New DOT Rules
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Seriously?? With no way to verify what you had in the luggage you want there to be no liability limits.
What all big government people fail to understand is that NOTHING comes free. Impose a boat load of unreasonable rules that cost money - those costs gets passed along to the consumer.
What all big government people fail to understand is that NOTHING comes free. Impose a boat load of unreasonable rules that cost money - those costs gets passed along to the consumer.
Note I did not say it should not be free. I said they had to accept responsibility. They could easily drop the limit for compensation to a say $500 and accept liability for everything. If you are traveling with crap worth more than it is your responsibility to either have trip insurance for your crap or "self" insure it. As I say it is no different than shipping with UPS or the USPS.
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Seriously?? With no way to verify what you had in the luggage you want there to be no liability limits.
What all big government people fail to understand is that NOTHING comes free. Impose a boat load of unreasonable rules that cost money - those costs gets passed along to the consumer.
What all big government people fail to understand is that NOTHING comes free. Impose a boat load of unreasonable rules that cost money - those costs gets passed along to the consumer.
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This is an excellent point. The optimal approach is similar to Fedex in my mind: if the value of your items exceed the liability coverage the carrier provides then you should be able to purchase insurance to cover the remainder of the difference between your estimated value and the liability coverage provided by the airline - if you so desire. This way the cost of the absurd claims of value are not borne by all travelers.
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Transferring the liability to a third party does nothing to incentivize DL management to improve their baggage handling practices.
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Thanks, that is what I was trying but failed to say. So if they had to be response for all items up to a certain value then perhaps we would not see as many thefts as well as fewer damaged bags. But on the other hand there should be a reasonable limit.
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So you are willing to place all responsibility on the airline (not just DL) even though they do not and can not control who has access to the bag through the entire process of transporting the bag (TSA for example)
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Only one thing....unless really look for it on DL.com - all indications are that the flight is truly direct. I did ICN->PDX last week. That's what the Itinerary said. 1 flight number, no indications there was a stop. Had no clue until about 1 week before there was a stop in NRT. At least it was the same aircraft type (no seat issues) but due to a delay in the ICN->NRT part - I almost missed NRT->PDX. If I had known it wasn't a true non-stop - I might have booked differently
Probably doesn't warrant a DOT complaint, but irritating nonetheless.
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An area that needs to be addressed is code shares. The rules/fees for a code share should not be allowed to be different then on the ticketing carrier, i.e., if DL doesn't charge me a baggage fee then the code share partner should not be able to if I buy the ticket from DL. If delta charges a fee, the code share should not be higher. If my status lets me choose seats, stand by for earlier flights, earn qualifying miles, etc., I should have the same rights on the code share if I buy the ticket from DL.
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Don't put valuables in your bag, if you do assume it will be stolen and you will never be able to prove who stole it. What is covered and not covered is clearly spelled out before you fly.
Use a lock on your bag.....
etc,etc, etc.
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An area that needs to be addressed is code shares. The rules/fees for a code share should not be allowed to be different then on the ticketing carrier, i.e., if DL doesn't charge me a baggage fee then the code share partner should not be able to if I buy the ticket from DL. If delta charges a fee, the code share should not be higher. If my status lets me choose seats, stand by for earlier flights, earn qualifying miles, etc., I should have the same rights on the code share if I buy the ticket from DL.
Consumers are blind sided by fees that are not disclosed at time of booking when a code share is involved. Because of the nature of codeshares there is a complex and difficult to understand sequence of who's fees apply. Often the first carrier for the days travel apply.
It is not usual for a consumer to pay no fees on the leg out of the US including a connection with a foreign code share partner. However, on the return leg the foreign carrier's fees would apply and be collected.
At time of sale a code share doesn't disclose a different set of fees apply. Although airlines have become quite sophisticated advising the customers on the day of travel. Often they are able to alert the customer of who and where to check-in with. That same technology should be applied to disclosing fees.
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What does a proposed prohibition on "post-purchase price increases" mean?
Surely this doesn't mean that airlines wouldn't be able to charge more for a flight as it gets closer to the date of travel?
Update: Nevermind. I see what it is: http://www.consumertraveler.com/toda...-buy-a-ticket/
Surely this doesn't mean that airlines wouldn't be able to charge more for a flight as it gets closer to the date of travel?
Update: Nevermind. I see what it is: http://www.consumertraveler.com/toda...-buy-a-ticket/
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Given the way the system is set up now.....in a word yes.
Don't put valuables in your bag, if you do assume it will be stolen and you will never be able to prove who stole it. What is covered and not covered is clearly spelled out before you fly.
Use a lock on your bag.....
etc,etc, etc.
Don't put valuables in your bag, if you do assume it will be stolen and you will never be able to prove who stole it. What is covered and not covered is clearly spelled out before you fly.
Use a lock on your bag.....
etc,etc, etc.
If you are paying the airline to transport a bag, your contract is with the airline and only with the airline. If the airline allows TSA unsupervised access to your baggage, that should be the airline's liability, and the airline can take it up with TSA.
As soon as the airlines have no easy way to pass the buck & shrug off their liability, they'll clean up their act.


