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RSSrsvp Feb 21, 2005 1:59 pm


Originally Posted by jfe
I don't think it makes a difference.

The Cardo has been working very well for me, maybe the more expensive Jabra sets are superior, but for the price that the Cardo has, it's a very good choice.

So far ;)

I just ordered the Cardo Scala 500 and hopefully my wife will like using it. If she doesn't, I might take the headset along with her Treo 650 and use it for myself. :)

GadgetFreak Feb 21, 2005 7:40 pm


Originally Posted by nmenaker
yeah, they are really not here yet. All the ebay ads are for units that have come from abroad. Supposedly, hello direct, will get them before anyone, on the 28th of February . then, they will ship by the 2nd.


I should have mine by the 3rd then. :-)

www.blueheadsets.com seems to have them. I have gotten a Motorola headset and Jabra speaker from them. They seem to have good prices and in one case there was a problem with something I bought and they replaced it immediately with another one. They seem to be pretty expert from communicating with them. By the way, they have some compatibility warnings on the Jabra with some handsets according to these people. They said to be wary with those handsets until more testing was done. It might be worth checking out their site even if you dont end up buying from them to look at the information they have posted.

jfe Feb 25, 2005 9:17 am

They have the plantronics at eCost for $35

http://www.ecost.com/ecost/shop/deta...email,EWB07018

I don't know if they are any good, but at least they are cheap

They probably ran out of the Cardos ;)

fduvall Feb 25, 2005 1:19 pm

A bit off topic, as this equipment is not for sale yet, but there is a client of mine Cellpoint that will be releasing a device called Flamingo pretty soon. I have not used it yet, but have seen the prototype and can't wait for them to give me on to play with.

FDuvall

http://cellpoint.com/flamingo.asp

alanw Apr 18, 2005 3:15 pm


Originally Posted by fduvall
A bit off topic, as this equipment is not for sale yet, but there is a client of mine Cellpoint that will be releasing a device called Flamingo pretty soon. I have not used it yet, but have seen the prototype and can't wait for them to give me on to play with.

FDuvall

http://cellpoint.com/flamingo.asp

Please see also: http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/perip...tic-but-100074

jetsetter Apr 18, 2005 7:33 pm

Will Any BT Headset Work With PC/PDA
 
I mainly want to use a BT headset to listen to audio from a pc or a pocket pc device:
*Do all the devices work with computers, or are some only for mobile phones;
*It looks like some devices cannot be paired with more than one other device? E.g. can't have a pc, pocket pc, and mobile phone;
*My mobile phone does not have BT. Is there any kind of adapter you can plug in to make the audio jack on the mobile phone work with BT?
Thanks..

PremEx Apr 19, 2005 2:14 am


mainly want to use a BT headset to listen to audio from a pc or a pocket pc device:
*Do all the devices work with computers, or are some only for mobile phones

I don't think transmitting audio from your PC to a Bluetooth headset is any option of any of the Bluetooth supported profiles. Yet.

Audio from Cell Phones...yes. But I don't think you can route your PC's sound to your PCs Bluetooth devise.

I could be totally wrong about this, of course. But I've never found a way to do that.

mbreuer Apr 19, 2005 6:39 am

I have no issue routing sound from my PDA, Cell and Laptop to my BT headset. I also inadvertently routed my Cellphone audio to my laptop... made a call and was a bit startled when the voice came out of the laptop... was using the laptop/BT/Cell connection for internet access at the time.

ScottC Apr 19, 2005 6:47 am


Originally Posted by PremEx
I don't think transmitting audio from your PC to a Bluetooth headset is any option of any of the Bluetooth supported profiles. Yet.

Audio from Cell Phones...yes. But I don't think you can route your PC's sound to your PCs Bluetooth devise.

I could be totally wrong about this, of course. But I've never found a way to do that.

Yes, you are totally wrong :D

Many of the recent Bluetooth stacks (drivers) include audio, same with most PDA's. I have tried and tested this many times, sound quality isn't great (it doesn't send full quality audio) but it isn't bad. There are also "real" bluetooth headsets that do send full quality stereo headsets...

Darren Apr 19, 2005 6:53 am


Originally Posted by ScottC
Yes, you are totally wrong :D

Many of the recent Bluetooth stacks (drivers) include audio, same with most PDA's. I have tried and tested this many times, sound quality isn't great (it doesn't send full quality audio) but it isn't bad. There are also "real" bluetooth headsets that do send full quality stereo headsets...

