HTML Editors?
#16
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 15,788
I haven't tried any of these, but fromthe descriptions some sound promising...
http://pcworld.about.com/news/Nov062000id33868.htm
http://pcworld.about.com/news/Nov062000id33868.htm
#17

Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: ATL
Posts: 3,219
#19
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: SNA Rwy 20L
Programs: QF Silver
Posts: 703
For a free editor I use the Mozilla web browser (www.mozilla.org). Call up any page on the web that appeals to you and select FILE > EDIT PAGE and it's pretty easy to modify. Handles tables, backgrounds, etc. easily in a WYSIWYG format.
#20
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Washington, DC USA
Programs: UA; Amtrak
Posts: 2,002
Frontpage used to be truly atrocious. In fact, I have a number of consulting contracts which originated as "we tried to use Frontpage and broke our site" or "we never needed outside help before, we managed with Frontpage until..." phone calls. There were innumerable hilarious stories shared with other web developers. Frontpage 2003, however, produces significantly less bloated, less non-standard code than its predecessors. For a hobby site, it should be fine.
Too bad the same cannot be said of the HTML export features of Office. Stay away from any temptation to "Save As" from Word or Excel.
Dreamweaver is also very widely used and has a very large user community that contributes plugins and templates. The MX 2004 edition is also a big improvement over the slow/buggy MX 2002 edition. It may be overkill for a site that consists of a half-dozen, mostly static pages, however.
Avoid Adobe GoLive.
Too bad the same cannot be said of the HTML export features of Office. Stay away from any temptation to "Save As" from Word or Excel.
Dreamweaver is also very widely used and has a very large user community that contributes plugins and templates. The MX 2004 edition is also a big improvement over the slow/buggy MX 2002 edition. It may be overkill for a site that consists of a half-dozen, mostly static pages, however.
Avoid Adobe GoLive.
Last edited by choster; Feb 9, 2006 at 6:01 pm
#21
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: DEN
Posts: 1,962
Originally Posted by back seat
I have no template to work from so I get to decide what to do, but the main purpose of the website is to have a calendar of practices and tournaments, plus later in the year post some pictures on it.
Here's an example of it embedded in a website: http://cantabileboulder.org/?page_id=25.
#24
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Programs: QC, QF, Avis Preferred, BW Crown Club, Priority Club
Posts: 1,451
Originally Posted by nerd
Notepad?


#27
Join Date: Dec 2005
Programs: AA EXP 1MM, Delta Plat
Posts: 322
I've used all of these editors; making websites and web applications is my job. With that in mind:
The Microsoft haters of the world will steer you away from Frontpage, but this attitude seems to miss the point. As another poster has already suggested, the newer versions of the program produce much more conformant code. For 99% of hobbyist sites and 99% of hobbyist applications, they Will Not Care about the esoterica of W3C compliance, and Frontpage will do the things they need it to.
I use Dreamweaver 8 and it would be my recommendation for the broadest range of uses and skillsets. Unlike Frontpage, it doesn't really try to supply you with a template, but it is a good, easy-to-use visual editing environment that doesn't disconnect you too much from code.
For a hobbyist, stay away from Ultraedit, Homesite, and other code-only environments. I make a lot of my best sites in Visual Studio.NET -- a ~$1000 programming environment -- but there's no way in hell I'd recommend something like it for hobbyist/amateur use. These expert systems are made for speed and control, not for ease-of-use for newbie applications.
-KF
The Microsoft haters of the world will steer you away from Frontpage, but this attitude seems to miss the point. As another poster has already suggested, the newer versions of the program produce much more conformant code. For 99% of hobbyist sites and 99% of hobbyist applications, they Will Not Care about the esoterica of W3C compliance, and Frontpage will do the things they need it to.
I use Dreamweaver 8 and it would be my recommendation for the broadest range of uses and skillsets. Unlike Frontpage, it doesn't really try to supply you with a template, but it is a good, easy-to-use visual editing environment that doesn't disconnect you too much from code.
For a hobbyist, stay away from Ultraedit, Homesite, and other code-only environments. I make a lot of my best sites in Visual Studio.NET -- a ~$1000 programming environment -- but there's no way in hell I'd recommend something like it for hobbyist/amateur use. These expert systems are made for speed and control, not for ease-of-use for newbie applications.
-KF
#28
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Near an airport
Programs: FB, EB, Delta, AC, PC, HH.
Posts: 1,991
Originally Posted by cblaisd
Front Page Express (included in Windows 98SE) is something I continue to copy over to subsequent computers and am still using on my Windows XP. Very simple interface for very simple websites.
And free.
And free.
I hate the stuff. When working for an ISP and getting website support questions it was *always* Frontpage errors.
I use Dreamweaver at work on my Mac.
I'd love to have Homesite (Macromedia) but sadly it's only available for PC and I saw the light 3 years ago.
Mac users, get iLife 06 and a .mac account. You're limited to half a dozen templates in iWeb but t is fairly OK.
I hate Steve Jobs for iWeb. He killed my line of work with that. *sigh*
/E
#29
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Near an airport
Programs: FB, EB, Delta, AC, PC, HH.
Posts: 1,991
Originally Posted by kennethfine
For a hobbyist, stay away from Ultraedit, Homesite, and other code-only environments. I make a lot of my best sites in Visual Studio.NET -- a ~$1000 programming environment -- but there's no way in hell I'd recommend something like it for hobbyist/amateur use. These expert systems are made for speed and control, not for ease-of-use for newbie applications.
-KF
-KF
It's over 6 years ago I used Frontpage. At first thought it was the bee's knees until I knew different. With Fireworks and Dreamweaver I gained a whole different understanding on what can be done.
/E - am also in the web industry.
#30
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 238
I used dreamweaver before and needed a free alternative and came across this:
http://www.nvu.com/
You may want to look into, it worked ok for me when I used it but didn't scrutinize very heavily on how good the output HTML was.
http://www.nvu.com/
You may want to look into, it worked ok for me when I used it but didn't scrutinize very heavily on how good the output HTML was.








