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draver Jan 16, 2021 8:09 am
Originally Posted by exp (Post 32971468)
I think it requires a new modem, not some software update.

IOW, no dual 5G before iPhone 13 at least.

Hmm, so if I turn off the eSIM, I will have no problems toggling it off and on so that it's only using one network at a time?
You don't switch the esim on or off, you switch the line on it on or off. Subtle distinction, but more accurate since the esim is the equivalent of the sim tray. The lines are accessed on the first screen in the Settings Menu under Cellular. Touch either line and you have a toggle button option to "Turn On This Line". I don't expect 5G to be widespread in too many locations world wide for a while, and even when it is, it may not be included in the prepaid data services that are common due to possible cost factors.

I have not seen anything definitive regarding the concurrent dual sim access to 5g on new iPhones. If you have any supporting information, it would be appreciated.

TGarza Feb 3, 2021 8:41 pm
Originally Posted by aww3583 (Post 32958838)
I've had my 12 for a couple of months and a couple of cheap wireless charging pads from Amazon (varying brands). No issues until last week when wireless charging didn't work on either charging pad until I restarted the phone. Happened twice, hasn't happened since. Could possibly be related to an iOS update?
Last night, my 12 would not work with a Qi charger. A restart resolved the Qi charging error. This indicates an iOS issue connecting to the Qi charger when the reboot resolves the problem. I have not seem any mention of magsafe charging problems. Supposedly Apple is aware of the problem and is working to resolve the Qi charging issue.

draver Feb 4, 2021 4:44 am
So is there consensus that Apple has a duty to work with non Apple chargers? Shouldn't it be the other way around?

I certainly remember when their products would not work reliably with non Apple charging cables a few years back. My desktop combo watch/Airpod/Qi phone charger pad gets hot if I charge my phone with a medium thick case on it, but stays room temp without the case. I don't blame Apple for that. Maybe your case is the issue.

TGarza Feb 4, 2021 8:55 am
Originally Posted by draver (Post 33015476)
So is there consensus that Apple has a duty to work with non Apple chargers? Shouldn't it be the other way around?

I certainly remember when their products would not work reliably with non Apple charging cables a few years back. My desktop combo watch/Airpod/Qi phone charger pad gets hot if I charge my phone with a medium thick case on it, but stays room temp without the case. I don't blame Apple for that. Maybe your case is the issue.
I don’t use a case with my iPhone when using a Qi charger. Performing a Windows like reboot resolves the problem. Apple specifically mentions the 12 product line works with Qi certified chargers. This is an issue for Apple to resolve because of their claim.

LordHamster Feb 4, 2021 2:33 pm
Originally Posted by TGarza (Post 33015019)
Last night, my 12 would not work with a Qi charger. A restart resolved the Qi charging error. This indicates an iOS issue connecting to the Qi charger when the reboot resolves the problem. I have not seem any mention of magsafe charging problems. Supposedly Apple is aware of the problem and is working to resolve the Qi charging issue.
I've had the same thing happen with the magsafe charger for my wife's phone. A reboot fixed the issue. I also saw someone mention this same thing happening over on Macrumors. So there is definitely some software issue causing problems with wireless charging at times.

That said... most of the issues I've seen with QI chargers were more related to the new dimensions of the iPhone 12 phones + a combination of "foreign object detection" on some chargers not liking the presence of the magnets in the phone. For me properly aligning my phone on QI chargers has always been my biggest headache with the technology, something nicely solved by Magsafe OEM chargers as well as all of the 3rd party magsafe compatible chargers flooding the market now.

TGarza Feb 4, 2021 3:46 pm
Originally Posted by LordHamster (Post 33016606)
I've had the same thing happen with the magsafe charger for my wife's phone. A reboot fixed the issue. I also saw someone mention this same thing happening over on Macrumors. So there is definitely some software issue causing problems with wireless charging at times.
That is strange the MagSafe requires a phone reboot to charge. My son used a Qi charger for several years with his iPhone 8 without charging problems. He is experiencing the reboot before wireless charging.

