Leverage - playing the airline's game
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Leverage - playing the airline's game
On the most recent episode of TNT’s Leverage, the show evolved around a con called the “fiddle game”. This con game plays to the victim’s sense of greed by creating the illusion that an object, the “fiddle” – likely worthless in its own right -- has exceptional value, and that the designated victim will be willing to pay dearly to have it. This con reminded me of the pursuit of airline status, where the reward itself (status) has no real value, but it elicits enormous efforts from people who will go to great lengths to get it. As testament to this, read the plight of Global Service hopefuls down below.
The things we’ll do, and the lengths we’ll go to, to be rewarded with the opportunity to walk into the aluminum tube (soon to be composite if Boeing can get their act together on the 787) a few minutes earlier than others, and perhaps (if you are one of the lucky chosen few) move up a class in service. How clever of the airlines to have created such a program. It seems to me, though, that to keep this fiddle game fresh two opposing forces need to be fueled: new “more valuable” status needs to be accompanied by the perception of declining value of current status.
As the overseeing exec I'd want the worth of current status and mileage accumulations to decline each year in non-uniform increments – not enough to force people out, but enough to give flyers a sense that the water is running out of the tub. With some years worse than others, it will keep everyone on edge wondering. In any event, tomorrow can only be as good as today, NEVER better, and usually worse. The P1 that I coveted years ago is about worthless given the glut of 1K and GS folk flying, and the new policy of automatic upgrades: you guessed it: “ofer” on a consistent basis. That’s what I call smart. Last year with 500 mile upgrades I was in F on most flights.
At some point the two-for-one EQM promotion needs to be augmented with a three-for-one (and ultimately an n-for-one promotion for you MIT types). At its optimum think something like a Feb. 29th 10-for-one EQM. 1K for DEN-DXB. Once every four years. Mr. Enberg would say, “oh my”!
In the spirit of “to the victors go the spoils” there need to be a little more differentiation at the highest levels. Those who fall on the UAL-friendly side of the Pareto principle could stand a little more differentiation. There’s nothing like seeing your buddy at a slightly higher status level to have you begging to pay for full-fare F. And nothing would be better than slightly degrading titles for those who really didn’t make the level, but for the special promotion. Maybe an “Almost Whatever” status.
Lifetime mileage will have to come into play at some point, if for no other reason but to exclude the commoners from attaining the status of veterans, with logarithmic spacing: 100k, 1M, 10M, 100M, 1B. I’m working on P1 – 1M, and this trumps all you P1 – 100ks. And I like the idea of posthumous value, and passing your status down to your children – for a small, one time fee of course. I have others, but none better than the next.
It’s almost time for the level that’s so coveted, it doesn’t have a name. For you old dogs and doggettes, it’s the White Album of airline status for those selected few (and I mean count them on both hands few) who are whispered about on blogs. There needs to be a way to attain this almighty-like status with one truly unbelievable benefit: bypassing all security. Yes, your own special doorway into the airport and onto the plane.
Now that I think about it, I used to park outside the concourse at the old Stapleton Airport in Denver, walk up the stairs, and go directly onto the plane. And this, my frequent flyers, is how the fiddle game is played.
Happy status flying.
The things we’ll do, and the lengths we’ll go to, to be rewarded with the opportunity to walk into the aluminum tube (soon to be composite if Boeing can get their act together on the 787) a few minutes earlier than others, and perhaps (if you are one of the lucky chosen few) move up a class in service. How clever of the airlines to have created such a program. It seems to me, though, that to keep this fiddle game fresh two opposing forces need to be fueled: new “more valuable” status needs to be accompanied by the perception of declining value of current status.
As the overseeing exec I'd want the worth of current status and mileage accumulations to decline each year in non-uniform increments – not enough to force people out, but enough to give flyers a sense that the water is running out of the tub. With some years worse than others, it will keep everyone on edge wondering. In any event, tomorrow can only be as good as today, NEVER better, and usually worse. The P1 that I coveted years ago is about worthless given the glut of 1K and GS folk flying, and the new policy of automatic upgrades: you guessed it: “ofer” on a consistent basis. That’s what I call smart. Last year with 500 mile upgrades I was in F on most flights.
At some point the two-for-one EQM promotion needs to be augmented with a three-for-one (and ultimately an n-for-one promotion for you MIT types). At its optimum think something like a Feb. 29th 10-for-one EQM. 1K for DEN-DXB. Once every four years. Mr. Enberg would say, “oh my”!
In the spirit of “to the victors go the spoils” there need to be a little more differentiation at the highest levels. Those who fall on the UAL-friendly side of the Pareto principle could stand a little more differentiation. There’s nothing like seeing your buddy at a slightly higher status level to have you begging to pay for full-fare F. And nothing would be better than slightly degrading titles for those who really didn’t make the level, but for the special promotion. Maybe an “Almost Whatever” status.
Lifetime mileage will have to come into play at some point, if for no other reason but to exclude the commoners from attaining the status of veterans, with logarithmic spacing: 100k, 1M, 10M, 100M, 1B. I’m working on P1 – 1M, and this trumps all you P1 – 100ks. And I like the idea of posthumous value, and passing your status down to your children – for a small, one time fee of course. I have others, but none better than the next.
