What a Nutter !
Sep 15, 2011 | 11:38 pm
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The doors do swing outwards, but only after swinging slightly inwards first.
Sep 16, 2011 | 3:14 am
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That said, the Mail is famous for such scaremongering, and rarely lets details stand in the way of a good story!
Sep 16, 2011 | 6:58 pm
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The force required would be in the neighborhood of 20,000 pounds. I don't see how you could get 20 people with hands on the door and footing sufficient to push that hard. And that's just the air pressure differential, not accounting for safety interlocks.
Sep 16, 2011 | 7:01 pm
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Sep 16, 2011 | 9:00 pm
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I think that's where the confusion lies.. basically most passengers see the final result, but often do not observe when the door is first opened..
Sep 16, 2011 | 10:10 pm
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Quite. This was a flight back from a holiday destination, lots of families with little kids - a crazy bloke shouting and trying to open the door must have been pretty terrifying, especially considering the coverage a certain event's anniversary has been getting on tv lately. Heck, I know you can't open a door in flight, but I think I'd have been nervous too.
That said, the Mail is famous for such scaremongering, and rarely lets details stand in the way of a good story!
That said, the Mail is famous for such scaremongering, and rarely lets details stand in the way of a good story!
Sep 17, 2011 | 12:03 pm
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So I'd quite happily get up and say "stop being such an idiot, you're worrying other passengers [who don't know the above]". No danger of being sucked out.
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Sep 17, 2011 | 5:16 pm
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Sep 17, 2011 | 5:30 pm
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Hang on a minute! Has the FT community really just concluded that opening a door, or trying to, in mid-flight is safe?
Yes, the doors do open inwards to break the seal, but the big door handle does just that, and that's why it's so big - to give the leverage to break the seal. Pulling it will depressurise the cabin pretty quickly. Once the door moves inwards away from the seal it swings so that the door twists out of the doorway. Watch the way it moves sometime.
Yes, the doors do open inwards to break the seal, but the big door handle does just that, and that's why it's so big - to give the leverage to break the seal. Pulling it will depressurise the cabin pretty quickly. Once the door moves inwards away from the seal it swings so that the door twists out of the doorway. Watch the way it moves sometime.
Sep 17, 2011 | 6:14 pm
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Hang on a minute! Has the FT community really just concluded that opening a door, or trying to, in mid-flight is safe?
Yes, the doors do open inwards to break the seal, but the big door handle does just that, and that's why it's so big - to give the leverage to break the seal. Pulling it will depressurise the cabin pretty quickly. Once the door moves inwards away from the seal it swings so that the door twists out of the doorway. Watch the way it moves sometime.
Yes, the doors do open inwards to break the seal, but the big door handle does just that, and that's why it's so big - to give the leverage to break the seal. Pulling it will depressurise the cabin pretty quickly. Once the door moves inwards away from the seal it swings so that the door twists out of the doorway. Watch the way it moves sometime.
Sep 17, 2011 | 7:54 pm
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I would assume that there is a safety mechanism to prevent the door flying open midflight..?
Sep 17, 2011 | 10:15 pm
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I don't think anyone has come to that conclusion?!
The door can not be opened nor a seal broken once the cabin is pressurized, and the size of the door handle has nothing to do with it.
Sep 17, 2011 | 10:24 pm
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People, I really don't see the confusion here. The door acts as a plug in the airframe when the cabin is pressurized, and because it has to move inwards first it is impossible for someone to open the door.
No. No door simply swings out. They all swing inwards first then out.
No. No door simply swings out. They all swing inwards first then out.
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