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mmcmah Mar 15, 2017 11:40 am


Originally Posted by xvirginx (Post 28041048)
I gave up with the app. It's info is inconsistent and well, didn't work properly, especially for me who uses LHR quite a bit. . Contacted the app developer who admits they are constantly trying to keep it updated and running smoothly, but can only do so much. They are currently working on improving the app, and also looking at options to improve our flight data and accuracy.

In the meantime, my search continues.

Which app?

xvirginx Mar 15, 2017 2:27 pm


Originally Posted by xvirginx (Post 28041048)
I gave up with the app. It's info is inconsistent and well, didn't work properly, especially for me who uses LHR quite a bit. . Contacted the app developer who admits they are constantly trying to keep it updated and running smoothly, but can only do so much. They are currently working on improving the app, and also looking at options to improve our flight data and accuracy.

In the meantime, my search continues.

Oops, It's FlightTracker+

Bohemian1 Mar 16, 2017 1:57 pm

Agree that this was a great app. First hobbled by TripIt and then it just melted down.

Flightview is my current replacement. Not quite as good, but haven't found anything better.

laserjok Mar 21, 2017 2:04 am


Originally Posted by edcaya (Post 26018465)
I'm currently trialing out App in the Air -- so far, so good, but you really need to pony up in order to get the most from it.

Since end of February I have tried all the flight tracking app I could possibly find on the App Store, and for me in Europe the winner is app in the air. Of course you need the paid version and I'm missing some features from flighttrack like statistics. flight+ also called "flight tracker" would be my second choice but until now it never gave me any gate information nor gate change

Bohemian1 Mar 21, 2017 2:23 pm


Originally Posted by edcaya (Post 26018465)
I'm currently trialing out App in the Air -- so far, so good, but you really need to pony up in order to get the most from it.

I'm looking at it too. I like the integration with Tripit and the ability to mine my email. I can't seem to find a flightboard option like the FT Pro app used to have. It was useful for FAA status at airports and inbound connections if nothing else.

xvirginx Mar 22, 2017 5:41 am

I've found "miFlightBoard" on the App Store - not perfect but gives gate info and very much like the old "flightboard" which existed previously. It's not free but I needed to find something that actually worked.

Flyiboy Mar 22, 2017 6:09 am


Originally Posted by xvirginx (Post 28070499)
I've found "miFlightBoard" on the App Store - not perfect but gives gate info and very much like the old "flightboard" which existed previously. It's not free but I needed to find something that actually worked.

I downloaded the "free" version and its basic. A turn off for me is the RED arrivals and departures columns. Red is meant to be a delayed flight. I think they need to change th color scheme like a time traffic light. I'm on the fence with the paid versions though..

BThumme Mar 22, 2017 9:16 am


Originally Posted by xvirginx (Post 28070499)
I've found "miFlightBoard" on the App Store - not perfect but gives gate info and very much like the old "flightboard" which existed previously. It's not free but I needed to find something that actually worked.

I saw they have a 3.99 version of "mi Flight Tracker Pro" - can anyone comment on this? From one of the pictures, it at least looks like it shows a map of actual flight path

Edit: Bought it, going to give it a try. It looks kinda messy, but it appears to have the information I'm looking for. It's hard to love again after being dumped, but maybe this is the right one. Some really quick thoughts: despite looking very ugly, this has a lot of potential. I did see that under options, I can turnoff codeshares (and change time to 12 hours); it also has the option to display air time or gate to gate time. The app shows tail numbers for flights as well, and actual flight maps. The only thing is, I'm not sure if it has push notifications? I've added a flight to depart in 2.5 hours, will see what happens, but this appears to have some promise.

On the downside, I can only search historically a couple days, and I have to save a flight to view the details.

Double edit: So...there doesn't seem to be any type of push notifications. I used UA 1767 DEN-DCA as my example. The flight ended up pushing back 5 minutes early, and has a gate arrival of about 20 minutes early currently. mFTP didn't have any of that updates as of 9:50 am (5 minutes after scheduled pushback); re-searching for the flight did show the updated information, but I hope I don't have to search every time I need updates.

