Originally Posted by mikeef (Post 16777193)

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+3. I will tell you that our kids (2.5 yo twins) spend a lot of time in the lounges in Boston, particularly because AA has a special kids' area (with a door and everything). If there is not a kids' area, the creatures stay in their strollers or hold onto Mom and Dad at all times. Just as nobody wants my kids running around the lounge, I want them within a foot of me at all times so that nothing happens to them.

I'm not saying this to be praised as father of the year. Rather, they need to learn at an early age that in a public place, ANY public place, they need to behave. Still, they're 2.5 years old and can't be expected to be saints at all times. So if they begin to act up, whenever possible, we remove them. Being a parent is often a frustrating, tiring job, but consistency is the name of the game.

Mike

Originally Posted by kwtaper (Post 16762764)

4 or 5 children in First. Ugh. And yes, my spouse and I were in coach.

Originally Posted by newyorkgeorge (Post 16777518)

Very good post from someone that has accepted what it means to be a parent. If you don't want this type of responsibility and/or not change your lifestyle remain childless.

Originally Posted by Trapezeus (Post 16775725)

It was just his observation. and you can't tell me there are times you wouldn't feel like the OP where you see a couple bratty kids driving you crazy and you think, "crap, why am i back here."

I just think the snooty remarks of posters who rarely show any compassion and write the standard "you can get your own private jet or shut up" is way over the top. That tone makes it hard for people to really engage on the boards because pretty much any annoying travel story that has some funny parts to it is off limits because the same group of people come in with the same comments.

All i'm saying is that i understand his frustration, and i think that's all that poster and similar posters want to hear.

Originally Posted by TrojanHorse (Post 16778415)

If I ask why am I back here its b/c I am wondering why my upgrade didn't clear, not why are there five kids in F. To me, it doesn't matter if its five kids, five fat guys, five hot chicks, five non-rev.. the matter of fact is that I'm in Y and someone else (doesn't matter who) is in F.

you get the same comments b/c this is the same topic that gets rehashed over and over. The answers stay the same

on your last paragraph, it sounds like you just want a "YES" man to agree with everything you say; its definitely the wrong place to find that

Originally Posted by kwtaper (Post 16762764)

BWI to PHX yesterday 4 or 5 children in First. Ugh. And yes, my spouse and I were in coach.

Originally Posted by DCGooner (Post 16763288)

Presumably you paid for a coach seat, so why is it your concern who's sitting in F? Is it that you and your wife didn't get a free upgrade? If so, that's life. Someone else paid for those seats with cash or miles, or perhaps someone had higher status than you. Either way, that's really none of your business. All you need to know is that you didn't get upgraded.

Or maybe you have a philosophical problem with kids in F. If that's the case, then (as someone already pointed out) US disagrees with you and your opinion isn't particularly relevant.

A few months ago my family and I flew in F on a DCA-PHX-SNA-PHX-DCA vacation. The dirty looks that my 2 kids got made me smile at these peoples' self-induced misery. If you want to resent what other people do with their money or miles, go for it. But I can assure you we had a great time up in F (and were treated very well by all of the FAs) and we'll continue to travel that way as money and miles permit -- your indignation notwithstanding.

Originally Posted by mikeef (Post 16777193)

... I want them within a foot of me at all times so that nothing happens to them.

Originally Posted by mikeef (Post 16776294)

If you are hearkening back to the pre-deregulation days when...the FAs were primarily waitresses

Originally Posted by LondonElite (Post 16780410)

Whilst I agree with the rest of your post, I'm confused by this. What are they now?

Originally Posted by jamesteroh (Post 16780481)

The PMNW FA's use the excuse they are there for your safety when they want to get out of providing a predeparture drink service:) Not sure how much safety they are providing when the plane is on the ground, cockpit and boarding doors open and they are up in the galley gossiping:confused:

Originally Posted by jamesteroh (Post 16780481)

The PMNW FA's use the excuse they are there for your safety when they want to get out of providing a predeparture drink service:) Not sure how much safety they are providing when the plane is on the ground, cockpit and boarding doors open and they are up in the galley gossiping:confused:

Originally Posted by Ancien Maestro (Post 16780612)

I think FAs human nature is to provide minimal drink service because its difficult to execute.. Heard this on HOU-CUN last week when the FAs mentioned this.. they are are supposed to run up and down the aisles with drinks twice.. but decided only to do it once.. and commented to me about it..

I didn't fuss or think of it.. and don't mind they just run up the alley once..

Originally Posted by jamesteroh (Post 16780646)

With the one drink service in the air, did they at least do a Predeparature? If I was on a PAID FC ticket I would be upset if they only offered me one drink. The good ones on Delta in First will offer you a predeparture drink (and sometimes a refill but I really don't care about the refill) and will usually go through the cabin regularly asking if you want something else.

Originally Posted by TrojanHorse (Post 16778415)

If I ask why am I back here its b/c I am wondering why my upgrade didn't clear, not why are there five kids in F. To me, it doesn't matter if its five kids, five fat guys, five hot chicks, five non-rev.. the matter of fact is that I'm in Y and someone else (doesn't matter who) is in F.