Privacy concerns with itinerary management programs
Aug 9, 2013 | 10:26 pm
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Privacy concerns with itinerary management programs
I have been looking into signing up with tripit, tripcase or worldmate, however with the revelations of nearly all US based tech companies sharing their user info with the government, it seems as though I might as well be sending cc copies of all my traveling to the FBI and NSA if I sign up with them.
Is there any reason to believe that there would be some degree of privacy with these services? Would my itineraries be stored on their servers or only forwarded to my device? Are there any non-US based companies supplying this kind of service?
Is there any reason to believe that there would be some degree of privacy with these services? Would my itineraries be stored on their servers or only forwarded to my device? Are there any non-US based companies supplying this kind of service?
Aug 12, 2013 | 9:25 pm
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Yeah, precisely. Do you *really* think the airlines don't have data sharing agreements with the US government? "Give us the data or you can't fly here" is a compelling argument...
Aug 13, 2013 | 7:50 am
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If they're pulling your email anyways, wouldn't they already have the receipts and confirmations of your flights?
Who do you think manages the no-fly list that the airlines are checking your name against?
Sorry but the horse has already left the barn on this one.
Who do you think manages the no-fly list that the airlines are checking your name against?
Sorry but the horse has already left the barn on this one.
Aug 14, 2013 | 11:03 pm
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About 80% of my flying is not on US airlines and does not involve an origin, destination or stopover in the US.
Aug 24, 2013 | 2:37 pm
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Around 500 airlines and 95,000 travel agency locations depend on the Amadeus Data Centre to deliver almost half a billion net bookings every year and run extremely complex airline systems
Hint: David Miranda wasn't flying on a US airline, and his itinerary didn't involve an origin, destination or stopover in the US either.
Aug 30, 2013 | 7:32 pm
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You don't need to worry about an itinerary management program/app handing your information over to the United States government. It's already processed via TSA Secure Flight assuming your flight originates/terminates or transits the CONUS or any of her territories - regardless of airline. TSA-SF also applies to point-to-point flights not meeting the aforementioned criteria when operated by US-based airlines.
Last edited by coastalguy; Aug 30, 2013 at 7:37 pm
Sep 5, 2013 | 11:24 am
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I always laugh at these type of posts. Either the OP has a vastly inflated sense of self-worth, or they're running drugs and/or illegal weapons.
Do you honestly think the US Government cares where you're going? And if so, why do YOU care that they care?
If it's that important to you, fly private.
Do you honestly think the US Government cares where you're going? And if so, why do YOU care that they care?
If it's that important to you, fly private.
Sep 7, 2013 | 10:51 pm
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I always laugh at these type of posts. Either the OP has a vastly inflated sense of self-worth, or they're running drugs and/or illegal weapons.
Do you honestly think the US Government cares where you're going? And if so, why do YOU care that they care?
If it's that important to you, fly private.
Do you honestly think the US Government cares where you're going? And if so, why do YOU care that they care?
If it's that important to you, fly private.
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