Waiting for the iPhone to become Windows like with a blue screen of death 🤣🤞

draver Feb 4, 2021 4:02 pm
I'm running iOS 14.5 Beta on my iPhone 12 Pro Max and have not had any problems or wireless charging glitches. But then I never had any with the wireless charger in my car or the desktop charger all the way back to my XR. I wonder what is the common link? I had been on 14.4 for a while without any issues.

exp Feb 4, 2021 7:39 pm
Actually 14.5 is suppose to enable dual 5G now.

DYKWIA Feb 5, 2021 4:18 am
Originally Posted by draver (Post 33016775)
I'm running iOS 14.5 Beta on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
My iPhone 12 Pro Max works fine on my QI charger. My sisters iPhone 12 Mini doesn't work on the same charger.

There is definitely an issue with at least some iPhones.

draver Feb 5, 2021 5:41 am
Originally Posted by DYKWIA (Post 33017572)
My iPhone 12 Pro Max works fine on my QI charger. My sisters iPhone 12 Mini doesn't work on the same charger.

There is definitely an issue with at least some iPhones.
Have you tested it with and without the case? I was very surprised how much of a difference the thin case made in my desktop Qi heating up while charging with a case. I'm not a big fan of wireless charging mostly because battery life is so good these days, but mine works fine, just slowly. BTW, there was an update yesterday to the iOS 14.5 Beta, nothing changed that I noticed though.

LordHamster Feb 5, 2021 5:45 am
Originally Posted by DYKWIA (Post 33017572)
My iPhone 12 Pro Max works fine on my QI charger. My sisters iPhone 12 Mini doesn't work on the same charger.

There is definitely an issue with at least some iPhones.
I don't know if your charger is a stand-type or a puck type, but I've seen lots of issues posted by people who use the stand type: I think the issue between the mini and the pro max are vastly different dimensions. Remember the Achilles heel of wireless charging is alignment of coils. Many cheaper QI chargers have one inductive coil... or MAAYBE 2. So with the much smaller phone, the coil on the phone and on the charger may be out of alignment enough to where it simply won't charge. Some people on macrumors have solved this by putting a little bit of foam or something at the bottom of their QI stand, which in turn raises the Mini to a more optimal height to achieve that alignment.

I know my previous pixel 4XL from google was also quite finicky with chargers and alignment. Even with my OEM "Pixel Stand" the darn phone would often refuse to charge and give me a message "realign phone for wireless charging." That is on the OEM stand for the OEM phone!!

IMO Magsafe and its knockoffs are a life-saver when it comes to QI. I always hated QI charging previously. I now have 4 Apple Magsafe chargers (one on each nightstand, and one in each car) and other than the one night my wife's phone needed a reboot they have been working perfectly!! Furthermore, I have two non-apple 3rd party charger with embedded magsafe compatible magnets, they have also been working brilliantly.

EkekoBWI Apr 11, 2021 2:57 pm
I traded in my eligible iPhone X for an iPhone 12 Pro in November as part of a $700 trade-in promotion. AT&T let me know today (3+ months after they received the phone) that I would be receiving $0 trade-in credit because my calling plan was erroneously never upgraded to an eligible plan for the $700 trade in promotion. Has anyone experienced this hiccup and successfully gotten their due rebate?

TGarza Apr 11, 2021 4:16 pm
Originally Posted by EkekoBWI (Post 33170014)
I traded in my eligible iPhone X for an iPhone 12 Pro in November as part of a $700 trade-in promotion. AT&T let me know today (3+ months after they received the phone) that I would be receiving $0 trade-in credit because my calling plan was erroneously never upgraded to an eligible plan for the $700 trade in promotion. Has anyone experienced this hiccup and successfully gotten their due rebate?
Yes, one of my lines from November received all the back credits for 5 months on the last bill. I had to call trade in support which couldn’t explain why the credits were never applied. They trade in rep told me to speak in person with the store in north Georgia but I live in north Texas. I don’t the hiccup which caused the delay but it was eventually resolved after 5 bill cycles. All my other lines received credits on the 2nd bill cycle.

