Using phone in "flight mode" while in flight
#16
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 116
I will to conserve battery life on my computer. I haven't checked the numbers, but I think the power output of wireless adapters is generally lower than that of cell phones.
#17


Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Detroit; Formerly Dubai
Posts: 3,676
My wifi has a mechanical switch to flip on and off in the front of the computer. I flip it off on the plane.
That said, in flight wifi uses 802.11 and both the US FAA and its European counterpart have determined that the use of wifi in flight doesn't harm the navigation system on the plane.
That said, in flight wifi uses 802.11 and both the US FAA and its European counterpart have determined that the use of wifi in flight doesn't harm the navigation system on the plane.
#18




Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,939
The hard switch for WiFi/Bluetooth is great. You'll drain your battery fast with those services enabled in-flight constantly scanning for networks. Same pain as leaving the cell-phone on. I'm more worried about hurting my own devices (dead battery) than something on the plane.
I'm not sure of any laptops that don't have a hard switch to disable the antenna. I know IBM, Dell, Sony, Toshiba, etc. all have them.
I'm not sure of any laptops that don't have a hard switch to disable the antenna. I know IBM, Dell, Sony, Toshiba, etc. all have them.
#19


Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 201
Not sure, but I read the iPhone is sort of unique in that you cannot can't turn off the radio completely? This was from some article about wifi on a plane, so maybe what I am remembering is wrong and that you can't turn on wifi without the cell being on, too. I have use my old Treo (don't have anymore) on AA in "flight mode" and nobody said anything. I did have AA ask me about a small Creative Zen Nano (just an mp3 player) and they made a bigger deal than I thought they would only because it had an FM radio receiver. This was during the part of a flight where you were allowed to use electronics, too. I guess it depends on the flight.
#20


Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Detroit; Formerly Dubai
Posts: 3,676
I don't own an iPhone and don't proclaim any expertise with them. That said, I read that the recent upgrade to the iPhone firmware increases your ability to shut things off to make your iPhone more travel friendly (e.g. dataroaming, etc). Of course, that doesn't help anyone with jail-breaked iPhone. Hopefully next month there will be some third party apps that let you dig further in an iPhone's innards.
#21




Join Date: May 2006
Location: GA
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I had an issue on ANA when I was using my Sony Ericcson w880i (normal looking phone) in flight mode.
The FA told me I couldn't use it, and it took me some time to explain to her about flight mode. She then asked for my phone and took it in the galley, returning to tell me it was OK to use in flight mode only. Not sure what she did exactly but she obviously attempted a couple phone calls.
The FA told me I couldn't use it, and it took me some time to explain to her about flight mode. She then asked for my phone and took it in the galley, returning to tell me it was OK to use in flight mode only. Not sure what she did exactly but she obviously attempted a couple phone calls.
#23
Join Date: Dec 2004
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#24

Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Orlando, FL, US
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Both AA* and WN* require that anything "with an off switch" be turned off until the aircraft reaches 10,000'. At that point, "approved personal electronics" may be used, "including wireless telephones and laptops with a wireless card, provided they have an aircraft or game mode." (quoting from my last flight on WN)
#26
Join Date: Jul 2007
Programs: AA ExP
Posts: 119
That ATA story reminds me of the time that I was flying on LH circa 2000. I was watching DVD movies on my laptop and the stewardess came over and very angrily told me to turn it off, as it wasn't permitted. I asked her if she was sure and maybe if she could ask the pilot, which she did. But still no go on letting me finish my movie (about an undersea colony being attacked by a shark if I recall). Sometimes technology gets ahead of the rules.
#27
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: TPA
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Posts: 19
On a recent Delta flight, the FA actually said during the door-closed pre-flight briefing that all cell phones, even with airplane modes, must be turned off for the entire flight.
Finding this somewhat curious, I sent an email to Delta asking them to clarify their policy regarding airplane mode. I got the following responses from two different reps:
So since they contradicted each other (it's allowed/crew has final say), I point blank asked: Is allowing airplane mode Delta policy (i.e. F/A can't override unless it becomes a safety issue), I wrote again, asking them to clarify -- which is it? Is airplane mode allowed by policy, or is it always the flight crew's call? The answer:
So I basically told them that if this becomes a common occurrence that I'll be flying someone else. (shrug)
Finding this somewhat curious, I sent an email to Delta asking them to clarify their policy regarding airplane mode. I got the following responses from two different reps:
Thank you for your e-mail to Delta Air Lines.
Once above 10,000 feet iphones can be used as long as the airplane mode setting is on. No phone calls are permitted once the aircraft door is shut unless the Captain advises differently.
We value your confidence and loyalty.
Sincerely,
(Rep #1)
Once above 10,000 feet iphones can be used as long as the airplane mode setting is on. No phone calls are permitted once the aircraft door is shut unless the Captain advises differently.
We value your confidence and loyalty.
Sincerely,
(Rep #1)
Thank you for contacting us.
Please note that the flight crew has the final word on when your can use
portable electronic devices onboard an aircraft.
Please view the following link for more information regarding the use of
these objects:
http://www.delta.com/traveling_check...ices/index.jsp
We appreciate your business and look forward to seeing you on your next
Delta flight.
(Rep #2)
Please note that the flight crew has the final word on when your can use
portable electronic devices onboard an aircraft.
Please view the following link for more information regarding the use of
these objects:
http://www.delta.com/traveling_check...ices/index.jsp
We appreciate your business and look forward to seeing you on your next
Delta flight.
(Rep #2)
So since they contradicted each other (it's allowed/crew has final say), I point blank asked: Is allowing airplane mode Delta policy (i.e. F/A can't override unless it becomes a safety issue), I wrote again, asking them to clarify -- which is it? Is airplane mode allowed by policy, or is it always the flight crew's call? The answer:
Thank you for your e-mail to Delta Air Lines.
Please note that the flight crew has the final word on when your can use
portable electronic devices onboard an aircraft.
Thank you for the opportunity to give this matter our final review. Any
additional correspondence will be kept on file.
Sincerely,
(Rep #3)
Please note that the flight crew has the final word on when your can use
portable electronic devices onboard an aircraft.
Thank you for the opportunity to give this matter our final review. Any
additional correspondence will be kept on file.
Sincerely,
(Rep #3)
So I basically told them that if this becomes a common occurrence that I'll be flying someone else. (shrug)