Triple Edit: Flight did update correctly (on its own) for takeoff, BUT, no push notifications. If the app had push notifications, I would point everyone to the app this second. Looks like it might be "Flight Tracker (formely Flight+) for push notifications, mFTP for all my detailed info."

nestorph Mar 22, 2017 7:20 pm


Originally Posted by Bohemian1 (Post 28046059)
Agree that this was a great app. First hobbled by TripIt and then it just melted down.

Flightview is my current replacement. Not quite as good, but haven't found anything better.

I've been using FlightView for the past month. I travel weekly with a round trip and each trip having two legs--so four flights total. It's not bad but having used FlightTrack for so many years, I know what I'm missing. I passed along some screenshots and suggestions to the FV team and hope they'll incorporate them some day.

My pet peeves:
  • I always liked the widget function that provides summary information quickly. FV shows the flight numbers but no gate or time info in the widget. Also, no calculation of the layover time
  • Similarly, once you bounce to the app itself, you get detailed info about each leg, but no info about the relationship between the two. I appreciated how FT would allow you click through a flight combination, showing you the takeoff and landing times as well as gate info in a seamless stream
  • The are no airport terminal maps
I spent the few bucks on the ad-free version. Still on the hunt...

steveo0 Mar 22, 2017 8:29 pm

TripCase anyone?
 

Originally Posted by mmcmah (Post 28018734)
Yup, I paid for Flight+ (now Flight Tracker). As far as I could tell, the only difference was the ads.

Yes, this is a massive PITA and none of the existing products are nearly as good as FlightTrack Pro was (I never made the move to v5, as the original one was better).

None of the other apps I've tried or read about in this thread seem able to serve as a replacement for FlightTrack for me.

I've been fiddling with the TripCase app this afternoon and so far that seems like it might tide me over until something more akin to FlightTrack shows up. Has anyone had longer experience with it and if so could you share impressions?

Bohemian1 Mar 23, 2017 2:24 pm


Originally Posted by steveo0 (Post 28074321)
I've been fiddling with the TripCase app this afternoon and so far that seems like it might tide me over until something more akin to FlightTrack shows up. Has anyone had longer experience with it and if so could you share impressions?

I'd be curious too, although this looks a lot more like TripIt in some ways, at least to me.

apkohn Mar 26, 2017 1:59 pm

Combo
 
Tripit Pro for updates, delays, etc. Then Flight Stats to see other flight schedules and equipment changes, etc.

I also find that some of the airline apps have the best info...like United's incoming flight search info. When a plane isn't doing a turnaround to the same city, it would be hard to know the incoming flight#.

All in Combo these days. Info overload.

Explorer789 Mar 26, 2017 2:24 pm


Originally Posted by psbaj (Post 26026504)
I'm pretty satisfied with KAYAK Pro . Got it for free at Amazon Appstore on their Free Apps of the day last year..

Just so people are aware, Kayak Pro from Amazon Appstore is out of date, and has not received an update since 2014.

The regular free Kayak app from iOS app store or android play store has all the same functionality and more with the same ad-free experience.

boberonicus Mar 27, 2017 1:17 am

I've found Flight+ (now Flight Tracker) to be pretty good. I've used it to track about 15 segments so far. On Friday, it alerted me to United delays about 10 minutes before the delay appeared on the airport displays.

My biggest beef is that notifications are not reflected back into the actual flight. So if a flight is scheduled to depart at 9pm, but then you get notifications saying "Now 9:30", "Now 9:45" and then you look back at the fight info itself, it still shows 9pm departure time. Maybe that was a one off.

MoonPet Mar 27, 2017 9:31 am


Originally Posted by boberonicus (Post 28091289)
I've found Flight+ (now Flight Tracker) to be pretty good. I've used it to track about 15 segments so far. On Friday, it alerted me to United delays about 10 minutes before the delay appeared on the airport displays.

