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[This message has been edited by NickP 1K (edited 08-22-2003).]

How does it do browsing? Is it like the sidekick where the pages are pre-rendered on THEIR servers?

Nope, they use the 4th pass broswer.. Similar to what Opera does. The pages and images are rendered on the device like it's a true browser... No pre rendering pages elsewhere.

You don't need to subscribe to a special unique service to browse the web. You just need GPRS internet access.

[This message has been edited by NickP 1K (edited 08-22-2003).]

With the BB, there are two ways to browse that I am aware of: via a proxy maintained by the cell company like TMO, their "T-Zones". I use T-Zones and find it frustrating. It does an acceptable job but is slow and often unavailable.

Or via the Blackberry Exchange Server, BES, which serves as a proxy for the BB and works apparently much better. I don't have this so I can't say.

Via the BES is the way to go, however T-Mobile US doesn't offer the app... We did hack the old package from O2 UK to move their version of the app onto the older T-Mobile units we had. Need to do this with the 6230 and see if it still works. Going this route also lets you view intranet content for wherever the BES server is in your org. Everything STILL gets encrypted between your handheld and the BES server.

Yes, but the consumer service lets anyone buy a BB and instantly use it for push email using the Blackberry Web Client, BWC. Plus some providers offer a proxy server, such as T-Mobile's T-Zones, so at least some browsing is possible.

BES is far superior. Some companies sell BES and Exchange on an outsourcing basis but to me it isn't worth the extra trouble.

You do get syncing with Outlook including your folders and calendar, which you do not get with BWC. Also, you get 3DES encryption which you do not get with BWC (BWC uses some kind of weak encryption.)

Someone wasn't very careful when selling their Blackberry.

http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,60052,00.html

I use an old Blackberry 957 with service thru Aether.

I can't browse the web.

How are the new ones different?

My use is mailnly in the US.

I suppose this is really a question for formal Support, but can you sign on to www.priceline.com from a 7230?

I'm getting a Javascript error saying my email address isn't valid. (It works on a normal PC.)
Thanks.
Rich

I have been having big problems with my BB on T-Mobile in Northern Virginia for the last 5 days or so. I am not altogether thrilled and have spent several hours with tech support http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr...m/rolleyes.gif

Richard... just so your problem thread... sorry I've been OFF FT for a week due to travel/work...

Is this on T-Mobile's network or a roaming agreement? Has T-Mobile opened a trouble ticket... If they've done nothing since now, let me know via email and I can see if our T-mobile rep can ping their network ops on what the problem is.

So far I've been in Europe with my US T-Mobile 6230 Blackberry with no issues for the last week. So may just be an issue related to a local network problem?

Are you using the Standard browser? (e.g. do you have the Blackberry browser and use a BES?)

Bottom line is the existing Mobitex/CDPD blackberries WILL go away in the next 2-3 years. AT&T is already converting users now, Cingular/(old Bellsouth) is supposed to start converts in 2004.

The newer units although battery life is slightly less (depends on use really) give the following benefits

- faster app processor
- more memory
- wireless/over the network reconcile (no need to synch in the cradle). Synch'd email read/unread, folder moves, server deletes, folder name list
- Corporate over the air address lookup. No need to have the entire Global Address List synch'd to the device
- Some units have USB (62XX/72XX)
- Some units have color (72XX)
- WAP/WML/HTML browsing
- BES hosted web broswing (with Blackberry BES browser, allows Intranet use)
- Java based app and OS framework. You can develop Java apps to deploy for wireless data xfer or static apps
- GSM/GPRS, CDMA and iDen networks now supported.
- GSM/GPRS units support multiple bands; either dual band 900/1900 or tri band 900/1800/1900. (Asia/Europe units also support 900/1800). A quad band version is pending as well for the 62XX and 72XX family supporting 850, which is rural GSM/GPRS coverage overlay for upgrades to AMPS/Analog networks

New Blackberry support in the US
GSM/GPRS: Cingular, T-Mobile, ATTWS
CDMA: Verizon
iDen: Nextel



[This message has been edited by NickP 1K (edited 09-01-2003).]

Seems like Richard and I are the only ones on this thread now responding http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr...orum/smile.gif

Got the 7230 today... Really nice... Only problem is that the backlight is NOT very good. It's acceptable considering battery life is a premium, but nowhere close to an IPAQ or other device. Guess that's what we get for a color Blackberry and good battery life.

Like the ability to choose other fonts... The display is really sharp and the screen coating provides for GREAT viewing in direct light or sunlight.

Hey, this is a fun dialog!

The backlight feature doesn't bother me because it is useful in true lowlight or nolight conditions. It is not useful if the room lighting is just plain dim, but that is a narrow range of conditions.

My Smartphone sucks battery juice and you can't read the screen in bright daylight, so I am happy with the compromise.

The size of the 7230 is also wonderful. It is so small. I don't feel comforble using the phone without the headset, though you can if you don't mind feeling dorky.

I'm on my third day without charging and using it all the time. 60% battery life left!

I also love the USB charging. This makes so much sense.