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paxx Sep 15, 2011 10:16 am

What a Nutter !
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...simulator.html

Redhead Sep 15, 2011 10:33 am

I wonder what he was on (or if he has not taken certain recommended meds)

CMK10 Sep 15, 2011 3:52 pm

The Mayor of Philadelphia denies all ties with this crazy man! :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Nutter

ByrdluvsAWACO Sep 15, 2011 3:55 pm


'He was off his head. Then this other guy came from nowhere and smacked him in the head.'
If this had been a US flight, he probably would have received more than a smack. Morons like this needs a good a__ whipping. Then let the law take care of them.

EntropyM Sep 15, 2011 5:18 pm

He accidently put his foil hat in a checked bag. Or that's what I heard.

Ancien Maestro Sep 15, 2011 8:10 pm

Is it possible to open the door inflight?..

I would think that there are safety mechanisms preventing this possibility..

ByrdluvsAWACO Sep 15, 2011 8:57 pm


Originally Posted by Ancien Maestro (Post 17117625)
Is it possible to open the door inflight?..

I would think that there are safety mechanisms preventing this possibility..

No. The laws of physics prevent it. There is too much force being put on the door when the cabin is pressurized.

Ancien Maestro Sep 15, 2011 9:12 pm


Originally Posted by ByrdluvsAWACO (Post 17117815)
No. The laws of physics prevent it. There is too much force being put on the door when the cabin is pressurized.

I figured the law of physics may prevent it, but wasn't sure..

But, say if 20 people pushed on it.. I would think there would be a safety mechanism there to protect the door from being open while inflight..

nerd Sep 15, 2011 9:23 pm


Originally Posted by Ancien Maestro (Post 17117878)
I figured the law of physics may prevent it, but wasn't sure..

But, say if 20 people pushed on it.. I would think there would be a safety mechanism there to protect the door from being open while inflight..

But don't doors open inward? Pushing on it just closes it, right?

Ancien Maestro Sep 15, 2011 10:12 pm


Originally Posted by nerd (Post 17117926)
But don't doors open inward? Pushing on it just closes it, right?

I thought the doors push outward..

If the doors opened inward, then I guess a rope could be tied to the door, and a hundred passengers could tug on it.. but wouldn't there be a safety mechanism preventing the door from opening?

mpp Sep 15, 2011 10:20 pm


Originally Posted by Ancien Maestro (Post 17118081)
I thought the doors push outward..

Commercial airplane doors are usually plug doors that open inward (although some are then rotated and pushed outward to get them out of the way). In this way they cannot be opened in flight (except for a certain cargo door on the old DC-10 which caused some problems way back when).

ricski64 Sep 15, 2011 10:21 pm

I'm pretty sure every plane I've been on the doors opened outward

Ancien Maestro Sep 15, 2011 10:27 pm


Originally Posted by mpp (Post 17118115)
Commercial airplane doors are usually plug doors that open inward (although some are then rotated and pushed outward to get them out of the way). In this way they cannot be opened in flight (except for a certain cargo door on the old DC-10 which caused some problems way back when).

A red herring article then, with the fear that airplane doors can be opened inflight..

The family is scared out of their wits, when there was no possibility of the doors opening inflight..:rolleyes:


Originally Posted by ricski64 (Post 17118119)
I'm pretty sure every plane I've been on the doors opened outward

We deplaned in Hawaii walking outside and LAX.. I could have sworn that the doors swung outwards..

I don't recall the exterior of the plane seen inwards.. that would actually seem inappropriate..

tonywestsider Sep 15, 2011 10:51 pm


Originally Posted by mpp (Post 17118115)
Commercial airplane doors are usually plug doors that open inward (although some are then rotated and pushed outward to get them out of the way). In this way they cannot be opened in flight (except for a certain cargo door on the old DC-10 which caused some problems way back when).

This is correct for the make and model of the aircraft. According to the photo in the news article, the plane where the incident occurred is a Boeing 757, which has plug type doors that open inward first, then swing outward. All 717s, 737s, 747s (main deck), 757s and Boeing/MD aircraft have these manually operated doors. These doors can't be opened inflight because of cabin pressurization putting force on the doors.

Doors that push outward and slide to the side of the fuselage are on all Airbus aircraft and the Boeing 777 and 787. These doors have additional safety latches which prevent the door from opening inflight. Also, it is next to impossible to push out and slide these doors to the side in the forward direction while the plane is flying at 500 mph.

ByrdluvsAWACO Sep 15, 2011 11:27 pm


Originally Posted by Ancien Maestro (Post 17117878)
But, say if 20 people pushed on it..

I doubt 20 people could all get their hands on the door mechanism to effectively apply enough force, especially in a small galley environment.


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