EkekoBWI Apr 11, 2021 5:49 pm
Originally Posted by TGarza (Post 33170198)
Yes, one of my lines from November received all the back credits for 5 months on the last bill. I had to call trade in support which couldn’t explain why the credits were never applied. They trade in rep told me to speak in person with the store in north Georgia but I live in north Texas. I don’t the hiccup which caused the delay but it was eventually resolved after 5 bill cycles. All my other lines received credits on the 2nd bill cycle.
I tried AT&T customer service (45 minutes to get nowhere), but trade-in line could be a better bet.

Anyone have luck getting this resolved with an in-store rep?

TGarza Apr 11, 2021 7:19 pm
Originally Posted by EkekoBWI (Post 33170370)
I tried AT&T customer service (45 minutes to get nowhere), but trade-in line could be a better bet.

Anyone have luck getting this resolved with an in-store rep?
Let me know if you need the number for the trade in group. There are 2 parts to the trade in line with the first line transferring you to the other group. I spoke to be both groups.

The store rep can change the plan to the correct plan if that is the issue.

aww3583 Apr 12, 2021 8:42 am
Originally Posted by EkekoBWI (Post 33170370)
I tried AT&T customer service (45 minutes to get nowhere), but trade-in line could be a better bet.

Anyone have luck getting this resolved with an in-store rep?
We traded in our old phones and received new 12's back in November. We never received our credits. Each month, we'd use the chat feature (paper trail) and the agent would say "I see everything, the credits will come next month". Finally in March, a chat agent says "We never received your old phones, so you're responsible for the full price of the new phone." I shared with them the USPS tracking info saying the items were delivered. The chat agent pushed back saying "all that shows is a box was delivered, not the contents."

I went nuclear and filed a complaint with the FCC.

Within 24 hours, I received a call from a person from the "office of the president" of ATT. I know he's not really in the office of the president, but the customer care he extended to us was second to none. He picked up the phone each time I called and gave us daily updates until the issue was resolved.

Not only did the credits properly post on the next bill, we received a one-time statement credit in the amount of the missing credits as an additional service recovery.

Long story short... if you aren't getting anywhere, file with the FCC.

jfk747 Apr 12, 2021 2:28 pm
I tried out the iphone 12 but wasn't with 5g speeds nor camera or video. Maybe next the 13 wows me maybe not.

EkekoBWI Apr 12, 2021 5:46 pm
Originally Posted by aww3583 (Post 33171622)
We traded in our old phones and received new 12's back in November. We never received our credits. Each month, we'd use the chat feature (paper trail) and the agent would say "I see everything, the credits will come next month". Finally in March, a chat agent says "We never received your old phones, so you're responsible for the full price of the new phone." I shared with them the USPS tracking info saying the items were delivered. The chat agent pushed back saying "all that shows is a box was delivered, not the contents."

I went nuclear and filed a complaint with the FCC.

Within 24 hours, I received a call from a person from the "office of the president" of ATT. I know he's not really in the office of the president, but the customer care he extended to us was second to none. He picked up the phone each time I called and gave us daily updates until the issue was resolved.

Not only did the credits properly post on the next bill, we received a one-time statement credit in the amount of the missing credits as an additional service recovery.

Long story short... if you aren't getting anywhere, file with the FCC.
Wow, I didn't know that was a viable option. It might come to that, if my next call leads to another shrug from them.

aww3583 Apr 12, 2021 7:42 pm
Originally Posted by EkekoBWI (Post 33173019)
Wow, I didn't know that was a viable option. It might come to that, if my next call leads to another shrug from them.
The FCC’s website has a section specifically set up to receive these complaints. It’s the “nuclear option” but it works.

Need Apr 12, 2021 8:01 pm
For those who has T-Mobile, starting April 18, you can trade in iPhone 11 for free upgrade to iPhone 12.

https://www.t-mobile.com/news/un-car...des-the-iphone

You can also trade in any phone (including old flip phone) to free Samsung A32 5G.

pseudoswede Apr 12, 2021 10:25 pm
Miss Swede bought an iPhone 11 128GB in absolute pristine condition (including 100% battery health) for $515 back in November off Swappa. Is it worth it to upgrade to a 12? I probably would foot the extra $40 for the 128GB version.

