HTML Editors?
#31
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Originally Posted by kennethfine
For 99% of hobbyist sites and 99% of hobbyist applications, they Will Not Care about the esoterica of W3C compliance, and Frontpage will do the things they need it to.
-KF
-KF
I agree, they don't need to know about the esoterica of standards compliance; their tools ought to protect them from it.
#32
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Originally Posted by back seat
I don't know how I got sucked into this, but my wonderful daughter has volunteered my services to build and maintain her soccer team website.
I have no template to work from so I get to decide what to do, but the main purpose of the website is to have a calendar of practices and tournaments, plus later in the year post some pictures on it.
YES I want a WYSIWYG tool and something very easy to use as I would like to get my daughter to maintain the website.
I looked at Dream weaver and I might be interested in it at a later date, but right now I just need to get a website built ASAP.
I have no template to work from so I get to decide what to do, but the main purpose of the website is to have a calendar of practices and tournaments, plus later in the year post some pictures on it.
YES I want a WYSIWYG tool and something very easy to use as I would like to get my daughter to maintain the website.
I looked at Dream weaver and I might be interested in it at a later date, but right now I just need to get a website built ASAP.
Despite their crass commercials, I like godaddy.com for domain names and administration. I've never used their website builder, but have faith that it would be a lot simpler than anything previously mentioned.
(Edit: I just took a quick look at "Web Site Tonight" at godaddy.com and I think this is exactly what you need for the site you describe. Surely they will have a soccer template and it will be so well done, you'll find yourself building websites for all your daughter's activities!)
Your such a good dad -
Last edited by bgmvp; Feb 13, 2006 at 2:40 pm
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Originally Posted by dannyr
Personally I use Notepad and Dreamweaver, but I learned on AWeb Developer by Gary Hodder.
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google page creator?
I noticed this yesterday ... followed a link from google labs to find it.
beta or maybe even pre-beta? and somewhat restrictive as it creates your pages on <gmail-name>.googlepages.com, but some may want to give it a shot.
http://pages.google.com/
Oh well, never mind. It takes you to a page where you can enter your email addy when they are ready to give out more accounts.
-David
beta or maybe even pre-beta? and somewhat restrictive as it creates your pages on <gmail-name>.googlepages.com, but some may want to give it a shot.
http://pages.google.com/
Oh well, never mind. It takes you to a page where you can enter your email addy when they are ready to give out more accounts.
-David
Last edited by LIH Prem; Mar 5, 2006 at 11:47 pm
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Originally Posted by LIH Prem
Oh well, never mind. It takes you to a page where you can enter your email addy when they are ready to give out more accounts.
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shameless plug:
http://www.htmlcenter.com
end shameless plug
FYI, It is amazing that basically the WYSIWYG market has dropped from 100's of tools to really just Dreamweaver in the lead.
http://www.htmlcenter.com
end shameless plug
FYI, It is amazing that basically the WYSIWYG market has dropped from 100's of tools to really just Dreamweaver in the lead.
#41
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back seat: Conventional wisdom says that if you know anything about HTML, just do a "view source" in your web browser. If you see something that's merely disgustingly bad, it probably came out of DreamWeaver. If it's unbelievably horribly awful, most likely a Microsoft product. (Sadly, this has spawned a mini-industry to create so-called "HTML optimizers"--products that take the substandard output from pricey commercial products and regurgitate it in a less embarrassing form.)
I've often wondered why HTML editors even exist; it's not like HTML is complicated. The most difficult and time-consuming aspects of putting together a decent web site typically involve design and graphics work--two things HTML editors don't address. "Cookie-cutter templates" are OK, I guess, if you don't mind a "one size fits none" approach. Actually, I can see one advantage: HTML editors might save some time when producing conceptual designs and mockups. My hope is that all of these would at least produce valid documents. (Sigh, whimper.)
I favor the "immersion" approach: go web surfing. Just do what you normally do, but start taking notes. Which sites work for you? Which ones don't? What do the "good" ones do right? What do the "bad" ones get wrong? This lets you develop your own "success criteria" for what constitutes a "good" site. You should do this regardless of whether you intend to build your own, or hire someone else to do the work. Step away from the computer, and sketch out on paper what you'd like to see.
Then, take a look at the free stuff. For example, see if Nvu or SeaMonkey's Composer will meet your needs.
Things every web author should read:
I've often wondered why HTML editors even exist; it's not like HTML is complicated. The most difficult and time-consuming aspects of putting together a decent web site typically involve design and graphics work--two things HTML editors don't address. "Cookie-cutter templates" are OK, I guess, if you don't mind a "one size fits none" approach. Actually, I can see one advantage: HTML editors might save some time when producing conceptual designs and mockups. My hope is that all of these would at least produce valid documents. (Sigh, whimper.)
I favor the "immersion" approach: go web surfing. Just do what you normally do, but start taking notes. Which sites work for you? Which ones don't? What do the "good" ones do right? What do the "bad" ones get wrong? This lets you develop your own "success criteria" for what constitutes a "good" site. You should do this regardless of whether you intend to build your own, or hire someone else to do the work. Step away from the computer, and sketch out on paper what you'd like to see.
Then, take a look at the free stuff. For example, see if Nvu or SeaMonkey's Composer will meet your needs.
Things every web author should read:
- A message to clueless website authors a/k/a Morons in web space!
- Viewable with Any Browser
- Alertbox: Current Issues in Web Usability
#42
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Originally Posted by back seat
Is it possible to tell what editor a person used to create a website?
Code:
<meta name="generator" content="vBulletin 3.0.7" />
#43
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It is Soccer Season again . .. .
My daughter made the travel team again
- bad news is she has volunteered me again for website duty
. . . .
Last year's website was made with "Free Tools" from 1and1.com but I am considering something else - something easier to post pictures and make the site "flashier".
Any new updates on options for HTML editors for basic users?
Thanks
- bad news is she has volunteered me again for website duty
. . . .Last year's website was made with "Free Tools" from 1and1.com but I am considering something else - something easier to post pictures and make the site "flashier".
Any new updates on options for HTML editors for basic users?
Thanks
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