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Originally Posted by deniah
(Post 32772318)
No. Good riddance. I switched to bluetooth headphones years ago and never looked back. Hate the cord entanglement, getting in the way of stuff, microphonics, etc. All the modern wireless headphones have battery life longer than the playing the device (phone). So if you can charge the phone on the flight, you can charge the headphone (which also charge much faster due to lower capacity).
But, if you want, you can also buy a data to 3.5mm dongle In-flight or not, there are times when I still use a wired headphone, and I do so at times even when I have the Airpods Pro along too. Carrying around one cable for charging and a separate dongle to connect a wired headset is less convenient in a way than when no dongles were required to use the iPhones with a wired headset. |
Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 32774100)
Speaking of using headsets on flights, do any scheduled common carrier flights have Bluetooth connectivity for the airline in-flight entertainment system audio ports? Having to take along the AirFly type of adapters to use Bluetooth headsets in flight is an inconvenience of its own too.
In-flight or not, there are times when I still use a wired headphone, and I do so at times even when I have the Airpods Pro along too. Carrying around one cable for charging and a separate dongle to connect a wired headset is less convenient in a way than when no dongles were required to use the iPhones with a wired headset. * charging cable for smartphone * permanent cable for headphone With a wireless headphone and phone w/o mini jack you'd have: * charging cable for smartphone (same USB-C as headphone and laptop... add +1 Lightning for iPhone) * optional cable for headphone, w/ inline adapter The adapter is slim and inline, so you can keep it permanently attached to the cable. I used to bring it w/ airline adapter to plug into the seat, but I'm happy using the provided headphone. Between interaction with the crew for service, talking with my partner, eating and snacking, watching a movie onboard isn't quite the immersive experience that requires a better headset than whatever Bose-branded stuff they hand onboard. More than that, I tend to watch my own content on my phone and laptop.... basically I never brought headphone cable along with me again. |
Hm, my B&W PX7 has usb-c, my iphone 7 has ligthning and my MacBookAir has MagSafe2. Not much synergy, but I won't splash out several k just to have 1 or 2 dimeadozen cable less. (and my Sony DAP has WM port :D)
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Who will be the first to bite the bullet and remove all ports from their phone? Apple were late to the party with wireless charging, but now seem to be pushing it. Maybe the iPhone 13 will be QI only? :)
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Originally Posted by DYKWIA
(Post 32775593)
Who will be the first to bite the bullet and remove all ports from their phone? Apple were late to the party with wireless charging, but now seem to be pushing it. Maybe the iPhone 13 will be QI only? :)
I would not want to have to use less efficient wireless charging, all just for esthetic reasons and also to help them cut costs. Unless they're including wireless chargers, I am not interested in having to buy a wireless charger. |
Originally Posted by DYKWIA
(Post 32775593)
Who will be the first to bite the bullet and remove all ports from their phone? Apple were late to the party with wireless charging, but now seem to be pushing it. Maybe the iPhone 13 will be QI only? :)
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Well I bit the bullet tonight. Ordered a 12 for pickup at Apple tomorrow. Will send in an 8 for the $800 in credits. Gift for son’s 18th birthday. I don’t even mind being locked into ATT for 30 months for his line. We’ve had that account for 20 years (With Cingular before the merge), not going to change now. And have extra iPhones for international sims when needed. He has NO idea and is going to be blown away. I’m excited to give it to him.
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Originally Posted by DYKWIA
(Post 32775593)
Who will be the first to bite the bullet and remove all ports from their phone? Apple were late to the party with wireless charging, but now seem to be pushing it. Maybe the iPhone 13 will be QI only? :)
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Originally Posted by Stgermainparis
(Post 32790983)
Well I bit the bullet tonight. Ordered a 12 for pickup at Apple tomorrow. Will send in an 8 for the $800 in credits. Gift for son’s 18th birthday. I don’t even mind being locked into ATT for 30 months for his line. We’ve had that account for 20 years (With Cingular before the merge), not going to change now. And have extra iPhones for international sims when needed. He has NO idea and is going to be blown away. I’m excited to give it to him.
They gave you $800 in credits for an 8? |
Originally Posted by exp
(Post 32791088)
They gave you $800 in credits for an 8?
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Originally Posted by Need
(Post 32791165)
For AT&T I think. Website said $700 credit for iPhone 8... not $800 though.
For a 6s, 6s+, 7, and 7+ it's $350. For an 8 or newer it's $800.
Originally Posted by exp
(Post 32791088)
They gave you $800 in credits for an 8?
If you get the $799 iPhone 12 64 GB, then you will see no changes to your bill and at the end of the 30 month contract you own the phone free and clear. If you get the $1100 12 Pro 256 for example, they substract the $800 from $1100, leaving a balance of $300, which they divide by 30, leaving you with an increase of $10/month on your bill for the next 30 months - the length of the contract. |
Originally Posted by anrkitec
(Post 32791379)
Also, if you want a new phone before the 30 months are up, you can't buy out your contract early by paying the difference between the $800 credit and the cost of the phone. But you can buy the phone outright. If you have had the phone for say 10 months, and have been paying an extra $10/month for the phone on your bill as per the example above, then you would subtract the $100 you have paid from the $1100 cost of the phone, leaving you still owing AT&T $1000 for the phone, which you would have to pay to them up front in cash in order to end your contract. But then you would own your phone outright, could then sell it to get a new phone, and AT&T would continue giving you a $35/month credit on your bill [$700/20] for the next 20 months.