Looks like the changes are pretty incremental--slightly better screen, slightly better camera hardware, and 5G radio. I guess the real question is whether T-Mobile would offer a free iPhone 13 (or whatever comes next) with iPhone 11 trade-in; or a free iPhone 14 with iPhone 12 trade-in.

anrkitec Apr 13, 2021 2:46 am
Originally Posted by pseudoswede (Post 33173521)
Miss Swede bought an iPhone 11 128GB in absolute pristine condition (including 100% battery health) for $515 back in November off Swappa. Is it worth it to upgrade to a 12? I probably would foot the extra $40 for the 128GB version.

Looks like the changes are pretty incremental--slightly better screen, slightly better camera hardware, and 5G radio. I guess the real question is whether T-Mobile would offer a free iPhone 13 (or whatever comes next) with iPhone 11 trade-in; or a free iPhone 14 with iPhone 12 trade-in.
I would wait for the 12S/13 at the end of the year.

My 12 Pro 256 is a great phone, and with ATTs $850 trade-in credit it was a no-brainer. But the 12S/13 [the Pro models at least, if not the entire range] is going to have a 120hz screen, under-glass touch ID, slightly better cameras, a faster processor, and a slightly bigger battery, and a smaller notch. All in the same package. Well worth waiting a few months for IMO.

TGarza Apr 13, 2021 5:16 am
Originally Posted by pseudoswede (Post 33173521)
Looks like the changes are pretty incremental--slightly better screen, slightly better camera hardware, and 5G radio. I guess the real question is whether T-Mobile would offer a free iPhone 13 (or whatever comes next) with iPhone 11 trade-in; or a free iPhone 14 with iPhone 12 trade-in.
There is no guarantee about future promotions and trade in. I traded in several iPhone 8’s for iPhone 12’s and paid for upgraded memory. I would wait before trading in the 11 to see if the fingerprint sensor is added back in the 13z

DeafFlyer Apr 13, 2021 5:47 am
If you trade for a 12 now, can you trade up for a 13 a few months later or is there some restriction on doing that?

Need Apr 13, 2021 8:23 am
Originally Posted by DeafFlyer (Post 33173958)
If you trade for a 12 now, can you trade up for a 13 a few months later or is there some restriction on doing that?
T-mobile trade in deal is usually 24 months credit. They charge you for the new phone total divided by 24 every month and then credit you back the same amount. You will be locked in for 24 months on that line. If you want to upgrade again, you will probably have to pay off the total for the existing phone first. So pretty much you only want to upgrade if you think you are going to keep the phone for 2 years. If you are going to upgrade before that, then your free upgrade is not totally free.

pseudoswede Apr 14, 2021 9:39 am
Originally Posted by Need (Post 33174250)
T-mobile trade in deal is usually 24 months credit. They charge you for the new phone total divided by 24 every month and then credit you back the same amount. You will be locked in for 24 months on that line. If you want to upgrade again, you will probably have to pay off the total for the existing phone first. So pretty much you only want to upgrade if you think you are going to keep the phone for 2 years. If you are going to upgrade before that, then your free upgrade is not totally free.
There is also some complex math involved with the trade-in...

$830 over 24 months = $35.48 per month
Let's say T-Mobile values your iPhone 11 trade in at $240
Once they accept your iPhone 11 trade-in as good, they immediately apply a $240 bill credit to your account
Then T-Mobile claws back that $240 over 24 months ($10/mo)
The bill shows up as you paying $10/mo for the phone with a $25.48 credit
Each month, $35.48 is deducted from the $830 balance for the next 24 months
Let's say after 12 months, you want to trade it in for the iPhone 12S/13/13S/13Z/14/whatever, you need to pay the remaining balance ($415), but you'll still receive the $25.48/mo bill credit for the remaining 12 months

Need Apr 14, 2021 9:50 am
Originally Posted by pseudoswede (Post 33177003)
There is also some complex math involved with the trade-in...