It’s almost time for the level that’s so coveted, it doesn’t have a name. For you old dogs and doggettes, it’s the White Album of airline status for those selected few (and I mean count them on both hands few) who are whispered about on blogs. There needs to be a way to attain this almighty-like status with one truly unbelievable benefit: bypassing all security. Yes, your own special doorway into the airport and onto the plane.
Now that I think about it, I used to park outside the concourse at the old Stapleton Airport in Denver, walk up the stairs, and go directly onto the plane. And this, my frequent flyers, is how the fiddle game is played.
Happy status flying.
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If this is a fiddle, I'm glad to join the band. Status has helped in the event of irregular operations. It's gotten me upgrades from Y to J and from J to F, to the benefit of my and my wife's sleep, enjoyment and work. And it's also gotten me extra miles that have taken us on wonderful vacations I otherwise wouldn't have been able to afford.
Yes, it was clever of airlines to create FF programs, but that does not make it a zero sum game. It's been clever because people want them for very rational reasons that reap big, very tangible rewards.
Yes, it was clever of airlines to create FF programs, but that does not make it a zero sum game. It's been clever because people want them for very rational reasons that reap big, very tangible rewards.
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I disagree that airline status has no tangible value.
My 1K status saves me a ton of money (standby fees, award redeposit fees, phone booking charges, luggage fees, etc.)
More importantly, it saves me a TON of time, which I value far more than money these days.
Not to mention the comfort of sitting up front for the price of economy. That to me is exceptionally valuable.
YMMV.
My 1K status saves me a ton of money (standby fees, award redeposit fees, phone booking charges, luggage fees, etc.)
More importantly, it saves me a TON of time, which I value far more than money these days.
Not to mention the comfort of sitting up front for the price of economy. That to me is exceptionally valuable.
YMMV.
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I agree with a great deal in the OP. Most importantly, FF programs have evolved from minor loyalty programs 20 years ago to marketing schemes that really prey on the psychology of addictive behavior. Anyone playing video games these days can see some striking parallels, much like the "fiddle" in the OP.
I, too, have gotten great benefits from MP and don't consider it a zero sum game. But, I've also done things I would not have imagined even a few years ago...mileage runs, multiple TPACs in a single year, paying considerably higher fares just for a particular fare class.
I think it's quite plausible that the FF programs will continue to become more complicated and differentiate even more than they do now. The possible downside for the airlines is that they have alienated some customers with the complexity of the programs. It takes a great deal of time and a somewhat irrational addiction to keep up with things (or, at least, to game the system to near-maximum). Thank God for FT!
Cheers.
I, too, have gotten great benefits from MP and don't consider it a zero sum game. But, I've also done things I would not have imagined even a few years ago...mileage runs, multiple TPACs in a single year, paying considerably higher fares just for a particular fare class.
I think it's quite plausible that the FF programs will continue to become more complicated and differentiate even more than they do now. The possible downside for the airlines is that they have alienated some customers with the complexity of the programs. It takes a great deal of time and a somewhat irrational addiction to keep up with things (or, at least, to game the system to near-maximum). Thank God for FT!

Cheers.
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I disagree that airline status has no tangible value.
My 1K status saves me a ton of money (standby fees, award redeposit fees, phone booking charges, luggage fees, etc.)
More importantly, it saves me a TON of time, which I value far more than money these days.
Not to mention the comfort of sitting up front for the price of economy. That to me is exceptionally valuable.
YMMV.
My 1K status saves me a ton of money (standby fees, award redeposit fees, phone booking charges, luggage fees, etc.)
More importantly, it saves me a TON of time, which I value far more than money these days.
Not to mention the comfort of sitting up front for the price of economy. That to me is exceptionally valuable.
YMMV.
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I understand the sentiment of the OP however I don't I agree with Modern 49er that there is value.
I used to fly very little and due to a bunch business and vacation travel this year I may end up 1k and am considering a MR to make the last few thousand miles. However that's based on the value of the benefits given for the cost. E.g. if I spend $400 in tickets and get 4 SWUs and 2 CR1s they have tangible value and can be sold on the grey market.
Agreed that status can't be sold to someone else so in that sense it has no value.
There's no question the miles themselves have value however that's independent of status.
Now almost all of the 2P benefits are for sale so one could argue the value is what US sells them for.
Do I agree with UA's valuations of the items? No, however to quote most realtors "You don't know how much [your house of cards] is worth without selling it".
Bottom line, it's about maximizing value for the cost and it's cheaper for the airlines to give miles and status benefits then cheaper tickets. Us flyers find value in those benefits.
I disagree, I think there's a trend towards simplicity in FF programs. Look at JetBlue's program, they've simplified it. Southwest? it's simple. Simplification reduces training costs, service variation, etc. and shows up on the bottom line. I'm not a fan as I'd rather there be more ways to extract value from the system if you're smart enough.