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Originally Posted by Need
(Post 32791165)
For AT&T I think. Website said $700 credit for iPhone 8... not $800 though.
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Originally Posted by Need
(Post 32791165)
For AT&T I think. Website said $700 credit for iPhone 8... not $800 though.
On the Apple website, the first tab to display on screen for the AT&T trade in is the iPhone 12 mini offer which is $700. Click the iPhone 12 tab for the $800 trade in offer. I have 2 iPhone 12 minis reserved with the $700 credit for each phone. |
Originally Posted by anrkitec
(Post 32791379)
It's a two-tiered flat rate.
For a 6s, 6s+, 7, and 7+ it's $350. For an 8 or newer it's $800. Yes, for an iPhone 8 or newer in good condition [powers up, no cracks, etc.] it's $800. But you have to agree to a 30-month contract and the $800 is paid out as either 30 monthly debits or 30 monthly credits to your bill, depending on which new phone you get. If you get the $799 iPhone 12 64 GB, then you will see no changes to your bill and at the end of the 30 month contract you own the phone free and clear. If you get the $1100 12 Pro 256 for example, they substract the $800 from $1100, leaving a balance of $300, which they divide by 30, leaving you with an increase of $10/month on your bill for the next 30 months - the length of the contract. Also, if you want a new phone before the 30 months are up, you can't buy out your contract early by paying the difference between the $800 credit and the cost of the phone. But you can buy the phone outright. If you have had the phone for say 10 months, and have been paying an extra $10/month for the phone on your bill as per the example above, then you would subtract the $100 you have paid from the $1100 cost of the phone, leaving you still owing AT&T $1000 for the phone, which you would have to pay to them up front in cash in order to end your contract. But then you would own your phone outright, could then sell it to get a new phone, and AT&T would continue giving you a $35/month credit on your bill [$700/20] for the next 20 months. Instead of contracts ATT is using monthly discounts to either 1) get you to stay the full term, or 2) not get full value of the trade if you leave or get a new phone early. |
Originally Posted by z28lt1
(Post 32792241)
Just to clarify, there is no actual contract with this ATT deal.
contract - kon-trakt - noun (i) an agreement between two or more parties for the doing or not doing of something specified.
Originally Posted by TGarza
(Post 32791565)
Paying off the phone early ends the monthly credit from AT&T which is in the details of the trade in agreement when I returned my iPhone 8 for the $800 credit.
So as to not possibly confuse anyone with incorrect information, I will edit that part of my post. |
Originally Posted by TGarza
(Post 32791837)
AT&T $800 trade in for the iPhone 8 ends 11/5. Starting 11/6, the trade in drops to $700 when the 12 mini and 12 pro Max launch.
On the Apple website, the first tab to display on screen for the AT&T trade in is the iPhone 12 mini offer which is $700. Click the iPhone 12 tab for the $800 trade in offer. I have 2 iPhone 12 minis reserved with the $700 credit for each phone. |
If you buy the phone from Apple (apple.com or Apple store app or Apple Store) the only locked option is if you Choose AT&T as your carrier and pay with an AT&T installment plan. All other options from Apple are unlocked.
-David |
Originally Posted by Stgermainparis
(Post 32792856)
Do you know if the lower trade in to ATT for $350 credit ends 11/6? Was going to do this for spouse for Xmas and don’t really want to deal with it right now.
https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-iphone/iphone-12 |
Just did the $800 credit for our iPhone8 and iPhone XS to upgrade to the iPhone 12's through AT&T.
Fine print says that only customers with unlimited data plans are eligible for the program. We were on an old 20GB plan and were able to upgrade to the unlimited plan at a lower cost. Big win for us. |
Originally Posted by aww3583
(Post 32795261)
Just did the $800 credit for our iPhone8 and iPhone XS to upgrade to the iPhone 12's through AT&T.
Fine print says that only customers with unlimited data plans are eligible for the program. We were on an old 20GB plan and were able to upgrade to the unlimited plan at a lower cost. Big win for us. |
Originally Posted by DYKWIA
(Post 32775593)
Who will be the first to bite the bullet and remove all ports from their phone? Apple were late to the party with wireless charging, but now seem to be pushing it. Maybe the iPhone 13 will be QI only? :)
I'd pay extra for a portless phone. IMO the port on the iPhone is currently the single biggest security liability. https://www.businessinsider.com/poli...phones-2020-10 |
Originally Posted by LordHamster
(Post 32807233)
Unpopular Opinion:
I'd pay extra for a portless phone. IMO the port on the iPhone is currently the single biggest security liability. https://www.businessinsider.com/poli...phones-2020-10 Then they'd hack through bluetooth or some wireless protocol. |
Originally Posted by exp
(Post 32808468)
Then they'd hack through bluetooth or some wireless protocol.
