I don't see why this is a problem, I assume the kids in F were on paid F tickets, or upgraded for $/points. So they paid for the seats, if the OP paid for coach, whats the problem? Some familys have more money then others, and pay for premium tickets, dont like it? tough!

Restrictions on Pets in First???
 

I might be flying with 2 cats in Sept and was told there was a restriction of two pets in the first class cabin? Weird they don't have a restriction on kids in F but they do pets????

I was inquiring about flying with a pet. I was told that I couldn't sit in an exit row with a pet (which I totally understand). When I asked the platnium line rep if I was still eligible for an upgrade she said I was but there was a limit of 2 pets in first. Since both cats will be in the same carrier she wasn't sure if another passenger could also have a pet or not. She also wasn't sure of why there was a limit to number of pets in first.

There are some cases where they aren't paying.

In the case of a lapheld infant. I have seen UM's be moved to first. Also a non-rev could be flying with their kids, in which case a premium ticket wasn't paid for.

Since the OP didn't mention the children misbehaving, I am not sure what the issue is. As long as the kids behave, I don't have a problem with it. What I do have a problem with is when kids are running around the cabin or I am in the skyclub trying to get work done in a quiet zone and people bring their kdis in that area making noise. I was in a skyclub recently in the quiet area and dad has his two kids with him and decides to go in the quiet area and let the kids go in the fireplace area with the TV. I got a drink and when I was returning to my seat heard the kids talking non stop in front of the tv and the girl was complaining she wanted to watch TV. And then she kept coming over crying to her dad she wanted fruit punch and they didn't have any.

I have the same problem with adults that have too much booze in the skyclub and the adults that talk loudly on their cellphones in the quiet area.

Fair enough...I was making more of a general observation. A lot of threads about kids end up bringing out this opinion that kids should never be on planes to begin with. (The whole private jet bit is a red herring.) I don't even understand how otherwise logical, rational people who live in a Western democracy arrive at that opinion.

And the whole "send 'em to the back of the bus" opinion is...I don't know...a little bit disturbing.

I agree with the private jet bit. I am a non smoker and hate being around smoke, but have heard smokers use that same argument-if you don't like smoking in a place then don't go there.

A lot depends on the kid and their behavior. I have been around some kids that have behaved great on planes and I have been around others who have behaved awful. And a lot of times it's the parents to blame for allowing their kids to behave that way.

I agree. The problem isn't the presence of children per se in any class of service, but of any passenger that creates a nuisance and imposition on other passengers. I do not agree with the poster who thinks that there is a special exemption for the particular kind nuisance and imposition created by noisy or ill-behaved children and that anyone who objects should charter a private jet. Anyone who creates a nuisance and imposition, whether it is the drunk passenger, the loud-talking passenger, or the passenger who has brought on board a screaming child, is rude, selfish and inconsiderate, and the fact that airlines may not have specific rules addressing the entire range of nuisances and impositions does not, in any way, render such passenger's conduct any less rude, selfish and inconsiderate.

Seems to me kids should all be in first- coach has less space, less food and less booze - so its only reasonable to have fewer children as well :P

Seriously? Was the OP actually serious? Perhaps he should buy a nice comfy box and send himself as cargo

^ I agree with EVERYTHING in this response. And while I hate the kids that come in the skyclub and run around and are loud while the parents do nothing, I also hate the adults who have had too much booze and are loud, or who talk on their cell phones in a quiet zone, or who talk so loud on their cell phone that you can hear them clearer than the person you are talking to on your phone.

Amen Brother...

OP jealous is a natural reaction is my take.. but what is there to be jealous about? If you paid for coach, and you got coach.. seems to be a fair business transaction..

If you paid for First and got coach.. well there is an issue..

I agree with PTravel that the nuisance part imposing on others that should be focus.. but when its a certain profile of passenger, race, creed, color, age.. if the passenger paid for the seat, or are upgraded to that seat via airline aurthorization whether complimentary, or by points/status, etc.. following airlines T&C.. then the passenger is entitled to the seat no matter the background..

My assumption was that if the OP paid for coach, with no status, then he has no right to complain, he bought a ticket and got exactly what he paid for. If the children were on paid F, then still no problem. If they were non-rev then they are there for a reason, per the rules of the airline, so again, no reason for the OP to complain. However if they were non rev and the OP did have status, and the non revs got F over him, ok maybe.....

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+3. I will tell you that our kids (2.5 yo twins) spend a lot of time in the lounges in Boston, particularly because AA has a special kids' area (with a door and everything). If there is not a kids' area, the creatures stay in their strollers or hold onto Mom and Dad at all times. Just as nobody wants my kids running around the lounge, I want them within a foot of me at all times so that nothing happens to them.

I'm not saying this to be praised as father of the year. Rather, they need to learn at an early age that in a public place, ANY public place, they need to behave. Still, they're 2.5 years old and can't be expected to be saints at all times. So if they begin to act up, whenever possible, we remove them. Being a parent is often a frustrating, tiring job, but consistency is the name of the game.

Mike

Agreed. There should be no need to tolerate bad behavior from anybody. My point was that if you want to ensure that you have no kids (or drunkards, or women, or sheep...) on your flight, you have to control the jet. It was not that you must be happy about bad behavior from a person of any age group.

Mike

Can't conclude if OP had status, and if the children were subordinate..

Seems like OP dissappeared.. perhaps we can get an explanation why OP feels the way OP does..

And if a parent controls their kids, I don't have an issue with it. My complaint is when dad allows the kids to to run around the SC or complain loudly in front of the TV that people are trying to watch that they don't like the news (all the skyclubs always have CNN progaming on) while dad is in the quiet zone working. Or when I am in the quiet zone and the kids come back every 5 minutes to complain or ask about something.

I also realize kids will make a little bit of noise sometimes, just like people that have had too much free booze will, so people have to have a little bit of a tolerance as well.