My biggest beef is that notifications are not reflected back into the actual flight. So if a flight is scheduled to depart at 9pm, but then you get notifications saying "Now 9:30", "Now 9:45" and then you look back at the fight info itself, it still shows 9pm departure time. Maybe that was a one off.

Also lamenting the loss of FlightTrack. Such a wonderful app! Going to try "The Flight Tracker" after all of the recommendations here.

Bohemian1 Mar 27, 2017 10:23 am


Originally Posted by MoonPet (Post 28092650)
Also lamenting the loss of FlightTrack. Such a wonderful app! Going to try "The Flight Tracker" after all of the recommendations here.

I've tried all of the rest, I may as well try this one too.

But looking to download this for my iThing and it's confusing as hell with so many products with similar names. Is this the product made by Smart Mobile Software?

Bohemian1 Mar 27, 2017 10:41 am


Originally Posted by Bohemian1 (Post 28092903)
I've tried all of the rest, I may as well try this one too.

But looking to download this for my iThing and it's confusing as hell with so many products with similar names. Is this the product made by Smart Mobile Software?

Never mind. Went back in this thread and found the particulars.

Xeno Mar 28, 2017 5:30 pm


Originally Posted by ericw (Post 27981509)
I downloaded App in the Air and I like it in general and it has Tripit Integration. However, I hate the $40 a year subscription for real time alerts.

Airline Flight Status Tracking also has Tripit Sync as an add-on. but the GUI feels cluttered.

Darn, I miss my old Flight Track Pro!

I echo all of the above.

I have not found an iOS app that is equal to FlightTrack Pro in terms of features and alerts that go to my Apple Watch.

TripCase did okay during my test but it does not link to TripIt. When I go to Chile later this month, I will do a trial of AppintheAir since it has so many features and see if the lifetime cost of $50 is worth it. I also previously did a trial of TripIt Pro but it feel short of what I wanted.

I have thought that Flight Update may be the closest to FlightTrack Pro in terms of price and iWatch alerts but is the emerging conensus here that the $3.99 Flight Tracker (with TripIt + iWatch) is better than Flight Update?

thesun Mar 28, 2017 10:01 pm


Originally Posted by ericw (Post 27981509)
I downloaded App in the Air and I like it in general and it has Tripit Integration. However, I hate the $40 a year subscription for real time alerts.

The price appears to have changed, it is now $29.99 for 1 year or $49.99 for lifetime. Pretty steep price that I'd pay if I knew the app was going to stay around and improve over time. But after getting burned by buying the old FlightTrack and then FlightTrack5 which was prettier but functionally worse and never really improved, I'm not sure.

Bohemian1 Mar 29, 2017 10:32 am


Originally Posted by thesun (Post 28100143)
The price appears to have changed, it is now $29.99 for 1 year or $49.99 for lifetime. Pretty steep price that I'd pay if I knew the app was going to stay around and improve over time. But after getting burned by buying the old FlightTrack and then FlightTrack5 which was prettier but functionally worse and never really improved, I'm not sure.

I'm with you.

Too bad some of the coders who lurk on FT can't build us a better app. I'm sure we could spec it based on our needs and I for one would be happy to help fund something like that on Kickstarter / Indiegogo.

Explorer789 Mar 29, 2017 10:40 am


Originally Posted by Bohemian1 (Post 28102366)
I'm with you.

Too bad some of the coders who lurk on FT can't build us a better app. I'm sure we could spec it based on our needs and I for one would be happy to help fund something like that on Kickstarter / Indiegogo.

Yeah, no thanks. Programming is never straightforward. You hit technical road blocks, plans fall through, life gets in the way, delays, etc.

If someone wants to build an app, do it on their own time and I will be happy to pay for the finished product at a reasonable price. But I simply refuse crowdfund things like this. More often not, we never a finished product and the person walks away with the money.

Bohemian1 Mar 29, 2017 11:11 am


Originally Posted by Explorer789 (Post 28102405)
But I simply refuse crowdfund things like this. More often not, we never a finished product and the person walks away with the money.

Totally understand.

