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Old Aug 19, 2019, 1:05 pm
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tap-in for Picture #7 (which, as YVR Cockroach pointed out, has "copyright Air New Zealand" at lower left) -- Douglas DC-8
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Old Aug 19, 2019, 8:13 pm
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Originally Posted by strickerj


This one looks like a Swissair Convair 990 to me.
This is inspiration to me but I have a different answer.

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Here's a thought for some quick questions... I am going to present twelve photographs of an airline lounge, cabin or inflight service. See if you can match the photo with the airline and aircraft type.
Picture 10:

Delta Air Lines, Convair 880

The ventilation slots above the windows is a Convair 880/990 clue. The flight attendant in the background and the white plastic molded seats with the red cushions is a hint for me. Delta.

http://www.deltamuseum.org/exhibits/...ms/the-jet-age

The uniform is from 1959-1965
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Old Aug 19, 2019, 9:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Seat 2A
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Seat 2A I hope you aren’t affected by any of the fires.
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Old Aug 20, 2019, 2:02 am
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Per strikerj: This one looks like a Swissair Convair 990 to me.

Per Toshbaf: strikerj's response is inspiration to me but I have a different answer. Delta Air Lines, Convair 880. The ventilation slots above the windows is a Convair 880/990 clue. The flight attendant in the background and the white plastic molded seats with the red cushions is a hint for me. Delta. http://www.deltamuseum.org/exhibits/...ms/the-jet-age. The uniform is from 1959-1965

Nice try, striker, you were very close, but this one goes to toshbaf. And you, Mr. T - how the heck did you know all this stuff? Were you a Convair engineer or a Delta Colonel back in the day? Well, however you arrived at it, good job, Mon! Delta's 880 it is. ^^ If I might add... those people don't look very Swiss to me. No particular reason, just gut instinct...
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Old Aug 20, 2019, 2:07 am
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Originally Posted by jrl767
Tap-in for Picture #7 (which, as YVR Cockroach pointed out, has "copyright Air New Zealand" at lower left) -- Douglas DC-8
Alright Mr. Smarty Pants - what model of DC-8?
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Old Aug 20, 2019, 3:18 am
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Originally Posted by wrp96
Seat 2A I hope you aren’t affected by any of the fires.
Thanks, '96 - the fires are pretty far south of us so thus far no worries. I think we're in pretty good stead up here on the north side of the range... ^
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Old Aug 20, 2019, 5:57 am
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Originally Posted by Seat 2A
Alright Mr. Smarty Pants - what model of DC-8?
I don’t think Air NZ ever operated a Stretch 8, so it has to be the -30 or -50 since those were the only standard-length 8s with the legs to make AKL-HNL-LAX ... I’d guess the -50 with JT3D-3B turbofans

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some research confirms this

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Old Aug 20, 2019, 7:07 am
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Originally Posted by Seat 2A
Thanks, '96 - the fires are pretty far south of us so thus far no worries. I think we're in pretty good stead up here on the north side of the range... ^
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Didn't know if you were getting any smoke but glad you aren't affected.
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Old Aug 20, 2019, 10:24 am
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Re. Picture 7: I don’t think Air NZ ever operated a Stretch 8, so it has to be the -30 or -50 since those were the only standard-length 8s with the legs to make AKL-HNL-LAX ... I’d guess the -50 with JT3D-3B turbofans.
Right on, J ^ Even so, I'd love to have seen an Air New Zealand DC-8-61/63 in the 1970s koru colors. That would've been a pretty airplane
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Old Aug 20, 2019, 8:39 pm
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Originally Posted by Seat 2A

Per strikerj: This one looks like a Swissair Convair 990 to me.

Per Toshbaf: strikerj's response is inspiration to me but I have a different answer. Delta Air Lines, Convair 880. The ventilation slots above the windows is a Convair 880/990 clue. The flight attendant in the background and the white plastic molded seats with the red cushions is a hint for me. Delta. http://www.deltamuseum.org/exhibits/...ms/the-jet-age. The uniform is from 1959-1965

Nice try, striker, you were very close, but this one goes to toshbaf. And you, Mr. T - how the heck did you know all this stuff? Were you a Convair engineer or a Delta Colonel back in the day? Well, however you arrived at it, good job, Mon! Delta's 880 it is. ^^ If I might add... those people don't look very Swiss to me. No particular reason, just gut instinct...
Thought process: Those people didn't look Swiss to me. So Google helped with the rest. I confirmed that the interior was either a 880 or 990. Then I thought about what airlines flew the plane. Next I thought what airline would use a checker divider but couldn't think of any. Then I looked at flight attendants uniforms. That was the key. Then I googled seating on a Delta Convair 880 and saw that they had a lounge with white plastic seats and red cushions.

