Logitech Premium USB Stereo Headset 30, huge problem!
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Logitech Premium USB Stereo Headset 30, huge problem!
I bought myself one of these headsets 2 days ago. The installation was easy and they worked right away. But the sound really sucks! No way to control the bass. They sound like a old mono radio from the 60´s 
Anyone know how to control the bass settings in Win XP? I can´t adjust it the same way as I can with my regular sound card. Logitech does not provide any support online for this model yet and no drivers to download. I´m really disapointed paying 60USD for this!!

Anyone know how to control the bass settings in Win XP? I can´t adjust it the same way as I can with my regular sound card. Logitech does not provide any support online for this model yet and no drivers to download. I´m really disapointed paying 60USD for this!!
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ScottC:
The sound device has to support it, if it does it will be in your volume control under options>advanced controls.</font>
The sound device has to support it, if it does it will be in your volume control under options>advanced controls.</font>

My advice is to stay away from this headset!
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Gustaf:
Correct, it is normal for the bass setting to show up in the sound mixer. But when in advanced mode it only shows the volume settings for: Speakers, Wave, SW Synth, CD Player and Microphone. No bass or other more advanced settings are shown (they do show if I switch to my Nvidia NForce 2 sound adapter instead of the USB Logitech headset). My guess is that this headset has it owns inbulit sound processor and does not use the Nvidia card at all. Problem might be in the device drivers and Logitech does not have any new drivers released yet
My advice is to stay away from this headset!</font>
Correct, it is normal for the bass setting to show up in the sound mixer. But when in advanced mode it only shows the volume settings for: Speakers, Wave, SW Synth, CD Player and Microphone. No bass or other more advanced settings are shown (they do show if I switch to my Nvidia NForce 2 sound adapter instead of the USB Logitech headset). My guess is that this headset has it owns inbulit sound processor and does not use the Nvidia card at all. Problem might be in the device drivers and Logitech does not have any new drivers released yet

My advice is to stay away from this headset!</font>
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Just out of morbid curiosity, why did you buy this product? It isn't as if there's a shortage of headphone jacks on a computer. I just don't see any need for usb speakers or headphones...
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by skofarrell:
Just out of morbid curiosity, why did you buy this product? It isn't as if there's a shortage of headphone jacks on a computer. I just don't see any need for usb speakers or headphones...</font>
Just out of morbid curiosity, why did you buy this product? It isn't as if there's a shortage of headphone jacks on a computer. I just don't see any need for usb speakers or headphones...</font>
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by skofarrell:
Just out of morbid curiosity, why did you buy this product? It isn't as if there's a shortage of headphone jacks on a computer. I just don't see any need for usb speakers or headphones...</font>
Just out of morbid curiosity, why did you buy this product? It isn't as if there's a shortage of headphone jacks on a computer. I just don't see any need for usb speakers or headphones...</font>
This headset is ok for VOIP calls but for games and music it simply sucks. I will call Logitech to see if they can help me with better device drivers. Maybe it´s possible to find a tweak utility that can power up the bass.
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There is talk of a digital low cost interface for PC audio to do HIGH quality audio via USB WHILE still using a dedicated DSP on the PC (e.g. a Creative SoundBlaster 64 or nForce2 audio, etc).
There are ways to do passthrough today for this stream, but you have to ensure latency issues are addressed otherwise audio will be a few hundred miliseconds off sync.
Your biggest enemy with USB speakers or headphones *IS* going to be CPU utilization as the OS handles the stream and this takes sometime away from anything else (e.g. more noticeable in some games)
Also if you have a digital output on your audio chip/card, try these
(expensive) but nice...
Sony MDR-DS8000 or the Sony MDR-DS5100
(Sorry no Sony link as their website sucks for linking:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-2pUSnps...p?I=158MDRDS51
http://www.800stereo.com/prods/sony-mdr-ds8000.html
[This message has been edited by NickP 1K (edited 11-05-2003).]
There are ways to do passthrough today for this stream, but you have to ensure latency issues are addressed otherwise audio will be a few hundred miliseconds off sync.
Your biggest enemy with USB speakers or headphones *IS* going to be CPU utilization as the OS handles the stream and this takes sometime away from anything else (e.g. more noticeable in some games)
Also if you have a digital output on your audio chip/card, try these
(expensive) but nice...Sony MDR-DS8000 or the Sony MDR-DS5100
(Sorry no Sony link as their website sucks for linking:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-2pUSnps...p?I=158MDRDS51
http://www.800stereo.com/prods/sony-mdr-ds8000.html
[This message has been edited by NickP 1K (edited 11-05-2003).]
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by NickP 1K:
There are ways to do passthrough today for this stream, but you have to ensure latency issues are addressed otherwise audio will be a few hundred miliseconds off sync.</font>
There are ways to do passthrough today for this stream, but you have to ensure latency issues are addressed otherwise audio will be a few hundred miliseconds off sync.</font>
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BTW, would it be possible to use some kind of adapter so that this usb device could be used on the regular analouge output of my nvidia soundcard?
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Gustaf:
BTW, would it be possible to use some kind of adapter so that this usb device could be used on the regular analouge output of my nvidia soundcard?</font>
BTW, would it be possible to use some kind of adapter so that this usb device could be used on the regular analouge output of my nvidia soundcard?</font>
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Scott is right... Today on PC's it is NOT possible.
There is a provision to start to get digital headphones supported in Longhorn.
Bottom line is DSP's with HW 3D Audio WILL be standard on all PC's by 2005... Hope is that a standard for either USB passthrough OR digital headphones with a more flexible (from a plug in plug out perspective over optical) will come forward.
Have you looked at using the optical Sony's I mentioned
There is a provision to start to get digital headphones supported in Longhorn.
Bottom line is DSP's with HW 3D Audio WILL be standard on all PC's by 2005... Hope is that a standard for either USB passthrough OR digital headphones with a more flexible (from a plug in plug out perspective over optical) will come forward.
Have you looked at using the optical Sony's I mentioned
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by NickP 1K:
Have you looked at using the optical Sony's I mentioned
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Have you looked at using the optical Sony's I mentioned
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But US499 is really too much for me (unless I can buy them for miles
). And i´m still in need of that microphone feature.