My score rate as a crowdfunder has been about 80% to completion, 50% on original projected schedule. But definitely better for hardware than pure software for sure.

Having had (and continuing to have) professional gigs on both sides of the H/W S/W equation, it surprises me that the software projects have had bigger issues, but maybe it's the relative experience of the coders involved.

thesun Mar 29, 2017 2:12 pm


Originally Posted by Bohemian1 (Post 28102366)
Too bad some of the coders who lurk on FT can't build us a better app. I'm sure we could spec it based on our needs and I for one would be happy to help fund something like that on Kickstarter / Indiegogo.

The issue that I see would be accessing the data feed which provides real time flight information and the cost. FlightAware does sell this data: https://flightaware.com/commercial/f...cing_class.rvt, not sure how it compares to other data suppliers. But almost certainly it wouldn't be a free product. Some cost based upon actual usage seems most appropriate though I haven't seen any apps that actually have that model. So its not likely to be something that might be done say as an open source project or a gift to the community. There would have be an actual realistic business model.

And besides that, there's quite a bit of work involved in making such a thing work reliably and have all the nice to have features.

It might be more realistic to fund an existing app developer to extend their app and add new features, or convince them of a business model that makes supporting the frequent flier community viable.

Xeno Mar 30, 2017 7:12 pm

I really like this video (of flights that remain for 2017) that was generated by the free version of AppintheAir:

http://www.pctii.org/video/outsound.mov

On another note, I had a Flight Update app fail today as it kept alerting me to flights originally scheduled today which were canceled and removed from both TripIt and the app.

Bohemian1 Mar 31, 2017 10:54 am


Originally Posted by Xeno (Post 28108990)
I really like this video (of flights that remain for 2017) that was generated by the free version of AppintheAir

Yeah, AppintheAir is pretty for sure.

I still find the app missing some bit. Oddly, they don't support Air Canada's loyalty program in their app and have no firm plans soon to do so. While not a deal breaker, it's strange that they wouldn't support the flag carrier for a country but support smaller players.

Xeno Mar 31, 2017 12:56 pm


Originally Posted by Bohemian1 (Post 28111721)
Yeah, AppintheAir is pretty for sure.

I still find the app missing some bit. Oddly, they don't support Air Canada's loyalty program in their app and have no firm plans soon to do so. While not a deal breaker, it's strange that they wouldn't support the flag carrier for a country but support smaller players.

Are your referring to a lack of features or primarily the lack of a major NA carrier?

Bohemian1 Mar 31, 2017 1:13 pm


Originally Posted by Xeno (Post 28112291)
Are your referring to a lack of features or primarily the lack of a major NA carrier?

Both.

As others have noted on the Travel Tools thread, there's some missing / incomplete features. But AC is also missing as a carrier under their loyalty programs.

Burnsie Apr 5, 2017 3:20 pm

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I'm a bit late to the discussion, but it sounds as though the loss of FlightTrack has given many of you an unwelcome headache, as it has done to me. Based on many of the earlier comments in this thread, I've narrowed down the choice of replacement to either The Flight Tracker or FlightView.

At the moment I've downloaded the free versions of both apps and am leaning towards Flight Tracker, based on the user interface. Both apps have a straightforward method of adding new flights and creating trips, so neither has an advantage here. I'll leave feedback on push-notifications etc to those who have been trialling the apps for longer, as at the moment I haven't used these at an airport yet.

The Flight Tracker:
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FlightView also has a reasonable UI, but it's a bit plain in comparison. I'm sure some people would prefer this approach though.

FlightView:
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One significant frustration (that was also the case with FlightTrack) is that I can't add non-commercial or charter flights. I understand that these flights won't appear in search results, but the ability to add these flights manually would be a great help to me. Does anyone know of an app that could help me out with this?

Burnsie Apr 10, 2017 2:16 pm


Originally Posted by Burnsie (Post 28134608)
I'll leave feedback on push-notifications etc to those who have been trialling the apps for longer, as at the moment I haven't used these at an airport yet.

