Not sure I understand. You bought Y tix and are upset that somebody else bought F tix and their kids sat in the class of service which they purchased?

You understand perfectly :D

Perhaps airlines could convert some portion of the baggage space for kid storage.

To the OP, please note you are never allowed to be frustrated in the FT forums. From subtle lines of sarcasm to just outright scolding, the good members of this forum will put you in your place.

as for me, i think having a couple kids take 1st class seats kind of sucks and i can imagine it was frustrating for you to have to bypass the opportunity to get it for yourself. i'm sure you're over it and were just sharing the story for the sake of the moment you were in. i liked the post.

Maybe we came from a different era in time. My parents understood the concept of "adult places" as my mother would say. When we were being taken to an "adult place" (such as F class or an airline lounge) we were nicely dressed and understood how we would behave. Unfortunately, today people see having a child as a fashion statement and are not prepared to deal with a totally dependent human being for the next 21 years. Nor are they willing to give up their lifesytle and expect others to put up with their children.

When we were kids, adult places as you call them weren't reserved for sitting in F class. Traveling by plane was a treat and we were nicely dressed when we sat in coach. If one of us misbehaved, we were told that next time, that child would be left at home with grandma. Talk about a simple way to make sure your kids are well-behaved. We wanted to travel so we knew we had to be on our best behavior. We knew our parents meant it. These were not threats to be left behind; they were promises.

On my most recent trip to Germany this past week, the kids on board were fine.

Must be jealousy, pure and simple.

QUOTE=kwtaper;16762764]BWI to PHX yesterday 4 or 5 children in First. Ugh. And yes, my spouse and I were in coach.[/QUOTE]

You should book one of the many flights that come without kids. They are on private jets, and when you pay for them, you get to choose exactly who is on them.

I'm constantly amazed by the number of people who get so agitated at the sight of the child and the thought that there is even a possibility that the critter will be disruptive. Seriously, people need to get over it.

Nope, wouldn't bother me. In fact, had a couple of Intl F flights over the past few weeks with lots of kids (On CX, no less!). Some of the kids even made noise! Those headphones came in awfully handy.

Seriously, get off your high horse. First class and airline lounges are not exclusively "adult places." If they were, the airlines would have rules indicating as such. There was no indication in this thread that the children misbehaved. And the way you stereotype parents today is particularly disgraceful. How you dressed on an airline when you were a child is not relevant today and, for that matter, dress is no indication of how a person will behave.

I'll go back to my first statement: if you don't want kids on your plane, fly private.

Mike

frustrated yes but when you are in the cabin you purchased a ticket for, you have no business caring who rides in the other classes and less business whining about it

oh dear...we have just gone through pages and pages of similar discussion on Australian Frequent Flyer...seems like this is a universal issue!

I was just thinking that OP is jealous..

and the type of jealousy thinking that they should be upgraded first before children..

No mention of misbehavior.. just the presence of children..

I don't like to be around children. That's half the reason I don't teach anymore.

I don't like to be around idiotic adults. That's the other half of the reason.


*I would suggest the OP try this restaurant about 15 miles east of Pittsburgh.

Leave your toddlers at home the next time you head to McDain's Restaurant and Golf Center in Monroeville.

"Beginning July 16, 2011 McDain's Restaurant will no longer admit children under 6 years of age," wrote the restaurant in an email to patrons. "We feel that McDain's is not a place for young children. Their volume can't be controlled and many, many times they have disturbed other customers."

McDain's atmosphere is intentionally adult, said owner Mike Vuick. The restaurant, which includes a bar, is connected to a driving range and has never offered a children's menu.

Read more at http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11193/1159804-56.stm

Why doesn't this restaurant just turn entirely into a lounge allowing only drinking age adults in.. I don't think its' going to entirely solve the problem of children making noise as kids ages 6 to 18 are going to be in the restaurant..

Unlike Rupert Murdoch, I don't make the news, I only report it.

You should book one of the many flights that come without kids. They are on private jets, and when you pay for them, you get to choose exactly who is on them.



I'm constantly amazed by the number of people who get so agitated at the sight of the child and the thought that there is even a possibility that the critter will be disruptive. Seriously, people need to get over it.



Nope, wouldn't bother me. In fact, had a couple of Intl F flights over the past few weeks with lots of kids (On CX, no less!). Some of the kids even made noise! Those headphones came in awfully handy.



Seriously, get off your high horse. First class and airline lounges are not exclusively "adult places." If they were, the airlines would have rules indicating as such. There was no indication in this thread that the children misbehaved. And the way you stereotype parents today is particularly disgraceful. How you dressed on an airline when you were a child is not relevant today and, for that matter, dress is no indication of how a person will behave.

I'll go back to my first statement: if you don't want kids on your plane, fly private.

Mike[/QUOTE]

No, adult places are places that are designed primarily for adults. Like Disney is designed primarily for children. Sadly and yes, the number of children acting inappropriately in public seem to outweight the ones that don't. And I came from a family of two working professionals so the Mom needs to work excuse does not fly. I have had countless number of parents tell me this also.

Maybe its because you are one of those people that believe your children should go anywhere and behave in any manner and it should also be accepted by everyone around you.