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ScottC Jan 14, 2007 11:17 am


Originally Posted by typical (Post 7014655)
You'll also note that the iPhone doesn't have FCC approval yet - that is VERY unusual for an announced product these days...

No it's not. And it's pretty clever by Apple. The FCC has to be the worlds largest leaker of new products. The reason Jobs announced it now is because he had to, cause once the FCC approved it the documents would be all over the web. And it's better for them to announce it themselves than have the FCC do that for them.

derpelikan Jan 14, 2007 5:44 pm


Originally Posted by typical (Post 7014655)

There's more to it than chipset size. Although manufacturers are getting better and better at making the overall size increase negligible, that takes experience - that Apple doesn't have.

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well apple is working together with a OEM manufacturer.
the technique behind that phone is not apple only knowhow but a mix of german, japanese , chinese and apple technology . (the touchscreen is coming from a german company and it is not coming from elotouch :) which is good , as elotouch displays are crap)

dp

sithlord Jan 14, 2007 8:35 pm

I assume that I will able to use my best buy gift card for the purchase of iphone?

Kagehitokiri Jan 14, 2007 8:56 pm


I assume that I will able to use my best buy gift card for the purchase of iphone?
if the card allows the purchase of mobile phones, and best buy stocks the iphone..



maybe theyre still optimizing standby battery use/life..

and maybe the non US versions will have 3G..

CrazyOne Jan 14, 2007 9:55 pm

I read something just a little while ago that said that only Cingular and Apple stores (company-owned retail stores and their online stores) will sell the phone in the US, no third-party resellers from either camp.

http://thinksecret.com/news/0701applecingular.html

Can't say that would be verified for certain, but if so, no, your Best Buy gift card will not help.

derpelikan Jan 14, 2007 10:37 pm

first cingular only
 
but i am sure after a hold time of some month, i am sure other providers will sell the apple phones too.

vodafone and t-online are doing often similar things, they get phones first exclusive for some month, after that the non simlocked versions get into the normal shops.

dp

Kagehitokiri Jan 14, 2007 10:49 pm

remember, this is the US we're talking about.. :D

swise Jan 15, 2007 8:50 am


Originally Posted by CrazyOne (Post 7018507)
I read something just a little while ago that said that only Cingular and Apple stores (company-owned retail stores and their online stores) will sell the phone in the US, no third-party resellers from either camp.

http://thinksecret.com/news/0701applecingular.html

Can't say that would be verified for certain, but if so, no, your Best Buy gift card will not help.

That's what Steve Jobs said in the keynote:

The phone will be available through Apple Online and retail stores and at Cingular retail stores.

He didn't say "exclusively", but he didn't mention any other outlets either.

nmenaker Jan 15, 2007 8:54 am

2 years
 

Originally Posted by derpelikan (Post 7018676)
but i am sure after a hold time of some month, i am sure other providers will sell the apple phones too.

vodafone and t-online are doing often similar things, they get phones first exclusive for some month, after that the non simlocked versions get into the normal shops.

dp

I heard at macworld, they were talking a TWO year contract with cingular. This was not the two year contract a buyer is required to take, but a two year exclusive in the US at least with cingular/ATT

dtsm Jan 15, 2007 10:15 am


Originally Posted by swise (Post 7020247)
That's what Steve Jobs said in the keynote:

The phone will be available through Apple Online and retail stores and at Cingular retail stores.

He didn't say "exclusively", but he didn't mention any other outlets either.

Sorry to report but it is exclusive
http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0701applecingular.html

typical Jan 15, 2007 10:57 am


Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 7015157)
No it's not. And it's pretty clever by Apple. The FCC has to be the worlds largest leaker of new products. The reason Jobs announced it now is because he had to, cause once the FCC approved it the documents would be all over the web. And it's better for them to announce it themselves than have the FCC do that for them.

Well, I find it unusual, though you're right that people are now monitoring the FCC database and little seems to get through (see Zune). Also, most phones aren't released in the US first anyway. That said, it all delays the ship date (it must be quite far on if they've got permission to use it as they did in the keynote, though).


Originally Posted by derpelikan
well apple is working together with a OEM manufacturer.
the technique behind that phone is not apple only knowhow but a mix of german, japanese , chinese and apple technology.

Do we know which OEM? I wonder how many partners they do have - and how much fun integrating it all is going to be...

ScottC Jan 15, 2007 11:41 am


Originally Posted by typical (Post 7021023)
Well, I find it unusual, though you're right that people are now monitoring the FCC database and little seems to get through (see Zune). Also, most phones aren't released in the US first anyway. That said, it all delays the ship date (it must be quite far on if they've got permission to use it as they did in the keynote, though).

Doesn't matter if it released in the US at all actually, if it's got a radio capable of working in the US then it needs FCC certification.

The FCC is a real PITA for many companies as it makes it impossible to keep something a real secret. There are limited safeguards companies can put in place, like requesting certain aspects of the certification be kept secret, but you can't hide the fact that you are called Apple and that you are making a phone.

There are people that monitor the FCC and patent databases every single day for Apple related patents.

ScottC Jan 15, 2007 11:42 am


Originally Posted by typical (Post 7021023)
Do we know which OEM? I wonder how many partners they do have - and how much fun integrating it all is going to be...

From Engadget:

The all seeing, all powerful iPhone -- just like the iPod -- is powered by a Samsung processor according to an Apple spokeswoman speaking to Reuters. FBR Research believes that the remaining major components are supplied by Marvell (802.11), Infineon Technologies (baseband), Broadcom Corp. (touch screen controller), and Cambridge Silicon Radio (Bluetooth).

typical Jan 15, 2007 1:19 pm


Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 7021314)
From Engadget:

The all seeing, all powerful iPhone -- just like the iPod -- is powered by a Samsung processor according to an Apple spokeswoman speaking to Reuters. FBR Research believes that the remaining major components are supplied by Marvell (802.11), Infineon Technologies (baseband), Broadcom Corp. (touch screen controller), and Cambridge Silicon Radio (Bluetooth).

That sounds feasible, given Infineon and Samsung have reference platforms together (previously hyped as a next best hope for Linux on mobiles). I don't remember them having a 2G one, mind you.

skAAtinsteph Jan 15, 2007 1:36 pm


Originally Posted by derpelikan (Post 7018676)
but i am sure after a hold time of some month, i am sure other providers will sell the apple phones too.

vodafone and t-online are doing often similar things, they get phones first exclusive for some month, after that the non simlocked versions get into the normal shops.

dp

I think I heard somewhere that Apple and Cingular have a 2 year exclusive contract due to Cingular having to invest in various network upgrades for the phones to work on their network.


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