Android shaming?
#46

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File management was one of the main reasons when I switched from an iPhone 3G to android, 13/14 years ago? Data was still expansive back then and I don't think there were many streaming music services. Now no one I know has actual music files on their phones. I have not used my "file management" in years. I really see no difference between iPhone and Android other than my investment on the Play store. I do have a lot of purchased apps as I get free Google Opinion credit so I kept buying premium apps. So for that, if the price and function are similar, I will probably go with Android.
#47




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Yup, I'm another with music actually downloaded on my phone. A) I don't run an unlimited data plan (no need for it) and B) often when I most want music on the phone it's also areas where quite frankly there's no reception anyways, so streaming isn't going to do any good.
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Yup, I'm another with music actually downloaded on my phone. A) I don't run an unlimited data plan (no need for it) and B) often when I most want music on the phone it's also areas where quite frankly there's no reception anyways, so streaming isn't going to do any good.
#49

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Why do you need to have a complex file structure? I have one folder for music, one for videos and one for photos (well, ones that I want to keep that the camera app doesn't like to deposit to)... There are three copies of my music folder... one on my desktop, one on my phone and one in my archival NAS. If one source fails, I can recover by copying it back from one of the missing folders. Don't get me wrong... I still stream as well, but I don't have to be online and my file management is really minimal... except for when I get a new phone, I don't necessarily need to manage the file system more than say once a month (if that).
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Why do you need to have a complex file structure? I have one folder for music, one for videos and one for photos (well, ones that I want to keep that the camera app doesn't like to deposit to)... There are three copies of my music folder... one on my desktop, one on my phone and one in my archival NAS. If one source fails, I can recover by copying it back from one of the missing folders. Don't get me wrong... I still stream as well, but I don't have to be online and my file management is really minimal... except for when I get a new phone, I don't necessarily need to manage the file system more than say once a month (if that).
i also used to be an archivist - its not the most cumbersome thing in the world, but anything even marginally easier is still marginally better.
#51


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yes there are countless noise-cancelling, fully wireless earbuds on android as well. ive had them and used them... just really hard to top the polish of AirPods and their H1 bluetooth chip
#52



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Meh.
To me the one killer feature some Samsungs have that Apple doesn't is the "Dex" feature...where you can plug your phone into a monitor/keyboard/mouse via a USB-dongle and bingo, you've got a usable desktop machine. It ain't great... but I'd love that functionality. My only desktop computer is a work-issued machine. I'd love to have my phone double as a "personal" computer for casual / family data I don't want near my work computer. Of course Samsung's refusal to enable the eSim / Dual Sim option on most US phones makes it a non-starter.
To me the one killer feature some Samsungs have that Apple doesn't is the "Dex" feature...where you can plug your phone into a monitor/keyboard/mouse via a USB-dongle and bingo, you've got a usable desktop machine. It ain't great... but I'd love that functionality. My only desktop computer is a work-issued machine. I'd love to have my phone double as a "personal" computer for casual / family data I don't want near my work computer. Of course Samsung's refusal to enable the eSim / Dual Sim option on most US phones makes it a non-starter.
#53


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I have an iPhone now. I don't like it. How can - after all these years - I still not be able to move icons wherever I want (i.e. why can't I add a gap intentionally)? It's these simple and stupid customizable things that drive me crazy about Apple.
OnePlus is 100% the best phone I've ever had. I would have bought another one if they hadn't grown even larger.
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"Customization" and "flexibility" is the perpetual criticism, but it doesn't prove to be a value-add. How commercially successful are *NIX on front-end systems?
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#57

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That's the thing about iOS. Apple decides on what they think a better user experience is and then people take it (and accept it). I'm not necessarily saying that's always a bad thing, but it is based on their perception. M$ (eg, W8/8.1) and Google (constant ending of applications) are just as guilty of this as well. But it's nice to have the ability to customize things to ways you want. You just have to live with the shortcomings of whatever ecosystem you choose.
Probably because they have decided it's not worth doing - not enough people need icon spacing customizability. FWIW, my app and folder sorting on android is essentially identical to iphone. Widgets are different as apple widgets are not as rich. But it's not anywhere near a dealbreaker.
"Customization" and "flexibility" is the perpetual criticism, but it doesn't prove to be a value-add. How commercially successful are *NIX on front-end systems?
"Customization" and "flexibility" is the perpetual criticism, but it doesn't prove to be a value-add. How commercially successful are *NIX on front-end systems?
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That's the thing about iOS. Apple decides on what they think a better user experience is and then people take it (and accept it). I'm not necessarily saying that's always a bad thing, but it is based on their perception. M$ (eg, W8/8.1) and Google (constant ending of applications) are just as guilty of this as well. But it's nice to have the ability to customize things to ways you want. You just have to live with the shortcomings of whatever ecosystem you choose.
Even as a super techie user, I never once "customized" the icons or the home screen layout of any of my Android phones. I just never felt the need or desire to.
In Product Management there are several KEY considerations that need to be made before developing a product:
- Is the problem pervasive in the market...aka do a large number of the target audience experience the problem?
- Is the problem urgent in the minds of users?
- Will people pay to solve the problem?
#59

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In Product Management there are several KEY considerations that need to be made before developing a product:
- Is the problem pervasive in the market...aka do a large number of the target audience experience the problem?
- Is the problem urgent in the minds of users?
- Will people pay to solve the problem?
#60
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In reality, Apple doesn't want that feature in iPhones because their marketing has hypnotized their users that you MUST buy a Macbook and iPad and Airpods Pro to complete your "Going to Starbucks or WeWork" outfit. Buying more products also makes shareholders happy.
Full disclosure: I've owned many Samsung phones, and I've never used Dex. I have a laptop and desktop computer when I need to read a lot of material or write long e-mails.
This is where Google/Android fouls up. Market research is where they need help. A good example of this is any number of "Google xxx" apps...They get an idea for an app and open it to the public... then they either cancel the app without rhyme or reason or let it die a slow agonizing death and say it wasn't popular.(Google Play Music for example or Hangouts). Unfortunately it impacts the existing users. But then again, everyone is impacted by stuff like this.
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