$830 over 24 months = $35.48 per month
Let's say T-Mobile values your iPhone 11 trade in at $240
Once they accept your iPhone 11 trade-in as good, they immediately apply a $240 bill credit to your account
Then T-Mobile claws back that $240 over 24 months ($10/mo)
The bill shows up as you paying $10/mo for the phone with a $25.48 credit
Each month, $35.48 is deducted from the $830 balance for the next 24 months
Let's say after 12 months, you want to trade it in for the iPhone 12S/13/13S/13Z/14/whatever, you need to pay the remaining balance ($415), but you'll still receive the $25.48/mo bill credit for the remaining 12 months
Really? I thought you would have to pay the remaining balance, but then you would stop receiving the remaining credits on the trade-in phone because you will be on a new 24 month credits on the new phone? If I only have to pay off the balance ahead of time but still get it back later, there is really no reason to not trade in iPhone 11 for 12.

pseudoswede Apr 14, 2021 1:49 pm
Originally Posted by Need (Post 33177029)
Really? I thought you would have to pay the remaining balance, but then you would stop receiving the remaining credits on the trade-in phone because you will be on a new 24 month credits on the new phone? If I only have to pay off the balance ahead of time but still get it back later, there is really no reason to not trade in iPhone 11 for 12.
Per T-Mobile's website...

You may have one Recurring Device Credits (RDC) promo per line at a time. To get a new Recurring Device Credits (RDC) promo and keep your current credit, you must pay off the existing EIP first.
  • If you pay off your EIP early, you’ll continue to receive the promised Recurring Device Credits (RDC) as an account-level credit through the remaining months of the promotional credit period (up to 24 or 36 months).
That said, I have heard stories about RDC not being moved to account-level (recurring) credits properly. You'll need to watch your account like a hawk for 2-3 billing cycles.

After discussing with a super-helpful T-Mobile agent, we're just going to wait until September and gamble there will be a similar trade-in promotion.

bocastephen Apr 18, 2021 8:44 pm
Are the newest iPhones (12 and newer) interchangeable on all networks, for example TMobile, Verizon and AT&T without ordering a specific carrier model?

exp Apr 18, 2021 9:30 pm
I believe so. I don't think CDMA has been a thing for awhile.

Also, this is the first 5G modem Apple has used so it doesn't include all the 5G bands which are coming in line.

Already, Qualcomm has announced newer modems with support for more bands.

If we were able to travel internationally, we might find that iPhone 12 and other current 5G phones sold in the US may not be as well supported overseas.


On Tuesday, Apple is expected to announce new iPad Pros with 5G options. But I believe they might use the same modem as the iPhone 12. So I'm thinking of waiting another year before buying a 5G iPad.

bocastephen Apr 18, 2021 10:58 pm
Originally Posted by exp (Post 33187715)
I believe so. I don't think CDMA has been a thing for awhile.

Also, this is the first 5G modem Apple has used so it doesn't include all the 5G bands which are coming in line.

Already, Qualcomm has announced newer modems with support for more bands.

If we were able to travel internationally, we might find that iPhone 12 and other current 5G phones sold in the US may not be as well supported overseas.


On Tuesday, Apple is expected to announce new iPad Pros with 5G options. But I believe they might use the same modem as the iPhone 12. So I'm thinking of waiting another year before buying a 5G iPad.
But without CDMA isn't much of Verizon's national footprint pretty much non-existent?

exp Apr 18, 2021 11:12 pm
I don't believe so, I think VZW has transitioned away from CDMA for a few years now. There may be areas where they don't have LTE coverage but can't be significant at this point.

TGarza Apr 19, 2021 4:19 am
Originally Posted by bocastephen (Post 33187840)
But without CDMA isn't much of Verizon's national footprint pretty much non-existent?
Sunset date for CDMA is 12/31/2022. Verizon stopped activating CDMA only devices in 2018.

https://www.fiercewireless.com/wirel...-for-3g-sunset

EkekoBWI Apr 25, 2021 4:49 pm
Originally Posted by aww3583 (Post 33173248)
The FCC’s website has a section specifically set up to receive these complaints. It’s the “nuclear option” but it works.
"Your request was successfully submitted." We'll see how it goes with the FCC, which I have to believe will be a lot more fruitful than being placed on hold for an hour by AT&T followed by false promises of a call back. Thanks again for the tip.

EkekoBWI May 8, 2021 1:23 pm
Originally Posted by EkekoBWI (Post 33205057)
"Your request was successfully submitted." We'll see how it goes with the FCC, which I have to believe will be a lot more fruitful than being placed on hold for an hour by AT&T followed by false promises of a call back. Thanks again for the tip.
Success: $700 credit applied this week to my account and no more back-and-forths. Wow, floored by the positive, fast outcome. Thanks, FT!

