we're looking for in question 1 was not a BAC-111. Trial and error will eventually get this one. It better! Otherwise we're gonna have to call in - gasp! - That's right - WHBM! !



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1- once again applying process of elimination, it has to be a 737, because I'm highly confident that no DC9 series jet ever sported Braniff livery
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5. In terms of flights featuring jet aircraft operating intra-state flights within Colorado, the Denver to Colorado Springs route is the busiest. Three airlines combine to offer eleven jet flights on that route, in addition to a handful of propeller operated flights. For this question however, we’re looking for the second busiest Colorado intra-state market with jet operated flights. Identify that market and the two airlines serving it. A cyber pat on the back to anyone who can also identify the three different jet types operated on this route.
HINT: The two airlines combine to offer a total of four daily jet flights.
Ok, I am going to go with Colorado Springs-Pueblo with America West operating a 737-200 and TWA operating a 727-200 and a MD-82

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the aircraft we're looking for in question 1 was not a BAC-111.
The early 200 series BAC One-Elevens that The Second Coming Of Braniff had also wouldn't have had the range to do Philly to Kansas City nonstop.

JL has just beaten me to it but Braniff 2 had a sizeable fleet of 737s, some of the earliest models. This included the complete fleet from American, who of course had never bought the type at that time but inherited them from Air Cal when they merged them. They were doubtless pretty grateful to lease them on long term contracts to Braniff - and equally dismayed when they went under and they not only got them all back again, but apparently the leases had not been paid for a considerable time. As I understand it they never flew commercially again. The early 737s had a poor reputation for developing airframe corrosion.

Bonus Question (possibly asking jrl to stand by if the answer's too easy for him). The first 100 or so early 737s (including most of those Braniff 2 ones) were assembled at a different plant to all the subsequent ones. Where were they built ?

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Originally Posted by WHBM

Bonus Question (possibly asking jrl to stand by if the answer's too easy for him). The first 100 or so early 737s (including most of those Braniff 2 ones) were assembled at a different plant to all the subsequent ones. Where were they built ?
They were built at Boeing field before moving to Renton where they are final assembled now. Most of the fuselage is built elsewhere and brought in by train to Renton where the final assembly occurs adding the wings and interiors. A few years back, one of these trains derailed causing some of these fuselages to tumble down an embankment. I think they were able to salvage a few of them.
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