I imagine, though, that the limited battery life would be a problem. Most of the headsets are made small enough so the batteries are fairly small. I want to say my Sony has a bit under 2hr talk time which should be the same time for listening to music.

swise Apr 19, 2005 1:06 pm


Originally Posted by ScottC
Yes, you are totally wrong :D

Many of the recent Bluetooth stacks (drivers) include audio, same with most PDA's. I have tried and tested this many times, sound quality isn't great (it doesn't send full quality audio) but it isn't bad. There are also "real" bluetooth headsets that do send full quality stereo headsets...

In addition, Mac OS X has support BT headsets for a while now.

alanw Apr 19, 2005 1:28 pm


Originally Posted by Darren
I imagine, though, that the limited battery life would be a problem. Most of the headsets are made small enough so the batteries are fairly small. I want to say my Sony has a bit under 2hr talk time which should be the same time for listening to music.

My Scala 500 runs around 9 hours; I use it for Skype calls every day. Works great.

PremEx Apr 19, 2005 3:57 pm

ScottC...based on your post I went about looking at the different "Profiles" available with the Bluetooth that's built into my laptop and came up with these:


Types of profiles

The following profiles are supported by the TOSHIBA Bluetooth Utility:

Term Definition

-DUN Dial-Up Networking
Enables you to establish a dial-up Bluetooth connection to the Internet or other networks with a wireless modem station, mobile telephone, or similar device.

-FAX FAX
Enables you to establish a Bluetooth connection with a wireless modem station, mobile telephone, or similar device to send or receive a fax.

-LAP LAN Access Profile
Enables you to establish a Bluetooth connection with a LAN access point to access the services of a LAN using PPP.

-SPP Serial Port Profile
Enables communication with a device through a virtual serial port configured for a Bluetooth connection. This can be used for printers and printer adapters with PDAs, using a different method from HCRP or ActiveSync.

-HID Human Interface Device Profile
Allows connections to wireless mice, keyboards and other input devices.

-HCRP Hardcopy Cable Replacement Profile
Enables printing with a printer driver.

-FTP File Transfer Profile
Enables you to browse folders on a wireless device and transfer files to and from the local device.

-OPP Object Push Profile
Allows business card data to be exchanged with a wireless device.

-HSP Head Set Profile
Profile used for headsets.
Allows you to connect to a PC and communicate as well as connect to a mobile telephone.


-PAN Personal Area Networking Profile
Supports IP base network. Allows connection to an ad-hoc or wired network via an access point.

-BIP Basic Imaging Profile
Allows image files to be sent and received after having been converted to a size suitable for the destination. In addition to being able to transfer image files, the TOSHIBA Bluetooth Utility allows camera shutters to be operated by remote control, as well as other offering other functionalities.
Are these "Profiles" the same thing as the "Stacks" you mention? And is this HSP one the one I need?

I didn't think this was possible as in another thread where I inquired about playing audio from my laptop via Bluetooth to some sort of Bluetooth speakers, I was advised there was pretty much no way to do that.

What I'm trying to do here is play movies on my laptop, and get the sound via Bluetooth wireless headsets. Can this be done if I purchase a set of Bluetooth headsets that also supports this HSP thing? Or is my Bluetooth Driver missing the type of Profile that would support what I'm trying to do? Battery issues aside. Thanks!

ScottC Apr 19, 2005 4:14 pm

There are 2 kinds of audio-bluetooth profiles (3 actually). Two of them are for headsets/handsfree kits, and only transfer mono audio on a pretty crappy quality, pretty much the same quality as your cellphone will give you, certainly not suitable for a movie, though perfect for VoIP phone calls like AlanW mentioned. Then there is a true "Bluetooth Audio" profile, this supports real stereo audio in high quality, like these ones:

http://www.expansys-usa.com/product.asp?code=114076

Because so few laptops come with the right bluetooth profiles (for Bluetooth Audio) they include an audio-in to Bluetooth adapter.

PremEx Apr 19, 2005 4:50 pm

ScottC...thanks! But you lost me here:


Because so few laptops come with the right bluetooth profiles (for Bluetooth Audio) they include an audio-in to Bluetooth adapter.
I'm not sure what you're saying here. Do I need some sort of adapter?

Or do I just need something like your linked stereo headset's Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP) driver added to my laptop's mix of supported Bluetooth Profiles?

My laptop has standard stereo mini jacks for Line In, Microphone, and Headset...if that helps. And of course has Bluetooth built-in.

Thanks.


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