Need May 8, 2021 1:36 pm
T-Mobile Mother's Day Special 5/8 to 5/9 Only. Upgrade (no add a line needed) with eligible trade in with $830 off iPhone 12.

How to get this offer:
Have a qualifying line of service on an eligible plan.
Purchase a new iPhone 12, iPhone 12 Pro, iPhone 12 Pro Max, or iPhone 12 mini on a monthly payment plan and pay applicable sales tax on pre-credit price at time of purchase.

Trade in an eligible device in good condition:
Get up to $830 off:
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Google: Pixel 4a 5G, Pixel 4a, Pixel 4, Pixel 4 XL
LG: V50 ThinQ 5G, V60 ThinQ 5G
OnePlus: 7 Pro 5G, 7T, 7T Pro 5G Mclaren, 8 5G, 8 Pro
Motorola: razr
Other: Asus ROG Phone II

Get up to $530 off:
Apple: iPhone 7, iPhone 7 Plus, iPhone SE 2

Get up to $380 off:
Apple: iPhone 6S, iPhone 6S Plus, iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus
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Google: Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL, Pixel 3, Pixel 3 XL, Pixel 3a, Pixel 3a XL
LG: G7 ThinQ series, G8 ThinQ series, K51, Stylo 6, V35 ThinQ, V40 ThinQ
OnePlus: 5, 5T, 6, 6T, 7 Pro
Motorola: Moto Z4
Other: Huawei P20 Lite, Kyocera DuraForce PRO 2, Razr Phone, Razr 2, RED Hydrogen One

4. Get up to $830 back via 24 monthly bill credits for the iPhone 12, iPhone 12 Pro, or iPhone 12 Pro Max, or up to $730 back via 24 monthly bill credits for the iPhone 12

TGarza May 8, 2021 8:19 pm
Originally Posted by EkekoBWI (Post 33236499)
Success: $700 credit applied this week to my account and no more back-and-forths. Wow, floored by the positive, fast outcome. Thanks, FT!
AT&T incorrectly applied the missing credits after I received a similar text as one time $700 credit per line on my most recent bill.

aww3583 May 10, 2021 8:43 am
Originally Posted by EkekoBWI (Post 33236499)
Success: $700 credit applied this week to my account and no more back-and-forths. Wow, floored by the positive, fast outcome. Thanks, FT!
Keep an eye on your bill. My monthly credits "dropped off" randomly. I fired off another FCC complaint. Responded within 72 hours with another service recovery credit, a phone call with an apology and an explanation, and a promise that the credits will be correctly applied (again) going forward.

Only way to get their attention is the nuclear option, unfortunately.

anrkitec May 10, 2021 11:53 am
Originally Posted by aww3583 (Post 33240347)
Keep an eye on your bill. My monthly credits "dropped off" randomly.
As did mine with this last bill. And it wasn't just some glitch or clerical mistake,

I got a text from AT&T just before the e-bill arrived saying, "As you have recently made a change to you plan, your bill will be increasing by $30/month going forward".

Went to an ATT corporate-owned store and they told me they couldn't do anything, that I had to call the customer service line.

It took me two hours to get through on the phone and the response I got was, "Thanks for the information. Your claim has now been filed and the information will be sent to our research department and they will text you their decision within the next month. If they find in your favor it will take two billing cycles for the credits to apply back to your account. Until then, you will have to pay the extra $30/month until the discrepancy is resolved."

I never yell or even raise my voice with CS people, whether on the phone or IRL. And while I wasn't personal or in any way threatening, my response to the above would have made Quentin Tarantino blush.

I've been getting the credit for seven months now. How did this become "my" problem? What "research" needs to be done? What do you mean "if" they find in my favor?

[serenity now, serenity now]

I eventually got a $30 credit applied immediately to my account for this month, but this sounds like a borderline scam as they already have my iPhone 8. What happens if, seven months on, they try to claim they have no record of it? This stinks to high heaven.

EkekoBWI May 15, 2021 12:20 am
Thanks for the tip about the credit falling off. All good so far, but I'll keep an eye on it monthly.


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