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As most of the listed software is tens of thousands of dollars, one only supports up the the iPhone 7, another the iPhone X, and
The FBI paid under $1 million for the technique used to unlock the iPhone used by one of the San Bernardino shooters - a figure smaller than the $1.3 million the agency’s chief initially indicated the hack cost, |
Originally Posted by CPRich
(Post 32813899)
As most of the listed software is tens of thousands of dollars, one only supports up the the iPhone 7, another the iPhone X, and
where are these $10 hacks coming from? https://www.businessinsider.com/poli...20new%20report. The tools are sold by firms including Grayshift, Cellebrite, and AccessData. Police spend anywhere from $9,000 to more than $20,000 to buy and license the tools, according to records published by Upturn. Phones that are more difficult to break into — like the newest iPhone models — can be shipped to companies like Cellebrite, which charges from thousands of dollars to unlock a single phone. |
3 weeks +1 day for the returned iPhone 8 to be left at USPS and processed by AT&T. “It's in good working condition, so there's nothing else to do! We appreciate your business.” Newgestics picks up the phones for AT&T.
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Originally Posted by draver
(Post 32770104)
That's certainly a lot less that I would have guessed from what I've heard and seen listed.
Another reason iPhone upgrades are a thing for me is the resale of last years model is generally quite high. If I postpone my upgrade, that diminishes of course. My 11 Pro Max 256Gb should net me around $700 or so, and I get a Vet discount from Apple. My new 12 Pro Max 256Gb will cost $1079 & $12 for an Amazon case. I like the idea of having a fresh battery, and the latest hardware. It's one of my many vices. Also, I don't want to be the richest person in the graveyard! |
The resale for Teslas will probably not be that great as newer battery and fuel tech emerges. They are quite common here but I like SUVs and only drive about 5K miles a year, so there is no savings on fuel compared to the purchase price premium. I'm waiting for better batteries or perhaps hydrogen fuel for cars. (If I live that long!)
I have only had two iPhones fail in any way, buying two per year for 10 years and both were replaced by Apple in a matter of minutes at the Apple Store. They have about the best customer support I have ever experienced. |
I will get the iphone 13 as the jump in tech and 5g will most likely be an improvement to 4g the 120 mhz refresh with upgraded camera and rumored 128 gb - 1 tb storage. Regarding tesla or any electric for that matter I think most folks want a suitable range and a superior build quality at the same price or less than fuel with tires tha tlast 50k -80k or so with independent repair shops to fix the cars when things go wrong .
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Originally Posted by jfk747
(Post 32914313)
I will get the iphone 13 as the jump in tech and 5g will most likely be an improvement to 4g the 120 mhz refresh with upgraded camera and rumored 128 gb - 1 tb storage.
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Really miss the thumbprint sensor...its really the only thing I miss going from the 8 to the 12.
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Originally Posted by pointcomplex
(Post 32932427)
Really miss the thumbprint sensor...its really the only thing I miss going from the 8 to the 12.
I think they also need to try to put the cameras under the screen so that they can get rid of the notch. |
Originally Posted by pointcomplex
(Post 32932427)
Really miss the thumbprint sensor...its really the only thing I miss going from the 8 to the 12.
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Originally Posted by exp
(Post 32932468)
There are rumors that they're working on under the screen sensors for fingerprints.
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 32932906)
I have a general dislike of the FaceID thing, but I find it useful for one purpose: if I happen to be using a phone mounted on a bike handlebar on a day where I'm not using sunglasses. Other than that I'd prefer to have the fingerprint sensor, if it comes to choosing between biometric features to unlock the phones.
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Originally Posted by draver
(Post 32933604)
All of my iPhones that have had FaceID have worked normally with or without sunglasses. If that is an issue for yours, I suggest resetting it and then test for function. I also always wear polarized lens glasses, which do not seem to interfere with the sensing.
The FaceID problem I encounter comes when using some iridium-coated lenses on sunglasses I use while biking at times. Tipping my head back while trying to give the camera a peak below the frames sometimes works but it's just not reliable enough that way to be convenient. So on some days where I'm biking I go out with one of the fingerprint-using phones instead of the FaceID ones, and that's because of the sunglasses. |
It really would have been helpful if Apple had released an IOS update for FaceID months ago that allowed you to create multiples "faces" that would be authorized to your account provided a certain % of the face was the same as the master image - so unlocking with a mask, sunglasses, or other obstructions would be easy.
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
(Post 32934622)
It really would have been helpful if Apple had released an IOS update for FaceID months ago that allowed you to create multiples "faces" that would be authorized to your account provided a certain % of the face was the same as the master image - so unlocking with a mask, sunglasses, or other obstructions would be easy.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...4271b5697e.jpg |
Originally Posted by bocastephen
(Post 32934622)
It really would have been helpful if Apple had released an IOS update for FaceID months ago that allowed you to create multiples "faces" that would be authorized to your account provided a certain % of the face was the same as the master image - so unlocking with a mask, sunglasses, or other obstructions would be easy.
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