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27- if memory serves, Texas International provided the only service into ABI at this time, so that says one of the stops was certainly Dallas/DFW … I’ll guess this flight was a DC-9-10 that continued to Houston/IAH and that the connecting point was New Orleans/MSY; the second leg was likely an Eastern 727-100 stopping in Miami/MIA
28- let’s try a BWIA 707 to Miami, connecting to a National 727-200 via Tampa/TPA and Houston/IAH
28- let’s try a BWIA 707 to Miami, connecting to a National 727-200 via Tampa/TPA and Houston/IAH
27. Texas International was indeed the only airline operating jet service into Abilene at this time (years later the original Frontier attempted 737-200 service to Denver via Midland/Odessa but these flights only lasted a short while) and the aircraft operated by TI on the flight was a DC-9-10 with stops at Dallas/Fort Worth and Houston Intercontinental.
However, the connection was not made in New Orleans and Eastern wasn't the airline operating the second flight which did not make a stop in Miami. But the second flight was operated with a 727-100.
28. BWIA and National were not involved with this itinerary and neither are the 707 and 727-200. The connection was not made in Miami and the second flight did not stop in either Tampa or Houston Intercontinental.
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Douglas DC-8-33 - Philippine Airlines (KLM - Royal Dutch Airlines) | Aviation Photo #0253081 | Airliners.net
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27- all right … let’s take that TI DC9 to Mexico City/MEX, and transfer to a Mexicana 727 stopping in Merida/MID before KIN
28- Air Jamaica DC-9-30 on a short cross-island hop to Montego Bay/ MBJ; thence a Delta DC-8-61 to LAS via New Orleans/MSY and Dallas/DFW
28- Air Jamaica DC-9-30 on a short cross-island hop to Montego Bay/ MBJ; thence a Delta DC-8-61 to LAS via New Orleans/MSY and Dallas/DFW
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25. It's 1973 and you've just concluded a business assignment in Mexico City. Now it's time for yet another adventure....and that means flying to Belem in Brazil where you'll board a river steamer for a cruise up the Amazon River. You discover that one airline can get you there although a connection with a connecting interval just under four hours will be required. But that's no problem as it will enable you to have dinner overlooking the ocean with an old friend who lives near the airport where you will make your connection. Your first flight will make two stops en route and your second flight will make one stop en route. Different aircraft types built by the same manufacturer will be operated on each flight. Identify the air carrier, the two stops made by the first flight, the connecting airport, the stop made by the second flight and the different aircraft types.
Varig had a couple of everything for long-haul aircraft (surprising they didn't get the IL-62 ), but by 1973 the Convair 990 had likely gone, and the DC8 was their only Douglas jet, so a 707 on the long haul and a 727 within Brazil.
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27. TI 995: Abilene (ABI) 7:03a - 7:40a Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) 8;20a - 9:09a Houston Intercontinental (IAH) 9:35a - 11:30a Mexico City (MEX)
Freq: ABI-DFW-IAH daily, Thursdays, Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays only IAH-MEX
Service classes: S ABI-DFW, S/K DFW-IAH, S IAH-MEX
Meal services: Snack in S only DFW-IAH, Snack IAH-MEX
Equip: DC9
Connecting to....
MX 305: Mexico City (MEX) 12:30p - 1:55p Merida (MID) 2:25p - 5:15p Kingston (KIN)
Freq: Mondays and Fridays only
Service class: Y
Meal services: Snack MEX-MID, Lunch MID-KIN
Equip: 727
28. JM 015: Kingston (KIN) 10:00a - 10:25a Montego Bay (MBJ)
Freq: Daily
Service classes: F/Y
Meal service: None
Equip: D9S
Connecting to...
DL 955: Montego Bay (MBJ) 11:50a - 1:30p New Orleans (MSY) 2:45p - 3:57p Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) 4:40p - 5:18p Las Vegas (LAS)
Freq: Sundays only
Service classes: F/Y
Meal services: Lunch MBJ-MSY, Dinner DFW-LAS
Equip: D8S
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Take a guess at Varig. Bit of a long way round, but Mexico to Rio (oceanside), stopping at say Bogota and Brasilia, then on a domestic run back northwards to, say, Fortaleza and Belem.
Varig had a couple of everything for long-haul aircraft (surprising they didn't get the IL-62 ), but by 1973 the Convair 990 had likely gone, and the DC8 was their only Douglas jet, so a 707 on the long haul and a 727 within Brazil.
Varig had a couple of everything for long-haul aircraft (surprising they didn't get the IL-62 ), but by 1973 the Convair 990 had likely gone, and the DC8 was their only Douglas jet, so a 707 on the long haul and a 727 within Brazil.