The thought process was different from airline flights, when I think, think, think, and think more.
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[QUOTE=Seat 2A;31428584]
Originally Posted by Seat 2A
Here's a thought for some quick questions... I am going to present twelve photographs of an airline lounge, cabin or inflight service. See if you can match the photo with the airline and aircraft type.

Picture 15:
TWA Boeing 707

My thought process was this is a 707. Then, like the last answer, I looked at the uniform. It is a pornographic version of the TWA uniform. In reality, it was worn not unbuttoned at the bottom and showing leg. Usually, trousers were worn underneath.
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Originally Posted by Toshbaf
Thought process: Those people didn't look Swiss to me. So Google helped with the rest. I confirmed that the interior was either a 880 or 990. Then I thought about what airlines flew the plane. Next I thought what airline would use a checker divider but couldn't think of any. Then I looked at flight attendants uniforms. That was the key. Then I googled seating on a Delta Convair 880 and saw that they had a lounge with white plastic seats and red cushions.

The thought process was different from airline flights, when I think, think, think, and think more.
Well done - all the red and white had me thinking of Swissair. Funny though since almost all my flying has been on Delta, but I’m a bit too young to remember the Convairs firsthand.
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Originally Posted by Toshbaf
Thought process: Those people didn't look Swiss to me. So Google helped with the rest. I confirmed that the interior was either a 880 or 990. Then I thought about what airlines flew the plane. Next I thought what airline would use a checker divider but couldn't think of any. Then I looked at flight attendants uniforms. That was the key. Then I googled seating on a Delta Convair 880 and saw that they had a lounge with white plastic seats and red cushions. ...
question for the pedantic: when DL acquired Northeast ~1971, had NE already disposed of their (five? six?) 880s? or did those jets come over to DL in the merger?
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Old Aug 21, 2019, 2:02 pm
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Originally Posted by Toshbaf
Picture 15: My thought process was this is a 707. Then, like the last answer, I looked at the uniform. It is a pornographic version of the TWA uniform. In reality, it was worn not unbuttoned at the bottom and showing leg. Usually, trousers were worn underneath. TWA Boeing 707
Correct. I was fortunate to fly aboard a lounge equipped 707-131 between Denver and New York JFK in April of 1972. Back then, economy class passengers benefited from Ambassador Service on the Denver to east coast flights. The service featured beautiful printed menus featuring a choice of three entree choices and the lounge was quite popular. Of course back then, on board entertainment was limited to music piped through plastic pneumatic headphones, so a little mingling in the lounge was occasionally a highlight of the flight. Air travel was a lot more civilized back then.

As to the "pornographic" uniform, I suppose I would grant you that the airlines played the sex appeal card quite strongly during the 1970s, but I don't think I would consider the hot pants popular with airlines like PSA, Air Florida, Southwest et al. pornographic so much as alluring, and then certainly no more so than a woman wearing a bikini which by the 1970s was considered quite socially acceptable. One thing's for sure - I definitely wouldn't want to see any of the plus sized / aged flight attendants today wearing anything other than the buttoned up uniforms currently in vogue.
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Old Aug 21, 2019, 2:32 pm
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Originally Posted by jrl767
question for the pedantic: when DL acquired Northeast ~1971, had NE already disposed of their (five? six?) 880s? or did those jets come over to DL in the merger?
Color me "pedantic".....

I am reasonably sure the Convair 880 aircraft were gone from the Northeast fleet when the merger was consummated with Delta in 1972. DL did acquire NE B727-95 and B727-295 aircraft which were new to the Delta fleet at time and I think NE DC-9-31 aircraft were acquired as well as part of the merger. I remember seeing a B727-100 in Northeast colors with Delta titles at IAH in the early 70's. And DL also briefly operated NE Fairchild Hiller FH-227 turboprops following the merger.

https://www.airliners.net/photo/Delt...%2By%2BZoYRIFH
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