I flew out of LHR today, having left the free versions of both apps installed on my phone. Neither of them provided gate information before it appeared on the airport screens. Even by the time I had boarded the aircraft, neither app had notified me of the gate number.

After arriving at my destination and connecting to a WiFi network, only 'The Flight Tracker' provided a notification of the delayed arrival time; although to be honest I'm not too bothered about post-flight information. I'll leave the apps installed to see how things go on the return journey, but based on my (admittedly limited) experience today, neither is up to the job of replacing FlightTrack.

skydve1 Apr 28, 2017 9:38 am

I wanted to let everyone know that my FlightTrack Pro is still working for keeping track of my flights. Some of the additional functionality (like alternative flights) stopped working, though. The Widgets work fine too.

I'm using FlightTrack Pro in conjunction with Tripit. I'm using an Android phone, and I'm using older versions of both apps:
FlightTrack Pro v 4.5.1
TripIt v 3.10.1

So.. If you've got access to older versions of the apps for Android, you may be in luck. :D

callsignapollo Apr 29, 2017 9:38 am

This is very frustrating - I'm very late to this party!

I paid for FlightTrack Pro on both iOS and on Android (when I switched). I didn't "upgrade" to FlightTrack 5 because the TripIt integration is simply unbeatable for me. Anyone who uses Concur for corporate travel, or has email integration turned on will understand. All I had to do was book a flight and bam, it's on my phone being tracked months in advance.

I signed up for a free 7-day trial of FlightRadar24 Silver, and was disappointed to find that you can only set an alert for a flight a few days in advance (much like Kayak Pro). I also wasn't impressed to find that despite being supported across multiple platforms, if you create an alert on the web it comes in via email vs. push if you create it on a mobile app.

Anyhow - I notice a lot of you are iOS users. Android users who can't live without TripIt - what did you decide on?

EDIT: App in the Air does look nice - but the subscription breakdown isn't very clear. Lifetime subscription is $49.99 in the Android App (US).

vincepoy Apr 29, 2017 3:54 pm


Originally Posted by skydve1 (Post 28241125)
I wanted to let everyone know that my FlightTrack Pro is still working for keeping track of my flights. Some of the additional functionality (like alternative flights) stopped working, though. The Widgets work fine too.

I'm using FlightTrack Pro in conjunction with Tripit. I'm using an Android phone, and I'm using older versions of both apps:
FlightTrack Pro v 4.5.1
TripIt v 3.10.1

So.. If you've got access to older versions of the apps for Android, you may be in luck. :D

Weird that it works for you, my 4.5.2 stopped working at the time of the announcement while 5.x still worked. Both are FlightTrack Pro. I just tried adding my April 26, 2017 AA flight and it said error.

skydve1 Apr 29, 2017 7:53 pm


Originally Posted by vincepoy (Post 28245996)
Weird that it works for you, my 4.5.2 stopped working at the time of the announcement while 5.x still worked. Both are FlightTrack Pro. I just tried adding my April 26, 2017 AA flight and it said error.

I'm adding AA flights via TripIt, and they're showing up fine in FlightTrack Pro. I flew AA 2 weeks ago (6 flights) and all of those flights showed up too.

I extracted my APK's in case you (or anyone else) wants to give it a shot with these versions.

FlightTrackPro v4.5.1
TripIt v3.10.1

NobodyNowhere Apr 30, 2017 4:56 pm

Mobiata Replacement
 
Hello,

I think that I am a latecomer to this topic of conversation, so please forgive the new post.

It was with much disappointment in February that I learned about the Mobiata's discontinuation of FlightTrack and FlightTrack Pro, the latter of which I had.

I thought at the same time that it was not such a big deal as I had been meaning to find a similar app, thinking that they were in abundance.

I was wrong, simply put.

Compared with everything else that I have since seen, FlightTrack was a simple yet very good app that was user friendly and was quite comprehensive in its information.

I would thus like to know what the general consensus is on a suitable replacement for FlightTracker Pro.

(I have tried the free versions of FlightView and Flight Tracker, but even FlightTrack had a better free version.)