There is a good news here, though (unlike the outcome of the Saints vs. Vikings football game which took place yesterday at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium in the London area) as the 707 and 727 were indeed operated on these respective flights.
And we can also safely say the routing from Mexico City to Belem was a bit more direct.
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Several things to please keep in mind when providing answers:
* We are looking for genuine guesses here, not answers provided by looking up information in the OAG or respective airline system timetables.
* Please limit your guesses to two (2) quiz items per day so all may participate.
* Please also limit your response to three (3) guesses per day per quiz item. This will avoid a "shotgun" approach and I believe will also encourage others to participate. So, for example, if you cannot correctly guess the answer to a specific quiz item following three attempts in any given day, you can then try again the next day.
* Please provide a complete and specific answer for each quiz item.
24. In 1972, this airline based in Latin America had a name for one of the specific aircraft types in their fleet. They called it the "MAGNO JET" with this equipment being operated on several international routes. Name the air carrier and the aircraft type.
25. It's 1973 and you've just concluded a business assignment in Mexico City. Now it's time for yet another adventure....and that means flying to Belem in Brazil where you'll board a river steamer for a cruise up the Amazon River. You discover that one airline can get you there although a connection with a connecting interval just under four hours will be required. But that's no problem as it will enable you to have dinner overlooking the ocean with an old friend who lives near the airport where you will make your connection. Your first flight will make two stops en route and your second flight will make one stop en route. Different aircraft types built by the same manufacturer will be operated on each flight. Identify the air carrier, the two stops made by the first flight, the connecting airport, the stop made by the second flight and the different aircraft types. ANSWERED
31. It's 1976. You're in St. Maarten in the Caribbean and are heading for Tucson. You are going to require a fairly lengthy connection as you need to attend an afternoon meeting for several hours in this city's downtown area before departing to TUS. But no problem. Two airlines will be involved with your itinerary. Your first flight will make two stops en route and your second flight will make four stops en route. Different aircraft types built by the same manufacturer will be operated on each flight. Identify both air carriers, the two stops made by the first flight, the connecting city, the four stops made by the second flight and the different equipment.
34. Now it's 1985 and you are in Reno. You're off to Seattle for dinner with old friends and have found an interesting way to get there. You'll need to make a connection but will be flying with the same airline with the same aircraft type being operated on both flights. Your first flight will make one stop en route and your second flight will be nonstop with a quick one hour connection between both flights. Identify the air carrier, the stop made by the first flight, the connecting airport and the aircraft. It wasn't AirCal or United, the first flight did not stop at SJC or SMF, the connection was not made at PDX or SFO and the equipment operated on both flights wasn't the 737-200 or 727-100.
35. Yet another lovely sailing adventure has been safely and successfully concluded and now it's time to get back to work. And that means flying to the state capital of Florida, Tallahassee. It's 1986 and your current location is exotic Grand Turk in the Turks & Caicos Islands. Much to your surprise, you discover there is actually a direct flight from Grand Turk to Tallahassee which makes two stops en route. Name the airline you'll be flying with, both stops and the equipment. It wasn't Air Florida and the aircraft wasn't a 737-200
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34. Now it's 1985 and you are in Reno. You're off to Seattle for dinner with old friends and have found an interesting way to get there. You'll need to make a connection but will be flying with the same airline with the same aircraft type being operated on both flights. Your first flight will make one stop en route and your second flight will be nonstop with a quick one hour connection between both flights. Identify the air carrier, the stop made by the first flight, the connecting airport and the aircraft.
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34. It wasn't AirCal, the first flight did not stop in San Jose, the connection was not made in Portland and the aircraft operated on both flights wasn't the 737-200.
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34- not very “interesting”, but how about United, 727-100s connecting at San Francisco/ SFO and the first flight stop being Sacramento/SMF
otherwise I suspect there was a several-hundred-mile backtrack to Southern California or Las Vegas/LAS
otherwise I suspect there was a several-hundred-mile backtrack to Southern California or Las Vegas/LAS
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34. It wasn't United, the first flight did not stop at Sacramento, the connection was not made at San Francisco and the equipment operated on both flights wasn't the 727-100.
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25. An excellent guess, sir! However, the air carrier in question isn't Varig, the first flight did not stop in Bogota or Brasilia, the connection was not made in Rio de Janeiro and the second flight did not stop in Fortaleza.
There is a good news here, though (unlike the outcome of the Saints vs. Vikings football game which took place yesterday at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium in the London area) as the 707 and 727 were indeed operated on these respective flights.