I used to fly very little and due to a bunch business and vacation travel this year I may end up 1k and am considering a MR to make the last few thousand miles. However that's based on the value of the benefits given for the cost. E.g. if I spend $400 in tickets and get 4 SWUs and 2 CR1s they have tangible value and can be sold on the grey market.
Agreed that status can't be sold to someone else so in that sense it has no value.
There's no question the miles themselves have value however that's independent of status.
Now almost all of the 2P benefits are for sale so one could argue the value is what US sells them for.
Do I agree with UA's valuations of the items? No, however to quote most realtors "You don't know how much [your house of cards] is worth without selling it".
Bottom line, it's about maximizing value for the cost and it's cheaper for the airlines to give miles and status benefits then cheaper tickets. Us flyers find value in those benefits.
I think it's quite plausible that the FF programs will continue to become more complicated and differentiate even more than they do now. The possible downside for the airlines is that they have alienated some customers with the complexity of the programs. It takes a great deal of time and a somewhat irrational addiction to keep up with things (or, at least, to game the system to near-maximum).
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Agreed that status can't be sold to someone else so in that sense it has no value.
If you are healthy, but can't sell your vigor to another does that make it valueless.
If you have vested corporate stock options, but they are not transferable does that make them valueless? Depends on the stock lately I guess.
On the other hand just because I can give you the shirt off my back, does that give it value if I just spent 12 hrs on a flight with poor ventilation and I have a prespiration issue?
If you are healthy, but can't sell your vigor to another does that make it valueless.
If you have vested corporate stock options, but they are not transferable does that make them valueless? Depends on the stock lately I guess.
On the other hand just because I can give you the shirt off my back, does that give it value if I just spent 12 hrs on a flight with poor ventilation and I have a prespiration issue?
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I disagree, I think there's a trend towards simplicity in FF programs. Look at JetBlue's program, they've simplified it. Southwest? it's simple. Simplification reduces training costs, service variation, etc. and shows up on the bottom line. I'm not a fan as I'd rather there be more ways to extract value from the system if you're smart enough. 

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I disagree that airline status has no tangible value.
My 1K status saves me a ton of money (standby fees, award redeposit fees, phone booking charges, luggage fees, etc.)
More importantly, it saves me a TON of time, which I value far more than money these days.
Not to mention the comfort of sitting up front for the price of economy. That to me is exceptionally valuable.
YMMV.
My 1K status saves me a ton of money (standby fees, award redeposit fees, phone booking charges, luggage fees, etc.)
More importantly, it saves me a TON of time, which I value far more than money these days.
Not to mention the comfort of sitting up front for the price of economy. That to me is exceptionally valuable.
YMMV.
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Te problem is all those "perks" are a benefit only for more flying. Something of a vicious cycle. You get status by flying more so you can get things while flying more. Add to that the fact that many of those perks are now for sale to anyone. So the question is if instead of being loyal to UA, you had purchased tickets based on price. Would savings on fares offset the savings derived from these perks? For frequent business flyers whose company foots the bill, probably not. But for those independents, or part time leisure flyers, I wonder if the costs actually work out on paper.
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I'm sorry but mileage runs aren't fun? I've got local friends in Munich now thanks to runs. I've been able to go to the annual Leipzig (Germany) gothic festival in F b/c of status & RDM, etc. Hell, I've been to Iceland and saw some of the most beautiful land/seascape ever thanks to a medical diversion during a MR. ^
Sure, all the $ I've spent chasing status would have bought me a killer big screen tv and a whole lot of top-flight scotch, but there's more to life than drinking yourself into oblivion in front of a $5,000 tv.
Sure, all the $ I've spent chasing status would have bought me a killer big screen tv and a whole lot of top-flight scotch, but there's more to life than drinking yourself into oblivion in front of a $5,000 tv.
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e problem is all those "perks" are a benefit only for more flying. Something of a vicious cycle. You get status by flying more so you can get things while flying more. Add to that the fact that many of those perks are now for sale to anyone. So the question is if instead of being loyal to UA, you had purchased tickets based on price. Would savings on fares offset the savings derived from these perks? For frequent business flyers whose company foots the bill, probably not. But for those independents, or part time leisure flyers, I wonder if the costs actually work out on paper.
Of course they wouldn't! But based on the well known fact that 88% of statistics are made up on the spot, I'll have you know that 92.9% of top tier elites are travelling 96.2% of their revenue tickets on the company dime- so they don't care too much (within reason) about the cost of tickets on different airlines- they just wanna sit in J when their company policy will only pay Y!
Sorry to call a spade a spade, but personal gain combating company policy is the major driving factor for the success of ALL FF programmes...
Of course they wouldn't! But based on the well known fact that 88% of statistics are made up on the spot, I'll have you know that 92.9% of top tier elites are travelling 96.2% of their revenue tickets on the company dime- so they don't care too much (within reason) about the cost of tickets on different airlines- they just wanna sit in J when their company policy will only pay Y!
Sorry to call a spade a spade, but personal gain combating company policy is the major driving factor for the success of ALL FF programmes...