Also, why exactly did Mobiata stop supporting FlightTrack? Is there any possibility that they could reactivate the app, preferably sooner than later?

Thanks in advance.

:D

obscure2k Apr 30, 2017 5:43 pm

Welcome to Flyertalk, NobodyNowhere
I am moving your thread to the Travel Tools Forum, where it is likely that a Moderator will merge your query to an existing thread on this topic.
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Xeno Apr 30, 2017 5:45 pm

Replacement for FlightTrack?

vincepoy Apr 30, 2017 6:25 pm


Originally Posted by skydve1 (Post 28246519)
I'm adding AA flights via TripIt, and they're showing up fine in FlightTrack Pro. I flew AA 2 weeks ago (6 flights) and all of those flights showed up too.

I extracted my APK's in case you (or anyone else) wants to give it a shot with these versions.

FlightTrackPro v4.5.1
TripIt v3.10.1

I don't use TripIt but usually enter the flights manually since it's just to track the flight. I'll give it a shot when I get a chance. Thanks!

skydve1 Apr 30, 2017 6:56 pm


Originally Posted by vincepoy (Post 28249729)
I don't use TripIt but usually enter the flights manually since it's just to track the flight. I'll give it a shot when I get a chance. Thanks!

I just like it because I can forward my itinerary to Tripit via email, then it gets automatically imported into my FlightTrack Pro.

mihaid May 1, 2017 12:51 am


Originally Posted by mihaid (Post 27959427)
I have rushed and got the paid version of AppintheAir, two days ago. Not impressed at all.
As many have already said, this app has A LOT of features that just clutter the screen, without being useful.
The alerts system is very cumbersome (at least to me).
One cannot segregate flights into different trips: the app only lists all flights chronologically.
A VERY annoying thing is that the app has a popup message that pushes you to review the app in the app store. This message pops us regularly (every few minutes or so) and it cannot be fully dismissed unless you actually review the app!
This app was probably the LEAST useful thing I have ever bought for $50.
I cannot believe there really is no app (even a paid one!) out there that comes close to FlightTrack!
I wish a bunch of smart kids looked into building such an app (but only after seeking input/advice from potential users, who can say what SHOULD and what SHOULD NOT be in included in an app like this). I guess this would even be a good candidate for crowdfunding? I would gladly contribute and I am sure others would too.

I thought I'd come back after almost two months of trying several other apps to say that, in my humble opinion, the closest that gets to Flight Track Pro is Flight Update Pro. I am sure others would disagree but to me Flight Update Pro worked best. It still lacks a few tweaks here and there but the developer was very quick to responding to suggestions (by email) and has already implemented many of the suggestions in the latest update.

nestorph May 4, 2017 2:09 pm

A pleasant surprise...
 
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I've been a loyal Kayak user for searching for flights and, after getting the flight confirmation from an airline (or hotel). forwarding the info to Kayak which then automatically creates an entry in my calendar. While at airports, I get gate change and delay notifications typically faster from Kayak then even some of the airline apps. Like others here, I miss Flight Track Pro. I purchased and have been using FlightView for the past few months. It's OK and also has the option to receive confirmation notices so that it fills in the itinerary automatically (unlike Flight Track that required you to manually add flights). I found the FV widget annoying in that it only indicated that a flight was scheduled instead of actually displaying the time (Note: I see in one of the posts above that it does show the times. Don't why it doesn't for me). The other day, however, I paid more attention to the Kayak widget and noticed that it showed me the flights as well as the times (see screenshot. It shows the two widgets with FV sitting above the Kayak one)! Furthermore, when I followed the link back to the Kayak app, I was presented with a neat and clean graphic detailing both legs of my trip with the anticipated layover times (see other screenshot). Further investigation showed detailed terminal maps--down to the individual restaurant and shop level, weather info, ticket details, booking info, and even the link back to the email containing the confirmation info.
Long story short--I think I've found my Flight Track replacement! And it's even free! (I curious about Flight Update Pro but it has some stiff competition at this point)


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