And we can also safely say the routing from Mexico City to Belem was a bit more direct.
There is a good news here, though (unlike the outcome of the Saints vs. Vikings football game which took place yesterday at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium in the London area) as the 707 and 727 were indeed operated on these respective flights.
And we can also safely say the routing from Mexico City to Belem was a bit more direct.
OK. 1973. What about ... Pan Am. They went from Mexico City through Merida, and sometimes through Tampa as well to Miami. That's two stops and ends up oceanside. Then on from Miami through ... really guessing here, Paramaribo, to Belem - and probably onwards from there.
Which of these would be the 707, and which the 727. Bit of a toss-up. Let's say 707 from Mexico, and 727 down to Brazil.
I can't offer any commentary on the sports, it got a couple of oblique mentions on the news radio here some days ago, but I'm afraid I even had to look up whether it was US football or baseball ... it was at the Spurs stadium, recently reconstructed Spurs' Stadium | Tottenham Hotspur . One of my customers did the main frame part of the construction project there, and that's about as close as I can come to this. One of the teams had been playing in Charlotte NC beforehand, don't know which, and Virgin Atlantic sent an A350 there to bring them to London. There's a small mention on BBC news here, but I don't think you can run the video in the US :
NFL London: Minnesota Vikings beat New Orleans Saints 28-25 in thriller - BBC Sport
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"... isn't ... did not ... not made ... did not ...". Yet it's apparently still an excellent guess. I would say awful ".
OK. 1973. What about ... Pan Am. They went from Mexico City through Merida, and sometimes through Tampa as well to Miami. That's two stops and ends up oceanside. Then on from Miami through ... really guessing here, Paramaribo, to Belem - and probably onwards from there.
Which of these would be the 707, and which the 727. Bit of a toss-up. Let's say 707 from Mexico, and 727 down to Brazil.
OK. 1973. What about ... Pan Am. They went from Mexico City through Merida, and sometimes through Tampa as well to Miami. That's two stops and ends up oceanside. Then on from Miami through ... really guessing here, Paramaribo, to Belem - and probably onwards from there.
Which of these would be the 707, and which the 727. Bit of a toss-up. Let's say 707 from Mexico, and 727 down to Brazil.
However, the first flight did not stop in Merida, the connection was not made in Miami and the stop made by the second flight wasn't made in Paramaribo. But the first flight did stop in Tampa and Miami.
Please guess again, sir!
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The first Pan Am flight "stopped" at Miami ... Pan Am actually ran a single flight number that went through Miami, and onwards ? ! OK. It was of course a domestic flight by then, as it would clear customs in Tampa, the requirement being this had to be done at the first point of US arrival. So where would Pan Am want to run on to in the US, with a licence. They surely wouldn't have a single flight number going into the US and out again. And the overall routing is apparently pretty direct, we have to keep pushing in the same direction. And we're going to change to another Pan Am aircraft there.
It has to be San Juan. Bit of a hub for them, too. But San Juan to Belem with just one stop in a 727 ? Presumably arranged for connections at San Juan from New York, Miami, etc. If not Paramaribo lets go for Georgetown, Guyana.
It has to be San Juan. Bit of a hub for them, too. But San Juan to Belem with just one stop in a 727 ? Presumably arranged for connections at San Juan from New York, Miami, etc. If not Paramaribo lets go for Georgetown, Guyana.
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The first Pan Am flight "stopped" at Miami ... Pan Am actually ran a single flight number that went through Miami, and onwards ? ! OK. It was of course a domestic flight by then, as it would clear customs in Tampa, the requirement being this had to be done at the first point of US arrival. So where would Pan Am want to run on to in the US, with a licence. They surely wouldn't have a single flight number going into the US and out again. And the overall routing is apparently pretty direct, we have to keep pushing in the same direction. And we're going to change to another Pan Am aircraft there.
It has to be San Juan. Bit of a hub for them, too. But San Juan to Belem with just one stop in a 727 ? Presumably arranged for connections at San Juan from New York, Miami, etc. If not Paramaribo lets go for Georgetown, Guyana.
It has to be San Juan. Bit of a hub for them, too. But San Juan to Belem with just one stop in a 727 ? Presumably arranged for connections at San Juan from New York, Miami, etc. If not Paramaribo lets go for Georgetown, Guyana.
And you are spot on as the flight to Belem actually originated at New York JFK with the same flight number being used all the way through with this flight terminating in Belem. This service from New York also featured a change of gauge in San Juan.
Thus a bonus question: What aircraft type was used on the originating flight from JFK nonstop to SJU?